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30. August 2008 @ 10:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
planning on getting this CPU but I have a question about pricing. Black Edition of this CPU costs 176 USD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLis...ame=Phenom%20X4

but the regular one costs 289 USD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103285

so whats with the insanly huge price difference between these 2 CPUs??? looking at the specs they are 100% identical
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30. August 2008 @ 10:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
They are both black editions. The cheaper one is retail and the more expensive one is OEM. This is so weird. Just a price discrepancy on newegg's part. I would get the 180 dollar one if you already have a AM2+ motherboard. Otherwise I would get a Intel Q6600.
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30. August 2008 @ 10:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I assume you already have an AM2+ motherboard? Because if you don't, I'd obviously recommend the intel route.

As for the OEM CPU being more expensive, newegg still have the price from when the Phenom 9950 was originally introduced, so just ignore it, there's no benefit to the extra hundred dollars.



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30. August 2008 @ 10:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
in the specs it says its just Phenom 9950 while in the other it says black edition in the OEM one

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30. August 2008 @ 10:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103273
Says black edition for this one too...
The Black edition chips are the better ones, as they do overclock, just - among being slower, they're also consume astronomical amounts of power compared to the Intels too, so make sure you have a very good cooler, case ventilation and power supply.



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I dont have an AM2+ mobo, only AM2 -_- so I should just go with intel then???
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Yes, you'll need a new board anyway to use these chips, so you may as well 'do the job properly' so to speak. Assuming you have reasonable performance memory (PC5400 or faster) then I'd recommend either:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128344

or the same latter two components but with this chip instead, depending on whether you can afford the extra:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115042

I know I'm picking CPUs that already include coolers, but the ones included are naff. The reason I'm picking retail versions is they have longer warranties.



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well I might go with the Q9450 but not too sure yet...300 bucks is a bit pricey but is it worth it??? I can upgrade my RAM then too, right now I have DDR2 800. my CPU cooler i have right now is an Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro and I have Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound so would that be good enough?? im also getting a Radeon HD 4870 then so would a 650W Corsair power supply suffice for this system???

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In my humble opinion, not really. I would go with the Q6600. The Q9450 is a bit better, but not an extra hundred dollars better, if you know what I mean, so I tend to recommend those to those who have a large budget.
Your cooler will be the Freezer 64 Pro which isn't compatible with the intel platform. The Freezer 7 Pro is ironically the same cooler, but with the appropriate mounting method to attach it to an Intel system.
Your RAM is fine, and you have chosen an excellent graphics card. A 650W Corsair PSU would be ideal for this lot.



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30. August 2008 @ 12:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
alright well I guess ill just go with the Q6600 then and Ill get the Freezer 7 Pro cooler and that mobo you suggested. thank you for your help
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30. August 2008 @ 12:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No problem.



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If you can stretch for this CPU cooler it will help a lot with overclocking...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835154001
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yea i plan on doing some OCing but how much could I OC with that processor with that cooling fan??

well according to the 1 review on newegg

"Keeps my Q6600 about 15c cooler compared to the Arctic Freezer 7 Pro that i had before."

im half tempted to just stick it in a mini fridge or something to keep it cool so i dont have to worry at all about over heating lol

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30. August 2008 @ 17:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Far enough. :)



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31. August 2008 @ 01:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh and don't stick it in a fridge, that wont work ;)
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31. August 2008 @ 11:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Indeed, rather like the 'xbox 360 towel mod' - it worked for someone, but that doesn't mean it will work for everyone.



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No it wont work because a fridge can't cool continuously. When you put stuff in a fridge it cools it down to whatever temperature, then it only has to keep it there. That's not a lot of work.

With a computer, it NEVER cools to a good temperature. It keeps on PUTTING OUT heat. Eventually(few days) your fridge will just break from the strain.
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31. August 2008 @ 12:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So you're meant to run the drive in a fridge? LOL I thought you were just meant to put it in there to bend the drive heads and then stick it back in the PC afterwards to use!



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What drive? I was talking about the computer.

My last post.
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31. August 2008 @ 16:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh, my bad, I'm confusing threads again. I thought you meant sticking a dead HDD in a fridge - you certainly couldn't run a PC in there! For a start there's too much moisture...



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