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7. August 2008 @ 11:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I know its alot but can someone make a small list of the graphics cards that are better than the 9500gs thats on the computer im about to buy? its a HP Pavilion Elite m9300t.
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7. August 2008 @ 11:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I looked it up, and they are charging quite a lot for it. They add $150 to the proce of the computer for that card which is not very good for you. I know for a fact that the 8800GT is better and costs about the same. I can look up some benchmarks for you if you want.

EDIT: BTW, how much are you spending on that PC in total? A budget would help here.

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7. August 2008 @ 12:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Probably many cards.

3850, 3870, 8800GS, 9600GT, 9600GS, 8800gt etc.
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7. August 2008 @ 14:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
7900GTX
7950GX2
9600GSO
9600GT
8800GS
8800GT
8800GTS G80
8800GTS G92
8800GTX
8800 Ultra
9800GT
9800GTX
9800GTX+
GTX260
GTX280
X1900XT-X
X1950XT-X
HD3850
HD3870
HD3870X2
HD4850
HD4870
HD4870X2

at least, probably more.



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7. August 2008 @ 19:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wow.....I will not buy that computer. thanks for all ur help
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7. August 2008 @ 19:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by proxyRAX:
I looked it up, and they are charging quite a lot for it. They add $150 to the proce of the computer for that card which is not very good for you. I know for a fact that the 8800GT is better and costs about the same. I can look up some benchmarks for you if you want.

EDIT: BTW, how much are you spending on that PC in total? A budget would help here.
oh, and im trying to spend no more than 1,000
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7. August 2008 @ 19:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
if your buying a prebuilt computer, your going to most likely have to both the video card and power supply (depending on what card you get).

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7. August 2008 @ 19:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
one more question, is the 9500gs really that bad cause I cant seem to find a computer with a better graphics card out of the box and I dont want a only gaming computer cause I want to do many other things. cause the ones im looking at are really good computers just a not so good graphics card. are there any sites where u can customize a computer?
Thx
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7. August 2008 @ 20:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Why not build one yourself? Then it can be totally customized to how you want it.
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7. August 2008 @ 20:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Agreed, you will get a much better result. Prebuilt PCs that can game and don't cost a small fortune are a rare breed.



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7. August 2008 @ 20:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Or I'll sell you mine for 950 :)
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9. August 2008 @ 15:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just found 2 with a 9800gt but ones overclocked. does that make a big difference cause the computer that isnt overclocked is better overall. there both around 1,100$
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9. August 2008 @ 18:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
List now edited to show cards faster than 9800GT:

8800GTS G92
8800GTX
8800 Ultra
9800GTX
9800GX2
GTX260
GTX280
HD3870X2
HD4850
HD4870
HD4870X2

The HD4850 is still a better card.



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9. August 2008 @ 18:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
WHOOO like mine.

BUY MINE! haha 3.8Ghz Quad core. Come on now. Not getting that anywhere else.
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10. August 2008 @ 12:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks for the list and the offers but, I dont need anything extreme to be my graphics card I just want to casual game. Just for the record can the 9800gt play elder scrolls oblivion at full speed? if so what about crysis? (I doubt it can run that game full speed though)...
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10. August 2008 @ 12:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Outdoor Oblivion on 1920x1200 maxed out with no AA and 8x AF it should run it around 30FPS depending on CPU you get. That's with a 3 GHZ core 2 duo.

Crysis it will NOT run maxed out.

Just as a comparison a 4850 would be around 1.8 times faster.
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10. August 2008 @ 13:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
just for the info the computer has 6 gb ram, 9800gt, and a Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 2.5 ghz Processor. so would crysis run about have speed or faster.
oh and is 30 fps full speed? (sorry im new to computer gaming)
thanks
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10. August 2008 @ 14:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what do you mean full speed? if you want to run crysis on high, then your going to have to get ATLEAST a HD4850.

or you can get a cheaper card, but you'll have to tone down the resolution and quality.

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10. August 2008 @ 14:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok so your Q9300 is running a bit slower. I'm not sure how CPU bound oblivion is. Still you're going to get less FPS.

Also FPS goes up the faster your computer is. There is no practical limit. Most people think more than 60FPS looks best.
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10. August 2008 @ 15:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Depends what resolution you play at - if you only use 1280x1024, a card like the 8800GT can easily max almost any game except for Crysis, which you could run at mostly high detail, perhaps medium shadows and/or shaders.

If you use a high resolution like 1920x1200 though, you need at least an HD4850 to max out current games.

For strategy games, 25fps and above is fine, for Crysis, around 25-30 is where it starts looking smooth. For faster FPS games or multiplayers, FEAR Combat, Unreal Tournament, Quake 4 etc., you really want 50 plus.



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10. August 2008 @ 22:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok good because Im only going to running my games at 1280x960. so I Should be able to run just about every game except for crysis at full speed right? keep in mind that I have a 9800 gt
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10. August 2008 @ 22:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Heres a link to thje computer I plan on buying, tell me what you guys think: http://www.gateway.com/systems/product/529668105.php
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10. August 2008 @ 22:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah you will be fine at that resolution.

The computer is alright. The memory is kinda slow, and you wont be upgrading anything on it with that PSU. But it will work for your purposes.
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11. August 2008 @ 07:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Indeed, the PSU means you won't be able to upgrade anything until you replace it, but for now at least you should be able to run everything at that resolution, Crysis included.
1280x960 though.... ugh



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11. August 2008 @ 11:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Good. I plan on buying a bigger monitor later on cause mines only 19" but that works for me.

Thanks for all your help guys.

 
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