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Wall-E & Prince Caspian - both ripped fine but the burnt discs skip around
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jryotas
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4. December 2008 @ 10:28 |
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I have some across 2 movies we have recently tried to back up . One is Wall-e and the other is Narnia 2 . Both movies decrypt fine and during analyzing the preview shows fine but when we burn the disc and try and play it , it skips around . The chapters are in numerical order but some how during the disc burn , the movie got all mixed up . The weirder thing is that the wall-e disc will play correctly in my comp dvd drive but not my ps3 or any other dvd players we have , but the narnia 2 disc wont even play correctly in my comp dvd drive . I used ripit4me with dvd decrypter and dvd shrink in between and like i said , when shrink analizes it , it plays fine but sometime after that it gets messed up . I have also tried nero and got the same results .
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4. December 2008 @ 11:21 |
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Do you have DVD Shrink set to burn with Nero?
Is that the process you're using?
99% of all problems are between the computer and the chair.
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4. December 2008 @ 11:27 |
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there are many reasons why a burned disk won't play properly..... but the main reason is poor quality blank media being used..... here are other reasons why you are having playback problems:
1. burning speeds: burn at 4x so there will be less writing errors (rule of thumb is to burn at half the rated speed of the disk--8X disk burn at 4x).
2. read manual for your stand alone player and use the disks that will play in your player. If your player is less than 2 yrs old then it should play the + or - R disks! I said SHOULD that's why you read the manual.
3. try booktyping your drive to DVd-ROM so it will make your +R disks more compatible to players. Read this:
http://k-probe.com/bitsetting-booktype-faq.php
4. make sure that there are no finger prints or scratches on your disk that make it hard for the player to read the disk!
*******5. use good quality media (rule of thumb....buy the ones that are Made in Japan.)Taiyo Yuden is the only brand I use! Verbatim is also top notch disk and is the only exception to this rule....some Verbatims are made in Taiwan and they are top notch! Using quality media that is most recognized by players/recorders stop MANY problems like the ones you are getting!
6. and don't burn too close to the outer edge of the disk ..... which will make the disk unreadable! but using good media you will be able to burn close to the edge better than lesser quality media. Just in case I only burn no closer than 4400MB, so if you can set your programs to that, all the better!
follow these little tips of the trade and you'll have better success! good luck.
also read this:
http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/Why-DVDRW-is-superior-to-DVD-RW/
why the +R media is better than the -R media
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jryotas
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4. December 2008 @ 12:05 |
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I have shrink setup to use decrypter to burn but have tried it with nero as well and i am using the same media i have always used with no problems . I have it set to burn usually at 4x but i have even tried these at 1x and same issue . This setup has always worked flawlessly for me and just recently with these two have i had issues , other discs still copy fine . Though it may have had something to do with new disney encryption or something like that .
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AfterDawn Addict
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4. December 2008 @ 12:13 |
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If your files play correctly on your computer, close all programs and burn with ImgBurn.
99% of all problems are between the computer and the chair.
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5. December 2008 @ 00:40 |
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it skips around, and : The weirder thing is that the wall-e disc will play correctly in my comp dvd drive but not my ps3 or any other dvd players
this is due to poor quality media that you are burning to! Wall-e does not have any encryptions that aren't broken by the software.... I didn't do Narnia 2 yet but if there was something new it would have been posted all over the forums! Skipping and playback issues are due to poor media being used! I can practically guarantee that if your computer can play the ripped files fine then it's a burned to issue! Most likely it's a media problem or your burner going bad (which I doubt) or you are not following the safe burning rules (which you say you do). So try using Verbatim (the ones made in Tawain) or Taiyo Yuden and watch your playback issues go away.
Don't get fooled by spindles of lower class or poor quality media. What used to work before may not work now due to the fact that many manufacturers outsource their media to different factories and therefore you can't rely on the same quality of media in a full spindle. There might be 3 different factories that made disks in that one spindle and the quality control could be the difference in playback issues!
change your media to better and watch your issue go away.
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Joleca
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5. December 2008 @ 07:39 |
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OK, I'm still a newbie and I'm surprised the experts didn't catch this..
Both Wall-E and Narnia 2 are loaded with some of the newer advanced encryptions and other "crap". Rip It 4 Me and DVD Decrypter are both great programs but neither has been updated or supported in several years.. so they aren't able to handle the newer encryptions on these discs.
There are 2 programs that are constantly updated to handle all the newer encryptions.. One is AnyDVD and the other is DVDFab HD Decrypter. Both have free trials.. AnyDVD gives you 21 days with full program access.. DVD Fav defaults to a limited free edition after the trial, but the free version will still handle decrypting your DVD.
With AnyDVD, if the status window shows "structural protection" you will want to use the built in ripper function to rip to your hard drive before using Shrink (Shrink can't handle structural protection". If not found, then once AnyDVD processes the disc, you should be good to go with Shrink.
With DVD Fab, you will need to rip to your hard drive (and possibly use FixVTS or VobBlanker before proceeding with Shrink.
With both programs, instead of telling Shrink to "open DVD", you'll tell it to "open files" and select the folder you had the ripped files placed in.. From there, you should be good to go using Shrink as you normally would.
Again, I'm still a newbie and I'm sure if I got any of the procedure wrong, one of the experts will be more than happy to step in and correct any mistakes I've made.
Good Luck!!!
Originally posted by jryotas:
One is Wall-e and the other is Narnia 2 .
I used ripit4me with dvd decrypter and dvd shrink in between and like i said , when shrink analizes it , it plays fine but sometime after that it gets messed up . I have also tried nero and got the same results .
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jryotas
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5. December 2008 @ 08:47 |
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Thanks bro ,, i was certain it was not a media issue as these were the only disc's i have had problems with lately and i do alot of this so i was sure it was some kind of new encryption issue . I will start tring to use dvd fab .. One thing though , do i need the newest version of dvd fab cuz i read somewhere that one of the older versions worked better .
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5. December 2008 @ 10:26 |
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you newbies make me laugh! so stubborn. Quote:
i was certain it was not a media issue as these were the only disc's i have had problems with lately and i do alot of this
hate to burst your bubble......... AnyDVD and DVDFab keep up with all the new encryptions.... it's a fact. so encryptions are not the problem... it's the media used. I have been doing this for years..... and after more than 4 thousand rips..... I know when it's a media problem or not. It is your media and you can upgrade to AnyDVD or DVDFab Platinum (which is a good idea because these seem to be the easiest programs to use and kept up to date! and soon AnyDVD won't even give you free upgrades! so you better think about buying it soon.) if you don't change your media it will be hit or miss with skipping and other players not able to play your burned disk. by the way.... what does your media code out to? Use DVDIdentifier to find out:
http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/
use it and check out the Manufacture name
using quality media will stop your problem..... but don't believe me... just keep floundering as you've been doing! what do I know! After thousands upon thousands upon thousands upon thousands of burns I can't recognize a problem when I seen it before for myself. I don't know why I even bother to respond to newbies anymore. Geeeeeez why do I even put myself out there trying to help others ... maybe it's because I learned everything here and just wanted to give back... but being ignored and dismissed by someone who just thinks it's encryptions.... here's another rule: if you can rip it to the hard drive and it works fine then you can burn it to a disk and it will work fine, unless you burn it to an inferior disk of no quality in it's manufacturing! But what do I know? Quote:
it skips around and will play correctly in my comp dvd drive but not my ps3 or any other dvd players
is definitely a media problem and I don't care what you say... IMHO.... and I know many other members will tell you, it's a media problem.
you don't even mention what media you use. so what's the big secret? what do you use?
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jryotas
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5. December 2008 @ 11:11 |
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I am willing to believe that i may have a media issue with wall-e ,, but not with narnia 2 as it will not even play correctly in my comp . I will try and find some verbatim media and try and start using those . Thanks for all the replies guys .
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Joleca
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5. December 2008 @ 11:12 |
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IHoe
never said it wasn't the media, but if you read jryotas' original post he/she wasn't using DVDFab.. but Rip It 4 Me, Shrink and DVD Decrypter (Lightning UK's older software). Just seemed that what was used, wasn't able to handle the newer releases so maybe encryption was a problem.. For me, I'm using AnyDVD & DVDFab and update as soon as a new version is out (matter of fact I just updated DVDFab to 5.2.0.5 just before I typed this. ;)
Originally posted by IHoe:
you newbies make me laugh! so stubborn. Quote:
i was certain it was not a media issue as these were the only disc's i have had problems with lately and i do alot of this
hate to burst your bubble......... AnyDVD and DVDFab keep up with all the new encryptions.... it's a fact. so encryptions are not the problem... it's the media used.
and jryotas,
I always update to the newest versions as soon as I find out they've been released.. Most of the time the new releases are issued to deal with the newer problems... Someone might have had success with an earlier version dealing with one particular title, but there are most likely many it wouldn't be able to handle, so yes, I'd use the newest ones out there.
Originally posted by jryotas:
One thing though , do i need the newest version of dvd fab cuz i read somewhere that one of the older versions worked better .
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lungfish
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6. December 2008 @ 17:50 |
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Wall-E does have some unusual protection - DVDDecrypter found 66 main titles on the disc - tried a full disc copy & was prompted with insufficient hard drive space - apparently the dvd contains 86GB of data on it!!! DVDFab free version ripped it fine though!
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8. December 2008 @ 18:22 |
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you just can't expect DVDDecrypter to do NEW DVDs! That program hasn't been updated in over 3 yrs now!!! gezzzzzzzz DVDFab HD Decrypter is constantly updated! Now if you use DVDFab and you still have skipping, pixelation, freezing then it's a MEDIA PROBLEM....... and you guys never answered the question, "what media are you using?!"
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lungfish
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8. December 2008 @ 18:38 |
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Sorry wasn't tryin to be awkward just pointin out that Wall-E does have some unusual protection on it... :) Could you cast your expert eyes on my mummy thread in newbie forum plzz
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maccafan
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11. December 2008 @ 15:15 |
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I was trying to get Wall-E to cooperate with RipIt4Me but had no luck so I came here for help. I'm really glad that I did! I downloaded DVDFab and it worked like a dream! Faster than I expected, too. Thanks so much for the information :)
All the best,
Mary
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d2west
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29. December 2008 @ 02:38 |
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I've been ahving problems with Narinia 2 as well. I was given the DVD for Christmas but would like to decrypt it to then recode it using nero and back it up on my ipod. However, I can't even get it to rip. (This is the latest version of Narnia 2 - would that make a difference on the encryption?)
Basically what happens is the under the properties of the DVD drive it shows the size of the DVD to be 7+GBs (DL). But when I explore the VIDEO_TS Folder its properties are a whoping 72+GBs!!! How is that possible?! I realized that many of the VOBs are repeated.
When I tried ripping it using DVD Fab it just kept ripping all night and filled up my hard Drive! When I tried converting the relevant VOBs to .mpgs - they wouldn's convert. I also noticed that the first VOB file of the main movie was without sound (on all the repeats).
Is there a way to rip this using other software? Would AnyDVD or DVDFab HD work? I am hesitant to put down money for something that won't rip. I've never heard of this problem.
D2West
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Joleca
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29. December 2008 @ 08:07 |
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If you've never used AnyDVD before, you can try out on their 21-day free trial... (fully functional).. Would recommend you do so quickly though... If you decide you like it (and there's nothing NOT to like), you'll want to buy it by Wednesday (the 31st) to take advantage of their current free updates for life policy.. If you wait till Thursday (the 1st of next year), you'll be subject to the new annual subscription fee for updates. Got mine not too long ago and best purchase I've ever made!!!
Originally posted by d2west:
Would AnyDVD or DVDFab HD work? I am hesitant to put down money for something that won't rip. I've never heard of this problem.
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ute4movie
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4. January 2009 @ 23:05 |
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Finally I was able to rip Wall-E and encode to AVI.
1. Started the DVD player on my PC.
2. Inserted DVD into drive.
3. Began playing it on my PC.
4. Started AnyDVD 6.4.9.0
5. While movie was still playing, clicked on Copy DVD.
6. AnyDVD found were the movie was located on the DVD and ripped
it successfully. If i recall correctly the movie was #7
among the many false titles.
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term123
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6. January 2009 @ 09:37 |
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Hi - found this thread very timely. I had the same issues with Narnia 2 - ripped ok with DVDFAB, etc but the burned copy skipped (tried twice with Shrink and Decryptor and then right from the VOBs using Burnaway just to see if it would play straight => the first VOB did, but the others did not have any sound). Never had any problem before with my DVDs, always stick to Verbatim.
Anyway, followed IHoe's advice to check the DVD with DVDIdentifier and the Manufacturer is Mitsubishi FW 1.02. So it seems to fit the bill of a quality Japan-made disk, but still the problems.
Any suggestions? Maybe one can correct the IFO or BUP files?
thanks,
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