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lyminster
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24. July 2008 @ 04:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have just upgraded 90% of my PC, and I am having the same "blue screen" the old system gave me. I have a Quad Q6600, biostar mainboard, 2 x 1gb kingston memory and GeForce 8500GT graphics.

My old system blue screened under heavy workload, now this is doing the same. The only original components to stay are my PSU and my HDD's. I have a temp monitor and the cpu ide's at 34 celcius so heat isnt a problem.

any ideas on how i can kill the blue screen?? Its doing my head in as this system is now so fast, but so tempermental.


Thanks in advance
Dave
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24. July 2008 @ 04:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i dont know if this is the main problem, but if you added a new cpu, ram, and video card, you most likely have to upgrade your psu. unless its already a good one of course.

just a side note:if you do plan on playing a lot of games, i suggest getting a better video card.
lyminster
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24. July 2008 @ 04:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The psu is an old one so replacing it is a problem. Its only a 400w from years ago, prob worth going to 500w????

I never play games on the pc, but I do use the card for karaoke software, using the tv as a second monitor.
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24. July 2008 @ 05:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just some thoughts.. PSU underpower usually causes black screen-reboot whereas wobbly hdd's cause blue screen (protected memory faults) because of bad sectors in the windows pagefile area.
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24. July 2008 @ 11:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's not the wattage you need, it's the brand that matters. This PSU will be more than up to the job:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003
Replace that as a priority, I wouldn't be happy with an old tired PSU running a Quad core processor.

If no joy after the new PSU, then consider changing the HDDs.
Are you using Vista?



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24. July 2008 @ 18:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
no im running XP on a 80gb sata, and have a 500gb IDE for my storage, with the dvd writer on the same IDE as master.

I'll look into the psu and get it changed asap, ive had the current one for over 4 years!! bless it! :)

Thanks for your infomation so far! appreciate it.
Dave
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28. July 2008 @ 17:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok ive changed the psu for a nice bit of kit, but it still blue screens. I have narrowed the blue screening to the following programs:

ConvertXtoDVD
DVD Source Creator
DVD Lab

This happens in normal mode as well as safe mode.

Any ideas?

Thanks
Dave
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28. July 2008 @ 18:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Try a nice free open source operating system instead of that pirated proprietary locked down shit and start over.. then we can help you learn to make the most with your excellent new hardware instead of trying to make shit smell good :)
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28. July 2008 @ 19:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It probably won't be the problem, but can I ask ehat the 'nice bit of kit' you bought was? There plenty of good looking, but horrifically dangerous PSUs out there.



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28. July 2008 @ 19:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Take the revolver from my sig and shoot your monitor. That should kill the BSOD.

Or you could get the PSU sam recommended. Also, run Memtest.
lyminster
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29. July 2008 @ 03:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Mhel 500w Blue Illuminated 80/120 Fan SATA Gaming PSU

is the psu I opted for. My old PSU only had the 20 pin connection to the mobo, this one now has 24. Was hoping that would help, but it hasn't.

Looking into the memory test now :)


Thanks
Dave
lyminster
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29. July 2008 @ 04:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Failed memory test after 3% complete. Replaced memory with smaller and slower memory, memtest complete no errors.


thanks for all your help :)

Dave
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29. July 2008 @ 05:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well I'm glad it's fixed, but you've bought another bad PSU. Take it back and get a proper one, or you will regret it.



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29. July 2008 @ 05:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sam,
Thanks for your advice I shall get the one you recommended once pay day arrvies.

Could you advise\explain what makes a good or bad psu. Up until ive always thought that power is power, regardless of make etc etc. Just one of those things I have never upgraded or worried about.

Thanks
Dave
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29. July 2008 @ 05:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
A good brand 500W power supply, for example Corsair, Zalman, Seasonic, has a shutdown point of just over 500W, and can deliver that 500W 24 hours a day.
A cheap 500W power supply will shut down at 500W, but will scarcely be able to output that for long as the components inside will only be rated for about 120W, and I'm not joking, it's usually even worse than that. Typically these PSUs either go pop and turn off, or catch fire, if this 120W rating (for example) is exceeded. The reason why companies get away with this is that most people buy 500W PSUs thinking their systems need them, when in actual fact they probably do use less than 120W. PCs don't use as much power as you think they do, unless you use dual graphics and a quad core processor in a system, wattage is almost meaningless, it's all down to how much power the PSU can actually deliver, not what it says it can.

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=14449



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lyminster
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29. July 2008 @ 06:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks for the advice, understand it all now! love the video, puts words into dramatic video!

thanks
dave
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29. July 2008 @ 07:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Glad it worked out.

I love that video. We should show it to all the new people.
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1. August 2008 @ 23:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
btw sometimes its not event he brand that matters, its the ripples on the rails, how much they deviate from thier rails, how much voltage is being ouputted in each rail (so long as its within 3% of the rail value, it is a brilliant PSU, and the AMPs on the 12V rail is very important.



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2. August 2008 @ 08:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Indeed, and the ripple on even supposedly good units like FSPs and OCZ GameXStreams is horrendous.



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