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Golden5
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16. August 2008 @ 00:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have the choice of choosing from these two rigs. They come pre-built so I can not change any of the pieces. Some of the pieces say no brand name on them like the ram for example (I would think they would use the cheapest brands considering the price.)

1st RIG

Processor Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600(2.4GHz)
Processor Main Features 64 bit Quad-Core Processor
Cache Per Processor 8MB L2 Cache
Memory 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 800
Hard Drive 500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 7200RPM HDD
Optical Drive 1 20X DVD±R/±RW Dual Layer Drive
Optical Drive 2 16X DVD-ROM
Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 9800GTX PLUS 512MB PCI Express Video Card
Audio Sound card - Integrated
Ethernet Gigabit LAN
Operating System Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit
Special Features Apevia X-Telstar Jr. Case w/ Side Window & 600W PSU
Chipset NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI
Motherboard Name ASUS P5N-E SLI
CPU Type Core 2 Quad
CPU FSB 1066MHz
CPU Speed Q6600(2.40GHz)
L2 Cache Per CPU 8MB
CPU Socket Type LGA 775
CPU Main Features 64 bit Quad-Core Processor
GPU/VPU Type NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX+
Graphics Interface PCI Express x16
Memory Capacity 4GB DDR2
Memory Speed DDR2 800
Form Factor DIMM 240-pin
Memory Spec 2GB x 2
Memory Slots (Available/Total) 2/4
Maximum Memory Supported 8GB
HD Capacity 500GB
HD Interface SATA
HD RPM 7200rpm
HD Spec SATA-II 3.0Gb/s
Optical Drive Type DVD±RW
Optical Drive Spec 20X DVD±R/±RW Dual Layer Drive
Optical Drive 2 Type DVD-ROM
Optical Drive 2 Spec 16X DVD-ROM
Audio Chipset Realtek ALC883
LAN Chipset Integrated
LAN Speed 10/100/1000Mbps
Front USB 2
Front IEEE 1394 1
Front Audio Ports 2
Card Reader 12-in-1 Flash Media Reader/Writer
LPT 1
PS/2 2
Video Ports 2 DVI
TV Out 1 x S-Video Out (HDTV Compatible)
Rear USB 4
Rear IEEE 1394 1
eSATA 1
RJ45 1 port
Rear Audio Ports 3 ports
S/P DIF 1 port
PCI Slots (Available/Total) 2 x PCI Express x16
1 x PCI Express x1
2 x PCI Slots
Total= 1,049.99


2nd RIG

Processor AMD Phenom X4 9850(2.5GHz)
Processor Main Features 64 bit Quad-Core Processor
Cache Per Processor 4 x 512KB L2 Cache
Memory 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 800
Hard Drive 500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 7200RPM HDD
Optical Drive 1 20X DVD±R/±RW Dual Layer Drive
Optical Drive 2 16X DVD-ROM
Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 896MB PCI Express Video Card
Audio Sound card - Integrated
Ethernet Gigabit LAN
Power Supply 800W
Operating System Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit
Special Features Raidmax Sagitta II Case w/ 800W Power Supply
CoolerMaster Hyper-X CPU Cooling Fan
Chipset NVIDIA nForce 560 SLI Chipset
Motherboard Name ASUS M2N SLI
CPU Type Phenom X4
CPU Speed 9850(2.5GHz)
L2 Cache Per CPU 4 x 512KB
CPU Socket Type AM2+
CPU Main Features 64 bit Quad-Core Processor
GPU/VPU Type NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260
Graphics Interface PCI Express x16
Memory Capacity 4GB DDR2
Memory Speed DDR2 800
Form Factor DIMM 240-pin
Memory Spec 2GB x 2
Memory Slots (Available/Total) 2/4
Maximum Memory Supported 8GB
HD Capacity 500GB
HD Interface SATA
HD RPM 7200rpm
HD Spec SATA-II 3.0Gb/s
Optical Drive Type DVD±RW
Optical Drive Spec 20X DVD±R/±RW Dual Layer Drive
Optical Drive 2 Type DVD-ROM
Optical Drive 2 Spec 16X DVD-ROM
Audio Chipset Integrated
LAN Chipset Integrated
LAN Speed 10/100/1000Mbps
Front USB 3 USB (1 in the Card Reader)
Front Audio Ports 2
Card Reader 12-in-1 Flash Media Reader/Writer
COM 1
LPT 1
PS/2 2
Video Ports 2 DVI
TV Out 1
Rear USB 4
Rear IEEE 1394 1
RJ45 1 port
Rear Audio Ports 6 ports
S/P DIF 1 port
PCI Slots (Available/Total) 2 x PCI Express x16 (Support x8+x8 in SLI)
2 x PCI Express x1
2 x PCI

Total= 1,179.99

I obviously know that the graphics card is better on the second rig but what about everything else. I'm not to familiar about AMD processors. Thanks in advance.
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16. August 2008 @ 13:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If I had either I'd pick the 1st one. Phenoms are OK, but Core 2 Quads really are the way to go. However, neither of these represent good value for money or well thought out parts. You would be far better off building your own.
These PCs look like they might be coming from somewhere like IBuyPower or Cyberpower - don't use either, they aren't well made, and everything except the case they're put in is low grade, low quality knockoff gear that will cause you problems.




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16. August 2008 @ 17:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I often play games on my PC but the truth of the matter is games are much better on console than PC. personally i would buy a decent console and build a good PC for the same price.

i9 9900K CPU,ASUS MAXIMUS XI HERO Mobo, Fractal R6 Case,
Corsair H115I ,Corsair RM Series 850W psu,
RTX 3080 Ti ,Corsair DDR4 Vengeance RGB PRO 32GB 1TB Intel SSD 660p Series,1TB M.2 ,36TB Seagate HD,19TB Ext, LG BH16NS40 BD-RW,Creative Sound Blaster Zx 116dB Sound Card, Acer Predator XB321HK 32inch 4K Monitor, 2TB PS4
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16. August 2008 @ 17:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
VERY subjective. Ask most people on this forum and they will actually tell you the opposite. There's a reason why we spend so much money getting our PCs up to date for games purposes. Console games can go so far, but the PC delivers a completely different experience.



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16. August 2008 @ 17:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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16. August 2008 @ 18:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Case: mediocre, it might look nice in your opinion, but it's neither well made or well cooled, use an NZXT Tempest if you can afford it, if not, use something like a Coolermaster RC-590 or NZXT Alpha.

Motherboard: Hands down the worst motherboard ever made.
I recommend the Gigabyte EP45-DS3R instead of that heap of profanities. I had one, it sucked, i know several other people who had one, they all sucked. The EP45-DS3R will not only perform better, it's also miles more reliable.

PSU: Unnecessary. A Corsair HX 520W Will do fine, it's not the wattage that matters, it's the brand.

CPU: Fine

RAM: Fine
HDD: Fine
ODD: Fine
OS: Just be careful with 64-bit OSes, not all peripherals and programs work with them.

CPU Cooler: Use a Freezer 7 Pro instead.

GPU: No, for that money you can get a superior Visiontek Radeon HD4870.





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16. August 2008 @ 20:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I decided to leave everything the same except for the PSU, the motherboard, and the cooling as I feel that it is efficient for me.

I took your advice and changed the PSU to CORSAIR 650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V, the motherboard to GIGABYTE GA-EP45-DS3R, and the CPU cooler to ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm.

Thanks for all your help.
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17. August 2008 @ 11:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Your call. You're losing out by not switching to the HD4870 though. It's not a vast difference, but in some games it is quite significant.

You're still overkill on the PSU, but at least now you have something reliable and quiet, even if you do lose modular cabling.



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21. August 2008 @ 02:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just got done building this system and I'm currently waiting for the GPU to ship to me later today. Does anyone know where I can find a good guide or video on how to set up the PC after it's built. I'm totally clueless when it comes to the Bios and everything else. So far the building part wasn't hard at all. Any help is appreciated.
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21. August 2008 @ 04:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There's a lot of stuff in the BIOS. Rather than tell you about it all, why not post here or in the building thread with any questions?



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