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27. April 2008 @ 15:07 |
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ok. well have you worked on proving your oc yet. in my last post i have a link to download cpuz and instructions on how to validate.
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27. April 2008 @ 15:16 |
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heres my 5000+ file:///C:/Users/DAYWIN!!!/Documents/cpuz.htm also i just realiazed my memory, it says 400mhz, when its 800, is it a vista thing?
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27. April 2008 @ 15:21 |
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lol woops hold on a sec......i can only post twice every 3 mins.
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27. April 2008 @ 15:25 |
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27. April 2008 @ 15:29 |
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n/m about the memory lol, i forgot about it being dual channel
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27. April 2008 @ 16:28 |
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ddr2= double data rate. you multiply 400 by 2 and you get 800. in your validation it said 390, so that is ddr2 780. i thought you said you had a 6400 be oc to 4.2ghz. you posted a 5000 be. post a validation for the 6400.
GAMING COMPUTER - Intel q9550 @ 3.4ghz | EVGA GTX 260 core 216 | Gigabyte ds3l | 6gb Gskill DDR2 800 ram | Silverstone 700 watt psu | WD 640gb hdd | Seagate 300gb hdd | LG dvd burner | Samsung dvd burner | Antec p182 case | logitech 2.1 speakers | logitech g11 keyboard | Samsung 25.5in 1900x1200 monitor | 19in 1440x900 secondary monitor | Windows 7 64bit | SERVER - Gigabyte 785g motherboard | AMD Phenom 9650 | 6gb ram | three 1.5tb hdd | Seagate 1tb hdd | WD 750gb hdd | two 300gb hdd | Maxtor 200gb hdd | Ark rackmount case | CentOS 5.5
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27. April 2008 @ 16:31 |
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Miyavi: Because newegg knows all? Give me a break they give a product 5 stars just because newegg shipped it a day early.
The cheapest core 2 duo is faster than a midrange AMD before you overclock it.
We all know you're talking out of your backside, give it a rest.
I take pride in the fact that I recommend people good products, and if someone goes around telling people that for gaming you should have an AMD CPU, that's all my hard work undone as people will start buying these underperforming wastes of cash again. For a rock bottom couple of hundred dollar build AMD have got some decent value stuff, but going for a Black edition CPU is ludicrous when you consider how many miles better the competition is.
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27. April 2008 @ 16:35 |
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awww man lol, i see what happened Im using a BE Vista ultimate, and i usualy dont use cpu z and i just oc in my bios and then check my properties, lol, and gues what it still say 4.3, but it is incorrect, lol vista just broke my heart, lmao awww man i feel like an idiot, well im sorry guys! I dont mean to argue amd vs intel its just, i dont know amd is my fav maybe its to be different, they have just always worked, I may be a new member but i have been going here for advice for several years now and I fully respect your advice! I agree its not the best, but i may have screwed up on the price range, hdd-89, cpu-89, case-59, video card-220, memory-90, fan 30 so around 700 not 900 lol theres a difference. Again guys Im sorry. I dont really like my 6400 i like the 5000 BE a lot better! It plays everything including crysis and assasins creed very well. There is no lag on AC or Black Site. I dont know why I dont like intels, but they seem to be doing good these days, I will check out the phenoms next year when they become stable! Thanks guys
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27. April 2008 @ 16:41 |
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always use cpuz to check your overclock. windows must be stupid because when you change the multi it still thinks it was the original. my e2200 with an 11x multi overclocked to 3.2 400x8. windows and core temp reported it at 400x11 for 4.4ghz.
GAMING COMPUTER - Intel q9550 @ 3.4ghz | EVGA GTX 260 core 216 | Gigabyte ds3l | 6gb Gskill DDR2 800 ram | Silverstone 700 watt psu | WD 640gb hdd | Seagate 300gb hdd | LG dvd burner | Samsung dvd burner | Antec p182 case | logitech 2.1 speakers | logitech g11 keyboard | Samsung 25.5in 1900x1200 monitor | 19in 1440x900 secondary monitor | Windows 7 64bit | SERVER - Gigabyte 785g motherboard | AMD Phenom 9650 | 6gb ram | three 1.5tb hdd | Seagate 1tb hdd | WD 750gb hdd | two 300gb hdd | Maxtor 200gb hdd | Ark rackmount case | CentOS 5.5
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27. April 2008 @ 16:42 |
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Ah well, that's not really Vista's fault, if you change your multiplier that's what happens, could happen with any OS. It's not something that's fooled me, but it is something I've spotted in the past.
I've never had any problems with AMD chips either, and I got a lot of good use out of them (heck, I'm still using one of them in my server). The fact of the matter is though, when you're buying a new CPU right now, there's no logic to buying an AMD, there really isn't.
As for Assassins Creed, your 6400+ is going to be significantly faster than his skt939 4200+, so will probably overcome the performance problems with the game. Nonetheless, for the same price I can buy a 6400+ Black Edition I can buy a Core 2 QUAD Q6600, and have £10 change. I'll even get a cooler too, albeit not a very good one.
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27. April 2008 @ 16:45 |
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I am not undoing your advice at all, Im just an AMD guy theres few of us but we will never change, and Intel has not always been the best....look at all the great amd cpus i mean look at the old T-bird great cpu! All I'm saying is that it is a good cpu for the price especially the 5000, As in for the price of 89 bucks(cpu) you can play assasins great with DX10 wonderfully, and it doesnt do so bad on Crysis either ( nothing out there runs that perfect not even the dual 6gig cpu that skull did) All im saying is it does what it was built to do and it will do it for I would say 3-4 years.....maybe less who knows...It plays games well and encodes even better. After all thats the main reason I built this one, to encode, and amd has that atleast. I apologize for putting your intel down, they're good.
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27. April 2008 @ 16:48 |
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Intel CPUs did indeed used to be awful, and I used to make this same argument but with the roles reversed. Trouble is, all fanboyism does is lead to disappointment, I found that out the hard way with ATI. You have to keep your options open in an industry that moves so fast.
As for the $90 CPU, all I can say is look at the E2200. That's a superb CPU and overclocks superbly, which the 5000+ needless to say doesn't.
Oh and by the way, I get the same score in Crysis with a 3.15Ghz Duo as someone does with a 3.7Ghz Quad using the same graphics setup. It's not the CPU you need for Crysis (well, not beyond a certain point anyway) it's the graphics.
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27. April 2008 @ 16:49 |
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They do give it a good rating for shipping, but there are some good reviews too. Anyways where do you get your products from, on new that cpu is 220.00 us currency.
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27. April 2008 @ 16:50 |
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27. April 2008 @ 16:54 |
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not that this matter but the E2200 gets a 5.1 on vista and the 5000+ gets a 5.3, but its a good price I'll give it that, just not as good, even though it may overclock better, again wow that is a good deal!!!
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27. April 2008 @ 16:56 |
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i will get a 5.9 when oc'd to 3.2. no one leaves those cpus at stock.
GAMING COMPUTER - Intel q9550 @ 3.4ghz | EVGA GTX 260 core 216 | Gigabyte ds3l | 6gb Gskill DDR2 800 ram | Silverstone 700 watt psu | WD 640gb hdd | Seagate 300gb hdd | LG dvd burner | Samsung dvd burner | Antec p182 case | logitech 2.1 speakers | logitech g11 keyboard | Samsung 25.5in 1900x1200 monitor | 19in 1440x900 secondary monitor | Windows 7 64bit | SERVER - Gigabyte 785g motherboard | AMD Phenom 9650 | 6gb ram | three 1.5tb hdd | Seagate 1tb hdd | WD 750gb hdd | two 300gb hdd | Maxtor 200gb hdd | Ark rackmount case | CentOS 5.5
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27. April 2008 @ 16:57 |
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The E2200 is more a rival to the 4600+ at stock, but it shines when overclocked. It starts at 2.0Ghz versus the 5000+'s 2.6Ghz, but will overclock to 3.2Ghz with no problem on a cheap cooler. You'd be hard pressed to get the 5000+ to much above 3Ghz.
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27. April 2008 @ 17:02 |
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I was talking about the quad on your last post, you were comparing it to the 6400 price, sorry about that I meant to add that in. Oh and I know what your saying about ATI, but its also the guys who put them together like msi, gigabyte, asus....etc... I read reviews for a month or so before I went with VisionTek and its been worth it. Will you review the Visiontek hd 3870 for me, I really want to know your thoughts about this card.....its been great!!
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27. April 2008 @ 17:05 |
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The Visiontek card is the same as the basic OEM grouping card, so it'll be identical to my Powercolor card. The cooler is quiet, but not sufficient for most uses without either being forced up by a program like rivatuner or a BIOS flash. IIRC The OEM reference cards are actually made by ATI themselves (this will encompass the early Sapphire cards, Powercolor, Visiontek and Diamond) and the appropriate company just puts their sticker on it. Price for performance I'd give the cards 9, for image quality 10, for the quality of the software 4, the quality of the hardware 3. A round 6.5/10 for the card.
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27. April 2008 @ 17:06 |
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I know it really is an amazing cpu!!!!!!!! how do you change your score when overclocked man?
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27. April 2008 @ 17:07 |
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Just run the test again!
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27. April 2008 @ 17:10 |
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why do they act completely different, some get very hot, some catch fire........I mean from what I have read on hard forum and newegg the visiontek has ran cooler and had less problemsthe highest mine gets is around 56c...I was just wondering
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27. April 2008 @ 17:14 |
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Im on my 3rd test still says the same thing....this is weird everything is at 5.9 but my cpu is still the same lol
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27. April 2008 @ 17:19 |
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It probably isn't overclocked far enough to increase the result.
As for the graphics cards, it's just what happens. With poor quality workmanship comes unpredictability.
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27. April 2008 @ 18:27 |
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oh no theres something wrong lol, i have 4 pc and 2 on vista, and the one in my bed room i the same build and its saying 5.9, it is also the 5000+ BE oc'ed to 3.2
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