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19. August 2008 @ 13:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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will i need to buy any additional fans?
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20. August 2008 @ 17:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Potentially, it depends.



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...again i have no experience of this, but would it be possible to overclock the q6600 with ths stock cooler & 380w psu?
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Yeah. Probably to like 3Ghz.
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21. August 2008 @ 15:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah as long as you're not using a graphics card with two power connectors you'll be fine, Unless you have a silly number of hard disks, your maximum AC load will be around 330W with a Quad at 3Ghz, so only about 270W DC, plenty of room. The Earthwatts PSUs are still pretty quiet at that figure, in fact I didn't realise until when I looked recently just how quiet the Earthwatts units are.



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I'm buying the hd3850 like you suggested, i take it this one doesn't have two power connecters right?

also, what difference does 512mb and 256mb make on a graphics card?
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21. August 2008 @ 16:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Very little at low resolutions like 1280x1024, quite substantial beyond that point. An HD3850 and Quad core will be fine, they use remarkably little power.



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22. August 2008 @ 17:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
would i benefit from using one of those firegl workstation cards for cad/3dsmax? as i won't be doing alot of gaming.

is slightly over budget but would this be any better than the hd3850, and also compatible with the suggested setup?

http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=680828
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22. August 2008 @ 17:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'll be honest, Workstation GPUs aren't really my area, I don't know how powerful they are.



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oh right, i'm trying to research them now with no joy. It seems like they are mainly for cad and desktop cards are for gaming??

would you know if it was compatible with the motherboard & psu?
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22. August 2008 @ 17:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's correct. I see no reason why it wouldn't be compatible with your PSU and motherboard.



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ok, i'll see if i can find out anything else about it. However, I always got the impression that the processor and the ram were the main thing to concentrate on when 3d rendering/animation.
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22. August 2008 @ 18:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I suppose i will have a similar setup to this user if i use the firegl v3600:

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/684023


...my only concern is that alot of people are using 450w, 500w, 650w psu's etc. Are they just being over-cautious or should i be going for a higher wattage also?
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22. August 2008 @ 18:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
high end workstation cards uses a lot of power. the v3600 requires a 350w power supply. but if you step up to the v8600, that's when you'll need 650w or higher.

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22. August 2008 @ 19:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by cee43ja1:
high end workstation cards uses a lot of power. the v3600 requires a 350w power supply. but if you step up to the v8600, that's when you'll need 650w or higher.
oh right, would you recommend the firegl v3600 or should i just stick with the hd3850?

(I've posted another thread about it : http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/694817 )
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23. August 2008 @ 10:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think i'm just going to go for the hd3850 and see how it goes. (as I've already said, I think the only thing the graphics card will effect is when working/modelling in the viewports and apparently the end product rendering should only rely on the cpu and ram)

Sorry for all the questions, but before I buy the hd3850; I want to know why the price difference is so little between the 256mb and the 512mb i have found:

256MB HiS (HighTech) Radeon HD3850 PCI-E (x16), 1656 MHz, GDDR3, GPU 668 MHz, 320 Cores, 2x DVI-I
http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=719127




512MB PowerColor HD 3850 PCI-E2.0 1800MHz GDDR3, GPU 720MHz, 320Cores, DVI/S-Video, HDCP Pro Cooling
http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=722240





For the sake of £7 extra the 512mb version seems worth it. (or am i missing something vital here?) Yes they are different brands and they look different but does that make any difference. Has PCI-E & PCI-E2.0 got anything to do with it?(compatibility with the Mboard) Also, the 256mb version doesn't state anything about openGL in it's chipset features - whereas the 512mb does.


I'm just looking for the best value for money, which would you buy if you had to choose out of the two?
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23. August 2008 @ 10:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sorry about this, I'm getting confused now - as the hd3870 looks even better again in the same price range!

http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=848058

I must be getting something wrong, as i know nothing about graphics cards.
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23. August 2008 @ 12:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The 3870 is certainly a better card.
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23. August 2008 @ 13:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok I think i will go with the 3870 now then haha. I hope it serves well for my needs. Will it still be compatible with the mboard and 380w psu i'm using?
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i'm glad to see you found your card, most video cards use a standard power slot and a pci 2.o slot, so if one is compatible, most will be
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23. August 2008 @ 14:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, if it can run a 3850 it will probably run a 3870. It's cutting it close though.
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23. August 2008 @ 16:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am running AutoCad just fine, with my 3870. I think that recommendation is for a minimum 450W PSU.

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23. August 2008 @ 18:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've just used the psu calculator on this site:
http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine

It says i will require a 268w supply with the components i will be using. If that is right then a 380w psu should be plenty.
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..that doesn't include overclocking by the way.
 
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