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21. July 2008 @ 08:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hello everyone, I've recently been thinking on upgrading my video card. I currently have in mind buying the EVGA GeForce 8500 GT Video Card - 1GB GDDR2, PCI Express, SLI Ready, (Dual Link) DVI, VGA, HDTV. Will it be compatible with my hp pavilion m7750n? I don't want to change the PSU since I will probably build (or have someone to build lol) a gaming computer in the near future. so I just basically need a video card that will let me play most of the games without having to change the PSU. Any help will be highly appreciated it.
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21. July 2008 @ 15:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The 8500GT is a very slow graphics card, but anything better will result in you needing a better power supply. If you can't afford to upgrade your PC safely then wait until you can.



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21. July 2008 @ 16:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
The 8500GT is a very slow graphics card, but anything better will result in you needing a better power supply. If you can't afford to upgrade your PC safely then wait until you can.

very slow? :( yeah I dont want to change the PSU since first I dont know how, and second I dont want to spend too much money since again ill have someone to build me a computer in about 1 year or so. Any other recommendation? thank you ^_^
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21. July 2008 @ 16:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Changing a PSU is hardly any more difficult than changing a graphics card, and not particularly time consuming either.

The 8500GT is around 4-5x as powerful as integrated graphics, but the typical graphics cards used in gaming PCs currently are 10-15x faster than the 8500GT.



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21. July 2008 @ 17:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
Changing a PSU is hardly any more difficult than changing a graphics card, and not particularly time consuming either.

The 8500GT is around 4-5x as powerful as integrated graphics, but the typical graphics cards used in gaming PCs currently are 10-15x faster than the 8500GT.

wow lol thank you for the info I think Ill teach myself how to do it, and heck maybe I'm able to do it right lol anyhow I'm not really that bad at computers, so do you recommend any card or PSU in particular?
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21. July 2008 @ 17:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What's your budget?



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21. July 2008 @ 17:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
What's your budget?

I'll say something no more than $300 or so, maybe a little more than that.
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21. July 2008 @ 17:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102747
Just be advised, your case needs to have sufficient cooling to use a card like this. You may want to consider an uprated case fan.




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21. July 2008 @ 17:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102747
Just be advised, your case needs to have sufficient cooling to use a card like this. You may want to consider an uprated case fan.

That video card looks so cool lol neat, ok thanks for everything about the cooling I might as well looking to upgrade that. +++REP thank you
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21. July 2008 @ 17:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No problem, any other questions, just post again... :)



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21. July 2008 @ 17:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
No problem, any other questions, just post again... :)

cool thanks mate. btw you are 12 days older than me lol me 05/17/88 peace
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21. July 2008 @ 17:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Heh congrats, you'd probably be in a group of over a dozen other people I know who were born in 88, half of them on the same day as me, oddly enough.



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21. July 2008 @ 17:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
Heh congrats, you'd probably be in a group of over a dozen other people I know who were born in 88, half of them on the same day as me, oddly enough.

We are the nerdy generation! lol jk
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22. July 2008 @ 07:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well ive had personal Exp with the 8500GT sam might remember :P, anyways I will exactly tell you if you can go with something better go for it pref 4850 or a cheap 8800GT 8500GT will dissapoint in current games like say COD 4 i ran that all maxxed with 8500 1024x768 no lag but any higher res, Pro Street ran fine maxxed at 1024x768 pretty much any game up to Pro Streets level will run fine at 1024x768 on high any game prior to 2006 or so will run fine at any res maxxed crysis exp pretty dodgy 8fps avg at 800x600 everything high besides 2 settings while a 8800GT and 4850 which are around even atm 4850 bit better not much COd 4 np at high Res and Crysis can run on very high at like 1024x768 or higher no lag.








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22. July 2008 @ 07:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Two points dazila, firstly, try and make your posts a bit more coherent, the lack of any punctuation makes them a real headache to read, and secondly there is a vast difference between the HD4850 and the 8800GT, such that two 8800GTs in SLI are about even with an HD4850 most of the time.



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22. July 2008 @ 09:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
From what i've seen 3D Mark Benchmarks they are within 200 points if I find link I will give it to you but who knows I myself know id love to upgrade to a 4870 and plan to by January or Feburary when prices drop.
For the punctuation, I really Cant be bothered spelling every word correctly on a forum.
Finally, does he have enough money for a 4850 and a corsair VX620......








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22. July 2008 @ 09:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
nvidia cards score far higher in 3dmark than their equals from ATI, and always have, it's why 3dmark has always been a scam, nvidia wrote their drivers specifically to abuse the system. Comparing like to like systems with it is all well and good, but when you have one PC with an ATI card and another with a geforce, 3dmark is completely irrelevant.

Also, there's no such thing as a 620W VX, and if you meant the HX, he doesn't need one.



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23. July 2008 @ 02:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I guess no one has said But i really think your 5000+ X2 might bottleneck your 4850 and no one please deny, an E2180 at stock speeds which is around the speed of a 4800+ bottlenecked my 8800GT I have pushed it to 3.30ghz but if you do not plan to OC your 5000+ it WILL bottleneck a 4850 seeing the power it has.








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23. July 2008 @ 04:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It will bottleneck the card a little bit, but it could be a lot worse. Most games only require a dual core of some description, and the 5000+ isn't that bad. It is only about the speed of an E2180 stock, but that's not unacceptable.



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23. July 2008 @ 04:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yea well im not telling him not to get it but he wont be able to go and expect same performance, especially considering my 8800GT was bottlenecked by my E2180 at stock speed, so in the end he will get an improvement but his FPS overall will be less then using a 8800GT at Max potential.








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23. July 2008 @ 04:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Not so in most games if he turns the graphical detail up. In my eyes, the CPU is a bottleneck for a card, not just when it causes a lower frame rate than a higher CPU would allow for, but when it actually limits your frame rate to something unacceptable. So what if it limits him to 70fps rather than 90? It's not going to show, and if you turn the detail up, you'll see more with the same performance.



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23. July 2008 @ 04:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well yes but depending on what he plays if he plays Crysis every FPS will count.








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23. July 2008 @ 04:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You can play Crysis on an X2 5000+. If he's building a new PC in the near future, why not just leave him be for now? He can reuse the HD4850 in his new build, or hell, even use a crossfire board and add another.



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23. July 2008 @ 04:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
like i said he cant get it but he will get less then maxumim 8800GT performance out of it.








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23. July 2008 @ 04:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
no he won't. I'm not going to continue intelligent discussion on the basis of something that isn't true.



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