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rmadsen
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7. December 2008 @ 23:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have a dvd I would like to rip, but do *not* want it decrypted; I want the distorted image look shown at the top of http://www.weethet.nl/english/video_ripdvdtodisk.php. I tried using the "don't decrypt" option in SmartRipper, but the mpeg file was size 0 after waiting 12 hours for a portion of the dvd to rip. I got a .d2v, .idx, and .lst, but the mpeg is still size 0. Does this option not do what I think it does? Did I do something else wrong?
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8. December 2008 @ 20:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Have you tried simply dragging the VIDEO_TS folder off the disk onto the desktop.



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8. December 2008 @ 21:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the reply. Can I ask what operating system are you using, and how do you play the file back?

And I should have also stated that I have tried this (with either the single .vob file or with the entire folder) and on Mac OS X 10.3 and windows XP, both give me copy errors which state that I don't have permission to alter/change/copy those files. So how are you "dragging and dropping" to get that image?
thanks for any help you can give!

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 8. December 2008 @ 22:03

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9. December 2008 @ 06:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm using XP and I simply dragged the folder - but I'm getting the same error as you if I wait long enough.
The disk I used has VTS_06 as the main title.
As soon as it gets to that file, the error kicks in.
I just didn't wait long enough.
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9. December 2008 @ 11:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just out of curiosity, why would you want a copy of the original, but with the encryption?


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9. December 2008 @ 14:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
^^I'm curious as well.^^


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9. December 2008 @ 15:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
1) For an art project I am working on because
2) it used to be so common to find software that "didn't work," but now - despite the millions of dollars spent by MPAA/RIAA - it's VERY hard to NOT crack a DVD.

again, I'm begging all of you to help me with this. I still can't find a way to do it.
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9. December 2008 @ 21:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I find that if I use the old DVD Decrypter, and turn off CSS checking, I can get this effect.

I ripped the files from 'Master and Commander' and reauthored a small section with DVD Shrink and burned to disk.
The disk plays back on the standalone and shows the screen pixelization and audio breakup that you would expect.

The same disk played on the PC with VLC shows the same.
Oddly, if the files are played from the folder on the hard drive, VLC shows a clear picture and sound???

I loaded the files into Virtualdub and saved it as an AVI.




Ten seconds of AVI here.
http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2jer95x&s=4

Edited for clarity.

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10. December 2008 @ 18:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
How old of a version of DVD decrypter were you using? I have a version circa 2002 at a friends house, but today I downloaded the current 3.5.4 version and used it. I copied over the video_ts folder to my hard drive, using the settings you recommended. When I attempt to play it using PowerDVD the image freezes and the audio sounds stuttered, which leads me to believe that this is a step in the right direction.

However, I am a bit unclear on the next step you took. Virtualdub can't open the .vob files directly (in order to convert them), so are you saying you burned the video_ts to a DVD and then recopied the files over? I'm just trying to find the best way to get the scrambled picture to a format I can edit (AVI, MOV, etc). Quicktime is preferred, but not required. If burning it and then using handbrake to re-capture is a good option, what do you recommend for burning the video_ts folder I have on my hard drive?

Thanks for this last reply, attar. You are truly a genius and have really helped me a great deal.

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10. December 2008 @ 19:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't know anything about Quicktime, but VirtualDub (with the MPEG-2 plugin) will load the vob files in their entirety.
The movie can then be edited, using the slider and flags and saved as AVI (Video' => 'Compression' - select codec).

The ripped, VIDEO_TS folder on the hard drive, can be burned with 'Imgburn'.

The link to the program also has a guide for burning a DVD folder.

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/cdr_so...ols/imgburn.cfm


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12. December 2008 @ 06:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Note that VirtualDub can load the movie direct from the encrypted DVD disk.
Since it is still encrypted, the video and audio will be scrambled, but it can be edited and saved as AVI (if a suitable compressor is selected).

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 12. December 2008 @ 06:40

rmadsen
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13. December 2008 @ 12:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
attar - I've tried using virtual dub, and it works great. However, it makes MASSIVE size files. I thought AVI was a compressed format? Why does one of the seven 1 GB .vob turn into a 21 GB avi? I can't manage 140 GBs from one 8 GB disk. What is the compressor you use with virtualdub? or have I just not found the settings yet in virtual dub for maximizing compression?

thanks so much for your help. This is truly turning out great.

FYI, I also tried to export the MPEG2 .vob files with quicktime pro player using their 20$ mpeg2 codec. It doesn't work. Generally I get a short ways into the compression/conversion and then quicktime spits out an error.
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13. December 2008 @ 15:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
VirtualDub outputs AVI content and unless a compressor is selected you will get uncompressed (huge) files.
Select a compressor by clicking 'Video' => 'Full processing Mode' => 'Compression' and chose a codec from the list.
You can download XviD or the free edition of Divx and install them in your system.
VirtualDub will then recognize them.
An alternative is to install FFDSHOW and select it.
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