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bigniggy
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11. January 2004 @ 17:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I USED to use dvd x copy but it just suddenly stopped working. I just get teh same error everytime. What is the easiest way to backup my dvd movies, what program??

Thanks.
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Bodene
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12. January 2004 @ 13:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Download DVD Shrink 3.1.1

It's free and fairly easy to use.

Had you done ANY type of search in the Newbie forum you'd have seen what most folks use.

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14. January 2004 @ 13:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
1. DVD Decrypter

2. IFO Edit

3. Pinnacle Instant Copy CD/DVD

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14. January 2004 @ 13:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
1. DVD Decrypter
2. DVD2One
3. Nero 6 Ultra


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14. January 2004 @ 15:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
DVD Decrypter/DVD Shrink

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14. January 2004 @ 16:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I use DVD Decryptor, DVD2One and CopytoDVD. Works fine for me.
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14. January 2004 @ 19:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey, since u hav dvd x copy, i suggest u upgradin it to dvd x copy express. its free. dvd x copy express is very easy to use. and it copy the whole movie and menus to 1 dvd.

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14. January 2004 @ 20:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If your used to using xcopy I'd say use DVD Shrink, an excelent free program with many features, with the newest versions if you have Nero installed shrink can burn the dvd's for you, I have tried a few choice dvds that DVD2One and even IFOEdit messed up(the IFOEdit part was probably my fault) but shrink backed up the disc in style.

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jvillar
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15. January 2004 @ 07:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
DVD Shrink. Easy to use and it's FREE. Then burn with Nero.

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23. January 2004 @ 23:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
DVD Decrypter v3.1.9.0
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Pinnacle Instant Copy 8

I haven't found a better combination for burning only the movie (without all the extra trash) almost any DVD-R.
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26. January 2004 @ 16:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
1) DVD Shrink 3.14 (encode dvd movie)
2) DVD Shrink 3.14 (burn movie)
3) DVD Shrink 3.14 is FREE

If dvd movie is less than 4.7 gig(or less) I use DVD Decrypter and run iso mode>extract>burn iso.

Shoey :)

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26. January 2004 @ 20:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't think there's a single best program. Personally, I use a specific program depending on the situation. For movie only,
1)For movies under 10% compression, I just use Dvd xcopy xpress - very fast, 7-15 minutes to rip/compress, Nero to burn - 23 minutes. Xcopy warning easily bypassed using IFOEdit.
2)For movies with 11 to 20 percent compression approx, I rip entire dvd with DVD Decrypter, use DVD Shrink to reauthor, strip extras, extra soundtracks, still frame the end credits, no compression on the video, save to hard drive, compress with DVD2One, burn with Nero. (I use DVD2One here because Shrink always undercompresses on my computer!)
3)For movies with 21-40% compression approx, I'll use method 2) above except compress and burn with Pinnacle Instant copy for better quality compression. Also, with Instant copy 8 being able to do movie only, you can go straight from decryptor rip to IC compress, bypassing Shrink reauthor if you don't want to bother with end credits/still frame.
4)Over 40% compression or approching 3 hours, I'll just split to two discs using DVD Shrink.
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27. January 2004 @ 03:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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I don't think there's a single best program.
You're 100% correct m8! Although there are the "most recommended" programs for dvd backups (VCD, SVCD, DVD+r(W).

Most recommended DVD Rippers:
DVD Decrypter
SmartRipper
Most recommended encoders to backup dvd to VCD& SVCD.
CCE (Cinema Craft Encoder
Canopus ProCoder
TMPGEnc
Most recommended programs to backup DVD to DVD+R(W) if over 4.7 gig
DVD Shrink
DVD2One
Most recommended programs to burn your dvd movie backups to DVD+R(W)
Nero Burning ROM
DVD Shrink 3.14 (free)
burnatonce 0.99b (free)
DeepBurner (free)
CloneDVD
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I'm sure I've left out some great programs like TMPGEnc DVD Author, many others.

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27. January 2004 @ 13:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey Shoey, long time mate.

Anyway, i recommend using Shrink for just about anything. it has all the features needed, its free and im never wrong lol ;-)

pwav
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27. January 2004 @ 13:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
When compressing the movie to fit in DVD-R 4.7 Gig when the movie exceeds 4.4 Gigs the image quality is of importance.

I use Pinnacle Instant Copy CD/DVD and compression quality is very good. However, compression is awfully slow.

I tried DVD2One and it is much faster and good image quality compression.
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27. January 2004 @ 14:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey people

why dont you just use CloneDVD and AnyDVD..... yes yes yes some of us are more hands on instead of a little click and youre done..... i admit that fact but dont sum of u just prefer to sit back and let it do the job (occasionally, of course) i used to use DVDShrink, DVD xcopy both express and platinum (DVD Xcopy Express & platinum are really crap btw) and a whole other bunch but i tell you what i am using both CloneCD (alcoholer, clonyxxL) and cloneDVD and they havent let me down.... for a 7 gig dvd with cloneDVD over all it take me half an hour (about 33 mins to be precise) to back up the movie and the menus (dont bother with special features tho.... who dus?)

why make it hard on yaself ;-)

as rainier rightly said there is no single best program but this is what works for me, try a few things an see what suits you

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27. January 2004 @ 19:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm the lazy type. Direct, with AnyDVD to InstantCopy 8, Movie Only. Reader and burner on same channel.
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28. January 2004 @ 01:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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I tried DVD2One and it is much faster and good image quality compression.
I've tested DVD2One vs. DVD Shrink 3.14 and the "encoding" time= equal and the dvd movie video playback is equal. DVD Shrink is FREE, DVD2One isn't!

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jonnydoe.
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28. January 2004 @ 05:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah thumbs up on DVD Shrink and Nero to burn in UDF mode, usually at half max disc speed just to be safe..

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28. January 2004 @ 15:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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I've tested DVD2One vs. DVD Shrink 3.14 and the "encoding" time= equal and the dvd movie video playback is equal. DVD Shrink is FREE, DVD2One isn't!
Well let me stir the pot a little. InstantCopy 8 "encoding" time, longer. Video quality compared to Shrink and DVD2One, Better. Sometimes it's worth a few bucks for Better.
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28. January 2004 @ 15:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So you're going to persuade me that your test results with InstantDVD 8 has better video quality play back "viewable with the naked eye"? Thanks for stirring up the pot a little but somwhow I'm not convinced.... I'll stick with DVD Shrink <free

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28. January 2004 @ 16:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you really want the quality you all sem to desire, maybe a de-interlacer/scaler would suit your needs better than ways of re-coding.

I personally believe that without a doubt DVD Shrink is the best possible software set-up for backing up DVD Movies. Think about it. Its results are equal to most compression tools avaliable, if not better. It is FREE. That being a very big factor. How many of us would wish to pay $99 for a piece of software that does the same thing, no names mentioned? Ok, i warrant that re-coding is a formidable onponent, but who really has 8 hours to wait for a DVD. A back-up an average of 3-5 every day or two. Where am i going to ahve the time to sit and wait for recoding.

Weigh up the options, DVD Shrink makes sense

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29. January 2004 @ 04:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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So you're going to persuade me that your test results with InstantDVD 8 has better video quality play back "viewable with the naked eye"?
No I don't think I'd be able to convince you :) In earlier tests, with previous versions of competing software the thing about IC8 was no blockiness/pixilation, which to me was always the major shortcoming of most of the shrinkers out there. I don't mind a little softening of the video as I grew up on film and it is still my first love. The ultra crisp look of digital video shot movies (ala that anti-film moron George Lucas) is best left for soap operas and live sporting events.

IC8 at $39 (download price) is not a bad deal and it's 'Movie Only' mode is a quick, easy solution. For the kids DVD's I usually do the the whole thing (they like playing with the menus) set at 'Automatic' and am always surpised how good they look even when dropped below 60% (no blockiness, just a softening).

As was noted there are many programs that do a fine job and each has it's strengths and will appeal to people for certain reasons. I've used DVD Shrink (the newest version is very nice) and Nero's Recode 2 which also does a great job (which I guess is essential free if you've purchased Nero as your general burning app).

Yes IC8 is slow, but I only do a couple of DVD's a week (hell I still use 2X RitekG03's and love 'em). If it plays nice on your system it is an extremely easy way to get great video quality, especially for the 'Movie Only' crowd (no extra re-authoring steps) and if you want the menus with the movie it does that well also. I recently picked up AnyDVD and now do direct, one click, reader to burner backups. So easy. The steps and time saved fiddling around is well worth the few bucks I spent on the programs. To sum it up, for me it fits my needs and quality requirements. Yor mileage may vary ;)
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29. January 2004 @ 06:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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The ultra crisp look of digital video shot movies (ala that anti-film moron George Lucas) is best left for soap operas and live sporting events.
I know what u mean by that and agree to a certain extent.

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29. January 2004 @ 07:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm with MysticE all the way. Pinnacle instantcopy is the best for image quality. Who cares if it takes longer, it's the results that are important.
 
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