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19. July 2008 @ 00:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hello i am a noob at selecting good pc parts as this is my first rig i need some advice

The rig is going to be for gaming and other light things such as internet ect my budget is arround $1500 usd and i have chosen my parts on newegg i also want my rig to be able to play the latest games on high settings

i am planing to tri boot my pc with vista ubuntu & windows xp"pro" i will use xp pro as defualt os

i am also planning to o/c my cpu and graphics card

i need a pro or someone who knows what they are talking about to segust parts to me here is the link to my parts i have chosen

[url=http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=10164448&WishListTitle=my][/url]

I need a good segustion on a graphics card and power supply and if there is anything you think i should change just say

my pc has to be in good blance with price/preformance

thankyou for reading
and thanks in advance
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19. July 2008 @ 00:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So far I have noticed that you have no power supply in that list,... make sure you select a quality power supply as it is a very important part. Also for changes i would not use an 8800GT with your budget you could do much better (GTX or the new nvidia GPUs) also that motherboard is kinda over kill... i would look for a mid range gigabyte or asus mother board

PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004

GPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150292

MOBO:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128082
supports both DDR2 and DDR3

RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145214
or the 2GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145043

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19. July 2008 @ 00:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yea i was using a website to work out how much power i will need still not sure,the mobo i have chose i am going to keep as it has lots of functions and i will be able to up grade parts rather than having to redo my whole Rig again for the graphics card is there any card that you know is you favorite or one that you can segust thanks for replying.
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19. July 2008 @ 00:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
also do you think i should plan for SLI is it worth it?
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19. July 2008 @ 02:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You can do way better than your wishlist.

Replace the CPU with either a Q9450 or a Q6600(the Q6600 is cheaper. See which one you can afford)
Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3R(Or if you want more future proof, a GA-X48-DS4. This motherboard can take TWO video cards)
ATI Radeon 4850

Oh and get this ram instead.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145197

Oh and buy.com had good deals on PSU's. I would get a 550vx or 650TX if you plan on getting a second video card later on.
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19. July 2008 @ 02:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks

you still think i should go for a intel over amd cpu as amd cpu'z are cheaper but you cant o/c :(
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19. July 2008 @ 02:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
lol You CAN OC, just not as much.

Yes, the Intel CPUs offer much better performance ATM.
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19. July 2008 @ 10:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by housedog:
also do you think i should plan for SLI is it worth it?
I would not do SLI.... i would use the money to get the best possible video card. and if somehow your able to fit a second card of the same type into your budget than I would do that.

As for the motherboard the only reason I suggested a change is because I dont think that motherboard uses the most stable chipset. Some of the gigabyte and asus boards offer the same features, but with a more stable (but still powerful) intel chipset.

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19. July 2008 @ 11:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
SLI isn't worth it, solely on the basis that it requires an nvidia chipset board, which are very rarely as good as Intel chipset boards. If you want a dual graphics system (which is easily doable on that budget) then use ATI graphics cards and an Intel chipset based system.

This is a parts list I would go with for $1500:

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115042
M/B: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128336
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145197
GPUs: 2x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102747
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139002
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146047
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152100
ODD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136117
CPU cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134

$1550 ish, but with $135 of mail in rebates.



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19. July 2008 @ 20:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi thanks for the reply just got a few more questions on the Gpu

ther is a person who says the cards can not play crysis on full settings!
this is what he says

""it touches me in my sleep. It doesn;t like crysis i can run on most everything high with 1200 x 1024 and its not really choppy unless your in a village. but it rips everything else. o ya its really hot don't touch it. i had to make profiles to adjust the fan speed wish it was just automatic""

and also if you get 2 of those cards do they work 2geather like SLI?

thanks again
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19. July 2008 @ 20:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That depends. Crysis is an absurd game. Not even two GTX280s in SLI can max it at a playable setting yet. Turn everything to 'very high' in Crysis and even at a low resolution it runs like fudge.



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19. July 2008 @ 20:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sam's parts list is a bit more advanced than mine, can you afford it? I noticed that you wanted a Monitor in that 1500 also?

You can do CROSSFIRE(not SLI, because these are ATI cards) on that motherboard. Get two 4850's and the GA-X48-DS4 and you are good to go!
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19. July 2008 @ 20:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ah my mistake. If you do want a monitor within that 1500 housedog, let me know what size, and I'll edit the list accordingly.



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20. July 2008 @ 00:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey sam yea if you could work it to put a new monitor in that would be great...about crysis the rig you segusted be 4 do you think it would be able to handel crysis on high settings?? or not

thanks again
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20. July 2008 @ 00:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, that rig will Handle Crysis EASILY. Plus you're getting a 22" Monitor so it's not like you will be trying to play at 2560x1600.
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20. July 2008 @ 06:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
A moderate gaming PC can handle crysis, but if you want to turn everything to the max, the PC I suggested that's 1500 without the monitor would be the bare minimum to pull that off at 1680x1050. However, a little tweaking of the detail settings (typically lowering the shadow quality) and it'll easily run at that resolution on a less powerful PC.
If you're willing to spend more than 1500 initially but let the rebates bring it back, lose one HD4850 from that list and add this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001261



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21. July 2008 @ 02:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so with that the pc it would be able to play crysis at what resoulition and how many fps? your best guess?

thanks
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21. July 2008 @ 07:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Using an HD3870 at 1920x1200 I can max the game (without Anti-Aliasing) and score at least 20fps for the entire game except for the ridiculous final boss where it dropped to about 12-15 (which is the same frame rate that I played it at, the last scene is twice as demanding as anything else). Using an HD4850 you'd get far higher performance than this, and at a lower resolution, I'd say you could probably turn it all the way up and get at least 25fps for pretty much the entire game.



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22. July 2008 @ 05:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey can you even play @ 12-15fps?? is it realy hard?
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22. July 2008 @ 05:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It is hard, yes, and it's made moreso by the fact that quite justifiably, the end boss is actually quite a difficult section of the game. It's a bit buggy as well...



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