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Yamada dvx 6600
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Reform
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9. January 2005 @ 12:15 |
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I had that problem but there is a new version out recently thats less picky, unless you have then then maybe u should re enoode it,
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Reform
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9. January 2005 @ 12:15 |
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I had that problem but there is a new version out recently thats less picky, unless you have that then maybe u should re enoode it,
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martin_uk
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9. January 2005 @ 12:37 |
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I have 1.2 of mpeg mod which I think is the latest ver. The xvid's are a series (Desperate Wives) so re-encode feels like a pain :) I should have a 6700 arriving tomorrow so that may be the answer as it supports packed BS still curious though as to the cause of the error.
As an aside just bought a 6700 for £42 inc vat from Pixmania (4 of us purchased so that split the delivery and even made that reasonable!)
cheers
Martin
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martin_uk
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9. January 2005 @ 13:05 |
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to reply to myself...strange behaviour I know!
just downloaded 1.3.1 of mpeg mod from http://www.moitah.net which has relaxed the error checking so no more "No dummy N-VOP found for packed frame" errors and at last, a progress bar for loading & saving!
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Reform
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10. January 2005 @ 04:41 |
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yeah its better, needs drag and drop now
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jsbhachu
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10. January 2005 @ 04:43 |
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anyone have any idea when ogg support is coming out?
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CheersMDM
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10. January 2005 @ 09:06 |
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Been reading this thread because I have a Yamada 6600 with jerky playback. How can I correct this please? I have read the entire thread but I am having trouble following the above solution as there are a number of conversations appearing at once. Can someone advise me please in a straight forward manner? I will be ever so greatful.
CheersMDM
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fishily
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16. January 2005 @ 00:02 |
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@CheersMDM
The problem with your xvids is probably that they have packed bistream. The yamada 6600 can play divx+packed bistream+GMC+qpel, with xvid however it can only do xvid+qpel, not xvid+packed bitstream. If the bitstream is not packed then the audio is off by 1 frame, so for PAL then 25 frames per sec so off by 40 msec. Not something that mere mortals are affected by.
So the jittering with newer xvid is the yamada trying to play packed bitstream. The solution is to remove the packed bistream with Mpeg4modifier. This can be found at
http://www.moitah.net/
download the binary
It need .Net, so install it at
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=262d25e3-f589-4842-8157-034d1e7cf3a3&displaylang=en
Another useful for telling you what encoding a file has is
http://w1.261.telia.com/~u26119659/Avicheck.exe
Which will give an output like this
Total Streams: 2
Running Time: 0:44:06
Index Chunk: Yes
Interleaved: Yes
Max Bytes Per Sec: 0
AUDIO: 0 - AC3 (0x2000) --- Dolby Digital, it could say MP3
Average bitrate Per Sec: 192 kb/s --- The bitrate, with MP3 it's often 128
Samples Rate: 48000 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits Per Sample: 0
SuggestedBufferSize: 3840
Sample Size: 1
VIDEO: DIV3 --- The video type here DIVX 3, but could say XVID
B-VOP: No --- No packed bitstream
S(GMC)-VOP: No --- No GMC
QuarterPixel: No --- No Qpel
Frame Size: 512 x 384 --- The resolution, the yamada won't take above 720*576(in PAL)
Frames Rate: 25.000
Color Depth: 24
Total Frames: 66171
SuggestedBufferSize: 48548
Hopefully that helps explain lots of the previous threads.
Unofficial firmware with better subtitle support (only .srt) and better audio options is at
http://mtz.softpedia.com/
Hope that helps
Fish
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johntee50
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16. January 2005 @ 06:58 |
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Found the firmware with the updated audio setup. It's version 13. I had downloaded version 12. 13 wasn't on the site when I downloaded it, hence the confusion.
Regards to all, johntee50.
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stevefox
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16. January 2005 @ 12:57 |
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Fish, there still isn't any new firmware to correct the "border" problems with the naruto episodes I have. I still have to watch those episodes half screen because I can't see the subs. I owned a Kiss DP 1000 UMAX player before the yamada 6600 and it had this cool zoom feature where u could zoom until there was a thin black border around the screen but you had virtually perfect full screen and could see the full picture perfectly. But the Kiss Player also stretched the naruto episodes so I couldn't see the subs, but like I said, at least it had a Brilliant Zoom feature that I could adjust the picture to fit nicley onto the screen.
Shit Fish, as soon as they fix this problem or make better zoom features, PLEASE let me know, I want to watch my stuff normally again.
Thanks Fish, u r the BEST.
Laters
Foxi
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noias
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17. January 2005 @ 00:02 |
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Hi to everyone. I bought a DVD player Yamada 6600 and a surround loudspeaker system Clatronic SLS 570. I read the specifications of both, and both are ready to read DTS audio. But when i a chose that kind of audio system it doesn't work!!!
I'm serching for help!!!!
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fishily
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17. January 2005 @ 02:08 |
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@noias
Looked up the specs of your surround system and got this
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? Integrated surround sound decoder and amplifier
? Dolby® Digital Ready
? DTS Ready
? Blue LED status display integrated in the subwoofer
? Mirror lenses illuminated in blue
? Blue mains control lamp
? Infrared remote control
? 6 x RCA line-in for AC3 and DTS input
? 2 x RCA line-in Q sound
? 1 centre loudspeaker
? 2 front loudspeakers
? 2 rear loudspeakers
? 1 subwoofer
? Includes 4 loudspeaker stands
? 500-watt PMPO
? On/off switch
? Volume control
? Selector switches CD, AUX, 5.1 Channel
? Accessories: 2 m cinch cable, 30 m loudspeaker cable
? Power supply: 230 V, 50 Hz
Dolby® Digital has 3 full front channels and 2 full surround channels. Each loudspeaker (including subwoofer) is driven individually.
Surround sound works with a stereo signal (front) and 4 other channels.
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Despite saying "Integrated surround sound decoder and amplifier" I get the impression that the inputs are just analogue and you are using the yamada's decoder.
To the best of my knowledge (and I would be very happy if someone tells me I'm wrong) the yamada will only decode a dolby digital (AC3) signal to the 6 analogue outs. A DTS signal is outputted to the digital. The vast majority of dvd players with decoders built in operate this way due to licensing fees. My old cybehome was the same, DD decoding but 'pass thru' on DTS. Even my old Samsung which had no built in decoder at all had the DTS logo on it because it could send the DTS signal to a receiver to decode.
As you know it is part of the spec for DVDs that they have to have a DD soundtrack on the disk, the trouble is some DTS releases only have a DD 2.0 as backup.
So either buy a decoder/amplifier/receiver capable of DTS decoding or stick to disks with DD 5.1 tracks or disks with DTS and make sure they also have DD 5.1.
Like I said, if someone could tell me they the above is incorrect, I would be very happy to find out the decoder will decode DTS.
Cheers
Fish
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baldrick
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17. January 2005 @ 04:29 |
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Hi Fish!
I guess you could be right on track, because I have already tried playing a DTS audio on Yamada (I have no surround receiver, just good old Yamaha stereo amp.) and all I got was sound like I remember from good old days of ZX Spectrum and Commodore 64 - or maybe an analogue modem sound (chrssshhzhsssssiiiieeeeeekszrkhsshhhh) and I gave up without further investigating this matter. But your explanation sound good...
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fishily
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17. January 2005 @ 06:56 |
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Quote:
good old days of ZX Spectrum
Ah, Jet Set Willy. The good old days.
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micol
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19. January 2005 @ 01:18 |
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Hi all, Newbie here.
I've just read this entire thread as I have a sound but no picture problem. A few people wrote of similar problems but there was never really any answers of what to do to resolve this. I thought It would be to do with the frame size as one is 960 x 528. But the other file is 640 x 256 and still plays sound but no picture??
Here is the avicheck info:
avi1:
Total Streams: 2
Running Time: 2:12:38
Index Chunk: Yes
Interleaved: Yes
Max Bytes Per Sec: 0
AUDIO: 0 - AC3 (0x2000)
Average bitrate Per Sec: 448 kb/s
Samples Rate: 48000 Hz
Channels: 5
Bits Per Sample: 0
SuggestedBufferSize: 28000
Sample Size: 1
VIDEO: XVID
B-VOP: Yes
S(GMC)-VOP: No
QuarterPixel: No
Frame Size: 640 x 256
Frames Rate: 25.000
Color Depth: 24
Total Frames: 198957
SuggestedBufferSize: 149922
avi2:
Total Streams: 2
Running Time: 0:42:04
Index Chunk: Yes
Interleaved: Yes
Max Bytes Per Sec: 0
AUDIO: 0 - AC3 (0x2000)
Average bitrate Per Sec: 384 kb/s
Samples Rate: 48000 Hz
Channels: 6
Bits Per Sample: 0
SuggestedBufferSize: 24000
Sample Size: 1
VIDEO: XVID
B-VOP: Yes
S(GMC)-VOP: No
QuarterPixel: No
Frame Size: 960 x 528
Frames Rate: 23.976
Color Depth: 12
Total Frames: 60535
SuggestedBufferSize: 156868
Can anyone help?? As I really would like to watch these files!!
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fishily
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19. January 2005 @ 22:42 |
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@micol
As you know the 960*whatever won't play because the resolution is too high. Looks like one of the HR tv rips to me. The 640*whatever file, is a strange one, if you give us the file-name then we could probably find out a bit more.
Fish
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fishily
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19. January 2005 @ 22:51 |
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Just saw the length of the lower resolution file is that of a fairly hefty film (over 2 hours). Is it opendml file? Is it over 2 gig.
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baldrick
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19. January 2005 @ 22:52 |
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Or you can always go the other way - get some DIVX or XVID conversion program (DrDIVX would do, but is time limited or something) and recode files to resolution and format that plays. Takes time but I did it couple of times.
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fishily
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19. January 2005 @ 22:53 |
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@micol
Use GSpot to check if it is opendml
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micol
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20. January 2005 @ 00:16 |
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Thanks for your responses.
Fishily; The movie is Master & Commander. I don't know if it is opendml and I'm at work at the moment so can't check. I'll check later & let you know.
I have resised the first one to 512x288 and it now plays fine!
Baldrick; The only problem with Dr.Divx is that I will loose my AC3 audio as it always changes it to mp3
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fishily
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20. January 2005 @ 00:32 |
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@micol
If the avi2 is a tv eps, in future don't download the 700 meg AC3 version just the normal 350 meg version. It's the best way to be honest.
Fish
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micol
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20. January 2005 @ 01:29 |
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Too Late Fishily! I've just finished dowloading all 13 episodes!! (Doh!). Mind you I much prefer the AC3 sound. I'm beginning to wonder if it is worth all this hassle though.
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baldrick
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20. January 2005 @ 01:45 |
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I have used TMPGEnc to change DIVX or XVID files, change the audio interleave (I had problems with crazy interleaves when computer digests it, but Yamada doesn't), but you have to have proper codecs (xvid and divx) installed. You can also extract audio (MP3 or AC3) and many other things. But you have to play a bit and a strong computer HELPs! See guides on this site.
Good luck!
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fishily
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20. January 2005 @ 04:39 |
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I would use VirtualDub to recode the 960xwhatever files then. Use the direct stream copy for the audio this will leave your AC3 track intact. For the video, use the filter resize and full stream processing with either xvid or divx. Change the resolution to the max support by the 6600 if you are going to make another 700meg file. I would not suggest making a 350 meg file with AC3 but your do get some groups releasing 350 meg file with AC3 but your mileage will vary. Use the bitrate calculator making sure you input the correct length of the episode, the rate audio bitrate (448 or whatever) and the size you want to make.
by my recogning the episode you listed there would be
Video 2342 kbits
Audio 384 kbits
to make a 700 meg file
If it crashes on multipass try a single pass. Obviously multi would be better, but hey.
Fish
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micol
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20. January 2005 @ 23:23 |
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Thanks Fishily.
I've used Virtual Dub and kept the AC3. I've had a few mixed results with the finished quality though. I've decided now that I'm just going to scrap the files I have and go for the HDTV-LOL versions instead!
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