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26. June 2008 @ 17:44 |
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Lol what a moron...
Go read up on power supplies.
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Bhmack1
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26. June 2008 @ 17:51 |
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Do you think 650w will be enough? It seems like it should be. Maybe 750w or 1000w. Money really isn't the issue. Stability and plenty of upgrade room is really what this build is about.
BTW, I haven't given up on the clear case idea. What do you think about this one. I like the 5x 120mm fan slots....
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26. June 2008 @ 17:52 |
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You'll need to post a link for us to judge! lol
I ran two HD3870s off a Corsair HX 520W with miles of room to spare. HD4850s hardly use any more power, so you could run two of them off a 520 with ease, let alone a 620.
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26. June 2008 @ 17:54 |
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26. June 2008 @ 17:56 |
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An odd layout, but that case will do fine. Obviously it's really expensive though, so think hard about if you want a clear case that much.
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26. June 2008 @ 18:26 |
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lol DosError, what a idiot. A 550VX will be more than sufficient for him. EIGHT HUNDRED FREAKIN WATTS? That's overkill.
I can't tell anything from those clear pictures. It just blends in. Man you WILL REGRET having a clear case. I used to have a TT Armor and it has a HUGE clear sidepanael and I started hating that. I bought a RC-690 primarily because then I can NOT see the inside of my PC.
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27. June 2008 @ 00:50 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
lol DosError, what a idiot. A 550VX will be more than sufficient for him. EIGHT HUNDRED FREAKIN WATTS? That's overkill.
I can't tell anything from those clear pictures. It just blends in. Man you WILL REGRET having a clear case. I used to have a TT Armor and it has a HUGE clear sidepanael and I started hating that. I bought a RC-690 primarily because then I can NOT see the inside of my PC.
550VX? That's only 550w.... And hey what I'm telling him is just a suggestion to adjust more higher the power supply. And for your information I'm not an IDIOT nor MORON. It seems that you're only a KID and NOT a professional mankind. Is that how you treat a new comer in this forum? a Newbie TAG under my username is not a basis to judge a people.
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27. June 2008 @ 00:52 |
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Fine sorry for calling you an idiot. Ok I'm a Kid, but I do this a lot.
YES, a 550VX. It's all about quality. I will stand by this. A 550VX will EASILY run two 4850s in SLI.
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27. June 2008 @ 00:57 |
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Originally posted by Bhmack1:
Do you think 650w will be enough? It seems like it should be. Maybe 750w or 1000w. Money really isn't the issue. Stability and plenty of upgrade room is really what this build is about.
BTW, I haven't given up on the clear case idea. What do you think about this one. I like the 5x 120mm fan slots....
I didn't say 650w what I'm saying is 850w or higher. 750w is a good idea specially if you want to add more fan. But for sure a water cooler could be fine. But I don't use that because is more risk on it. If you can go back to my previous post you will see the bold 850w suggestion.
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27. June 2008 @ 00:58 |
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Seriously man, now it's come to water cooling? You know the Q9450 does not run hot at all right? He will run out of OC headroom before heat becomes an issue.
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27. June 2008 @ 06:58 |
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No, I'm sorry but I'm still calling you an idiot. Whether it says newbie or Afterdawn Addict under your username, the point still stands. You were initially suggesting that for a PC that barely uses 300W under full load that a 600W power supply is insufficient, since you quoted the list that still contained the single 8800GTS card. It doesn't seem like you have any first hand experience of how much power PCs really draw. Even with two HD4850s in the system it will be pushing a little over 400W, from the wall, so the DC output of the system will be more like 360-370W. Think that's too much for a 620W PSU? Let alone a Corsair HX 620W, which can really output almost 700W without making a fuss.
It's wise to choose a bigger PSU than you need for headroom and reliability purposes, but we have. I think 250W of headroom is plenty.
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27. June 2008 @ 07:00 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
Seriously man, now it's come to water cooling? You know the Q9450 does not run hot at all right? He will run out of OC headroom before heat becomes an issue.
Who knows? Q9450 is still a processor & nobody know when it will getting heat. As I've said I'm not using a water cooling because of the risk besides it's a waste of money :)
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27. June 2008 @ 07:02 |
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Now you're talking a little more sense. Watercooling a Q9450 is a reasonable idea if you're going to overclock the nadgers off it, but under normal circumstances it's fine with air cooling - Abuzar saying 'the Q9450 does not run hot at all' is a little misleading as it still outputs more than any Core 2 Duo, even if you overclock the latter, but it's still more than within the limits of a powerful heatsink.
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27. June 2008 @ 07:08 |
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I am suggesting a water cooling system because of the title of GAMING PC and I'm presume that he will over clock the speed of processor as what most do.
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27. June 2008 @ 07:12 |
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So? At my LAN party, there are 30-40 gaming PCs, a good 20 of them are overclocked, and several of those are quad cores. I know of only one PC that's watercooled, and it's an Athlon X2, stock. Watercooling does give you an overclocking advantage, but it's not the least bit essential - these people are running close to 3.5Ghz on their Q9450s and Q6600s just using Thermalright's CPU coolers - oh and guess what PSUs they've got? The guy who overclocked his Q9450 to 3.7Ghz (not permanently, his Vcore was too high to risk that) and runs a 9800GTX is using a Corsair HX 620W.
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27. June 2008 @ 07:34 |
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I thought this forum is to help each other but it seems that this forum is to despise each other because they don't want to deprive their ego.
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27. June 2008 @ 07:36 |
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No this forum is to help each other - sometimes helping people means saving them from wasting piles of money on overkill PSUs and unnecessary cooling systems.
It's also worth mentioning that the 850W OCZ PSU you mentioned, if pushed, will shut down a fair while before 850W. They're not actually that great. if you really do need an 850W you'd probably be better off looking at Zalman. In this case however, a Corsair HX 520W or VX 550W will be ample.
Additionally, you may want to adjust the size of your signature - forum regulation is 5 lines.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 27. June 2008 @ 07:39
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27. June 2008 @ 12:09 |
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What I meant is that it runs MUCH cooler compared to a Q6600 and with a decent air cooler and the CPU at non-suicidal voltages heat will never become an issue.
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27. June 2008 @ 13:19 |
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Does it? I thought the TDP for both was the same...
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27. June 2008 @ 14:57 |
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Yeah combined with the fact than 45nm CPUs run much cooler, and the much lower voltage required for overclocks, they do run quite a bit cooler.
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27. June 2008 @ 15:01 |
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The Q6600 G0 and Q9450 both have a 95W TDP though - so at stock at least, how could one possibly run cooler than the other? I understand how the 9450s would run cooler overclocked due to the lower voltage, but at stock?
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27. June 2008 @ 17:00 |
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Well we were talking about overclocking here. The Q6600 needs a lot more voltage to run at 3.6Ghz then the Q9450. So it runs much cooler.
You also have to take into consideration that the Q9450 runs faster at stock speeds than the Q6600.
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27. June 2008 @ 17:18 |
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Originally posted by Abuzar:
Yeah combined with the fact than 45nm CPUs run much cooler, and the much lower voltage required for overclocks,
Two separate points, surely? :P
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27. June 2008 @ 19:09 |
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Yeah... I don't get it.
But yeah, the Q9450 runs cooler :)
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27. June 2008 @ 19:12 |
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<rolls eyes>
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