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5. April 2004 @ 19:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Using dvd decrypter, dvd2one, & CopyToDVD, I have no luck burning the Seabiscuit DVD program. Decryption works with no problems, burning is fine, but when played on a DVD player to a TV set, the burned copy pauses, starts, pauses, starts, and then quits! This happens around track 22 or so on Seabiscuit. On The Lion King, I can't even get as far as decrypting the original DVD with some type of file error. I know these are both 2 layer DVD's and I'm going to a one layer DVD.

Please help. Thank you.

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5. April 2004 @ 19:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This has all the symtoms of bad media...what are you using?



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I'm using DVD Shrink 3.1 and I can burn Seabiscuit and don't get any errors. I play it on my computer using Power DVD and it plays fine. However, it's when I play it on my DVD player hooked up to my TV when I sometimes have the pausing, restarting, and then completely quitting. That is issue #one.

Issue #2 is when I use DVD Shrink 3.1 on The Lion King. I go through it, pick out the Main Movie and use the automatic compression feature. Then I go to the Extras and use the custom compression making the percentage as low as possible. I then go to the Menus and the Unreferenced and also use the custom compression making the percentage as low as possible. I only use the the AC3 5.1-ch English for audio, but I have it in there twice. Do I need to get rid of one of those - they are the same size and appear identical on the screen in DVD Shrink 3.1?

The error I get after starting he Backup for The Lion King process is this: Failed to Read file
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F:\
Data error(cyclic redundancy check)

What does that mean - am I trying to backup something that is the same, twice? DVD Shrink then just stops and that's as far as I can get.

Lastly, isn't DVD Shrink supposed to automatically burn the DVD after it goes through the backup process? I have to use the CopyToDVD program to actually do the burning process. I tried a free download of Nero, but I couldn't get it to burn what I saved on my computer. Maybe there is a place wher i can get directions for burning using Nero???

Sorry for all he questions and information, but I sure do appreciate all your help. Thanks.

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6. April 2004 @ 04:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Right , I will start off by telling you that you could have answered fastfrank's question about media (as it could well be this that might be the problem)
Princo (crap) , Bulkpaq (crap) , Datawrite/Datasafe (crap) ... shall I continue ?

The free demo version of Nero is restrictive , if you want/have to go free burning app then grab DVD Decrypter & use that to burn ISO output from DVD Shrink ;P)


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You will need to be using DVD Shrink 3.17 <---
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Cyclic redundancy errors are generally caused by scratched or dirty discs, something is preventing the DVD from being read properly.
Cyclic redundancy checks are performed during the write process as an error correction scheme. Simply put, a number derived from the data on the disc is compared to another number and is used to verify uncorrupted data.
As far as skipping, freezing then eventual failure that's a media problem, Also make sure your DVD player is compatable with your media format. My PS2 would play +R media but it would skip and freeze sometimes. Most newer DVD players can play both formats.
Selecting audio using Shrink:
Once the movie is done analyzing, right click on the preview window, a menu appears. Use this menu to start and stop the preview, change the view to full screen, and listen to different audio tracks.
By clicking on "audio" another menu appears with all the available audio tracks on it, the track being played will have a check mark next to it. Just select different tracks to listen to.
Once you figure out which one you want, tick the corresponding box on the right side of the screen, under "audio".



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6. April 2004 @ 20:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
fasfrank, herbsman, and all others contributing to my email thread:

Thanks very much for your input. After decrypting The Lion King with DVD Decrypter and burning it with the new directions I received for Nero, I burned the DVD with success with a successful full validity check. I then played it on my dvd player hooked up to my TV, and it played the entire DVD without any hitches, so it was completely successful.

Now, I have to try and burn Seabiscuit the same way and see how it turns out. I'll give it a try and then play it on my dvd player connected to my TV and see if it plays completely as well. I sure hope so.

By the way, I used Sony DVD+R discs to do The Lion King and I'll try Sony discs for Seabiscuit as well.

herbsman, I didn't think DVD Decrypter would actually do the burn process. How does one accomplish the burn with DVD Decrypter? I used DVD Decrypter to decrypt the DVD's, but after that I didn't think I could do anything else with that program. Oh yes, I did use DVD Shrink 3.16 to do what I have done so far. I think I'm getting confused in my mind what programs I used and what worked??? Also, I downloaded DVD Shrink 3.17, but I haven't had a chance to unzip the files and use the program, but I will do that real soon.

More input and suggestions and tips will be greatly appreciated if fasfrank and/or herbsman have any more words of wisdom to tell me and teach me. Thank you very, very much for all you have told me so far.

Sincerely,
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7. April 2004 @ 05:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well seeing as you're so polite , how could I refuse (lol).
As to DVD Shrink trc , I don't use it myself (as I prefer DVD2One) but in the latest version 3.17 you have an option to create an .ISO as output...this is what DVD Decrypter can burn for you mate.

DVD Decrypter should burn any ISO file , as I do a ISO Read > ISO Write w/ DVD Decrypter to copy PS2 game(s)...

If you have a DVD-Video that is under 4.36Gb , you can simply do as above - ISO Read > ISO Write.

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7. April 2004 @ 18:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
herbsman, thanks for the latest email message/reply. I tried using DVD2One and burned with CopyToDVD as it said it would in the DVD2One process, but I didn't have much luck with a successful burn of Seabiscuit or The Lion King. Maybe I didn't do something right???

I did use DVD Shrink 3.17 to start out the process with Seabiscuit and also The Lion King. I then used a free trial copy of Nero to actually do the burn, since that's what DVD Shrink prompted me to do. Of all the programs and combinations I tried for those two DVD's, that was the only combination that would work successfully for me thus far. Perhaps, as I said previously, I was doing something wrong when using DVD2One, and DVDWizard in which I haven't been able to find the PLAY button mentioned in some directions/instructions I downloaded, hence I couldn't continue with the overall process. Perhaps you are familiar with that program?

I do know that I bought DVDXCopy Platinum edition and tried using it to back-up both Seabiscuit and The Lion King and never did have any success. I used what they called TDF's for each of the DVD movies, but still didn't have any success with final burns that would play on dvd players hooked up to TV's. I wouldn't recommend DVDXCopy Platinum right now to people who are trying to burn a 2 layer DVD. Using DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink or CopyToDVD or DVD2One and Nero would be my recommendation to people who are trying to duplicate 2 layer DVD's. I haven't tried to duplicate a 1 layer DVD as of yet, but I would imagine I could use the same process???

Do you have any of your words of wisdom and knowledge for trying to duplicate 1 layer DVD's and what programs or methods to use? Maybe using DVD Decrypter would be used to burn an ISO file? Does it work on discs other than for PS2 games?

Also, I would like to ask you one more direct question, if I may. You said that DVD Decrypter would burn a file - do you mean it will actually write it to a blank DVD+R disc after decrypting the original DVD movie, or would I use another program to actually do the burning?

Thanks herbsman, once again I owe you for all the unselfish help you have offered me in this forum.


Best regards,
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7. April 2004 @ 18:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi,
Just thought I'd jump in and add my 2 cents...

You can do back ups with just DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter. No other program is needed.

After opening Shrink and letting it analyze and remove the copy protection, your next step is to select Backup! When this is selected you are then presented with a "Backup DVD" screen. The first choice you make is "Select target device". By scrolling through the three choices and selecting "ISO Disc Image", an option to "Launch DVD Decrypter to burn output stage" becomes available.

Choosing this option and selecting OK is the last thing you need to do. Shrink will encode the movie and once that has completed, will use Decrypter to burn your disc.
DVD Decrypter has the ability to burn ISO images, this is the feature Shrink uses.
DVD Decrypter can decrypt and burn a DVD-5 with no other programs being used. Shrink turns a DVD-9 into a DVD-5 ISO which lets Decrypter burn it.

Cheers,
Frank



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herbsman, I tried using DVD2One and burned with CopyToDVD as it said it would in the DVD2One process, but I didn't have much luck with a successful burn of Seabiscuit or The Lion King. Maybe I didn't do something right?

You didnt mention what you'd ripped the DVD(s) with before trying DVD2One (I use Nero to burn VIDEO_TS folder & always have so I wouldn't know about CopyToDVD mate)

DVD2One would be used after DVD files have already been ripped to HDD. And DVD2One will not burn , or compress .ISO file(s)
It is however a really nice & quick application (especially for Movie-Only back ups as I tend to do quite often , I only really bother with Full-Disk back up if it is an episode DVD.
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Do you have any of your words of wisdom and knowledge for trying to duplicate 1 layer DVD's and what programs or methods to use? Maybe using DVD Decrypter would be used to burn an ISO file? Does it work on discs other than for PS2 games?

In reply I use a quote from my last post (lol)
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If you have a DVD-Video that is under 4.36Gb , you can simply do as above - ISO Read > ISO Write.
It will soon tell you in DVD Decrypter as soon as you insert disc if it is dual/single layer etc btw...

PEACE

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7. April 2004 @ 21:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
fasfrank & herbsman,

Once again, you two are exceptional at helping me out and so thoughtful to do so. I didn't know gentlemen like you two even existed anymore! Both of you have answered some questions I had, so allow me to digest what you've said and I'll try to get back with this thread again tomorrow night (Thursday, 4-8-2004), probably after 8-9 p.m. EST in the USA. I never get much of a chance before that due to my work schedule & numerous hours worked 6 days per week.

I normally use DVD Decrypter to Rip the DVD first, and then I used DVD Shrink 3.1.7.6 for my next step in the process. I then used Nero to burn the DVD which seemed to work just fine for Seabiscuit and The Lion King. That's the only (total) process that I've had luck burning usable copies of those two DVD movies which are going from a DVD-9 to a DVD-5 movie format. As a matter of fact, I'm not aware of any other process that will work (due to my lack of experience and my laerning curve the last few days. Of course, if either one of you two have a step-by-step process that will also work, I'm gladly all ears.

Frank, I found this statement very interesting:
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You can do back ups with just DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter. No other program is needed.
The reason I say that is because after ripping with DVD Decrypter and then using DVD Shrink, I still seemed to think I had to use Nero to do the actual burning??? I guess I'm still not understanding something where burning can be done with DVD Shrink. Can you possibly give me a detailed, step-by-step procedure to follow for burning with DVD Shrink?

herbsman, you stated the following:
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It is however a really nice & quick application (especially for Movie-Only back ups as I tend to do quite often , I only really bother with Full-Disk back up if it is an episode DVD. And DVD2One will not burn , or compress .ISO file(s)
I guess I need to look at DVD2One another time to see what it will and will not do. If DVD2One will not burn , or compress .ISO file(s), then I guess I'm still puzzled as to what needs to be done and HOW to do it to the ISO file(s) for just a DVD-5 movie. I feel like I must be quite ignorant or I'm missing some basic aspect of all this concerned with ISO Read > ISO Write. Just when I think I'm getting the hang of all this, I get confused about yet another aspect involved with this ripping and burning process with DVD-5 and DVD-9 movies.

If you still have patience with my ineptness, I would appreciate more comments from both you two fine gentlemen. Once again, thank you very much for your time, patience, and your efforts in dealing with me and trying to help me out.

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7. April 2004 @ 21:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have no qualms in answering as you have been very courteous from the outset...
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You can do back ups with just DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter. No other program is needed.
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After opening Shrink and letting it analyze and remove the copy protection, your next step is to select Backup! When this is selected you are then presented with a "Backup DVD" screen. The first choice you make is "Select target device". By scrolling through the three choices and selecting "ISO Disc Image", an option to "Launch DVD Decrypter to burn output stage" becomes available.

Choosing this option and selecting OK is the last thing you need to do. Shrink will encode the movie and once that has completed, will use Decrypter to burn your disc.
I feel rest assured that fastfrank really does know what he's on about when he gives this guidance *trust*

:)



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herbsman,

I did just what you had said in the last reply message you posted. I first used DVD Shrink to analyze and remove copy protection, and then I chose BackUp and picked the ISO Disc Image with the burning option of DVD Decrypter. It worked great when I was duplicating both Finding Nemo and also Monsters, Inc. It was nice since I didn't have to use Nero and it ran very smoothly from one step to the next without me having to start any other prgram. You were great in clearing up my confusion.

fasfrank:
I guess I have you, fasfrank, to thank very much as well, since afer checking all the replies I've received, I see you are the one that initially told me about what herbsman just wrote and cleared up for me. I guess it just didn't sink in the first time for me. Sorry about that.

I'm indebted to both of you for ALL your help and patience in dealing with me and my learning process in duplicating DVD's to make back-up/archive DVD's. You two are true gentlemen and teachers that deserve recognition. I hope other people have seen this ongoing interactive thread we have had and realize what you two did for me. Perhaps if I have more questions/troubles with oher processes, I can get in touch with you two and we can communicate. I truly did enjoy this learning process with you two. Once again, thank you very much!

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Hi Again,

I know exactly what your concern is....It must seem like we are telling you to do things backwards, using Shrink first and not Decrypter.

The reason this is so is because you and many others are a bit misled by the names of the programs. It seems clear that the movie must be decrypted first, then shrunk to fit and then a burning program used to finish the process.

After using these programs dozens of times, the names become just something to click on when accessing needed features to perform specific actions.

Looking at these two programs, we can pick the features of each to burn a disc. In this case we use some features of DVD Shrink first.
1. We need the copy protection removed and Shrink can do that.
2. We need to get the thing small enough to fit on one disc, Shrink again.
3. Because the creator of Shrink is such a fine individual, he gave the newest versions the ability to create an ISO image, knowing that DVD Decrypter can burn them. While he was doing this, he gave Shrink the ability to find DVD Decrypter on your computer and start the burn for you, while you eat dinner.
4. All we need to do with Decrypter is just have it installed.

So by selecting these features we have a program capable of much more than it's name implies!

Of course if you just want Shrink to shrink your movie it can do that as well. Just as Decrypter can be used to just decrypt your movie. There are times when just these functions are needed.


BTW this is my first post reply as a Senior Member and I want to say thanks to all who have shown me the way. I am still awed by the knowledge and expertise that I find here at Afterdawn and will do my best to give back some of what I've gained here.

Cheers!
Frank



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You've been doing FINE work here at aD for quite a while fastfrank...(it hadn't gone un-noticed as I'd recommended ya for Senior *wink*).

Tom (trc) I'm glad to hear of your success w/ back up procedure my friend & would be glad to help you out if/when other questions arise :P)

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9. April 2004 @ 18:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
fasfrank

I just decided to go back and check out some of the previous messages, and I came across this one you had sent towards the beginning of the thread:
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Selecting audio using Shrink:
Once the movie is done analyzing, right click on the preview window, a menu appears. Use this menu to start and stop the preview, change the view to full screen, and listen to different audio tracks.
By clicking on "audio" another menu appears with all the available audio tracks on it, the track being played will have a check mark next to it. Just select different tracks to listen to.
Once you figure out which one you want, tick the corresponding box on the right side of the screen, under "audio".
I did what you had said to do, and I found it very interesting to say the least. This way, I can actually decide what audio tracks I need to copy(tick). I checked this out because one of the burns I made of Monsters, Inc. had some video, but there wasn't any audio. Luckily, it was just part of the beginning which was audio for some previews that was missing which wasn't any big deal. However, I did learn what audio tracks I had left out, thus making it impossible for me to hear any sound for the various previews!

Also, which program was it that allows me to see if it is a DVD-5(1 layer) or a DVD-9(2 layer) movie, and where is it that I would look to find that out? Was it in DVD Decrypter?

fasfrank and herbsman
Lastly, how does one burn just the movie and not any of the previews, introductory screens, and the ending screens and extras that may follow? In other words, if I put the burned DVD into a DVD player, I would play just the movie from start to finish and that would be it? I would imagine by doing this, the ISO file would be a lot smaller in size to burn and it would go much faster???

fasfrank, your last reply was very beneficial to me:
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Hi Again,

I know exactly what your concern is....It must seem like we are telling you to do things backwards, using Shrink first and not Decrypter.

The reason this is so is because you and many others are a bit misled by the names of the programs. It seems clear that the movie must be decrypted first, then shrunk to fit and then a burning program used to finish the process.

After using these programs dozens of times, the names become just something to click on when accessing needed features to perform specific actions.

Looking at these two programs, we can pick the features of each to burn a disc. In this case we use some features of DVD Shrink first.
1. We need the copy protection removed and Shrink can do that.
2. We need to get the thing small enough to fit on one disc, Shrink again.
3. Because the creator of Shrink is such a fine individual, he gave the newest versions the ability to create an ISO image, knowing that DVD Decrypter can burn them. While he was doing this, he gave Shrink the ability to find DVD Decrypter on your computer and start the burn for you, while you eat dinner.
4. All we need to do with Decrypter is just have it installed.

So by selecting these features we have a program capable of much more than it's name implies!

Of course if you just want Shrink to shrink your movie it can do that as well. Just as Decrypter can be used to just decrypt your movie. There are times when just these functions are needed.
fasfrank and herbsman
It is hard to believe you two were probably at one time just "newbies" like me, since it seems like you both have a vast amount of expertise when it comes to burning DVD's. Once again, I can only say thank you very much for all your help and your willingness to deal with me in this thread that I started. You two gentlemen are great! My hat goes off to both of you.

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Lastly, how does one burn just the movie and not any of the previews, introductory screens, and the ending screens and extras that may follow? In other words, if I put the burned DVD into a DVD player, I would play just the movie from start to finish and that would be it? I would imagine by doing this, the ISO file would be a lot smaller in size to burn and it would go much faster???

Easiest & best way to do Movie-Only is to use DVD2One (undeniably) !! [we'll not be going the .ISO image route this time]

In DVD Decrpyter choose File under the MODE tab & it'll show VOB / BUP / IFO that make up the DVD (such as):
A typical VIDEO_TS folder of a DVD is similar to :
VIDEO_TS BUP 16,384
VIDEO_TS IFO 16,384
VIDEO_TS VOB 43,008
VTS_01_0 BUP 77,824
VTS_01_0 IFO 77,824
VTS_01_0 VOB 1,695,744
VTS_01_1 VOB 1,073,565,696\
VTS_01_2 VOB 1,048,565,696 \ <-- This is the Main movie
VTS_01_3 VOB 1,048,565,696 /
VTS_01_4 VOB 589,365,248 /
VTS_02_0 BUP 18,432
VTS_02_0 IFO 18,432
VTS_02_0 VOB 43,008
VTS_02_1 VOB 6,014,976

You will need to manually select the main title set IFO (to accompany main movie VOBs) , which in this example is VTS_01_0 IFO 77,824 .
The main movie VOBs will be auto selected so to select IFO file hold down CTRL & click IFO with mouse pointer.
Then rip/unencrpyt !!

In DVD2One:
Select folder you ripped files to as Source & empty folder as Destination .
4472MB is usually okay for output filesize , constant compression & movie-only options...Next
Choose title set , there might only be one BUT whatever is the longest...is the film (ie; 2:09:54). If there's two the same length that is because there is 16:9 (Widescreen) AND 4:3 (Full screen) title sets [unfortunately it is down to guess work there , as it doesnt state which is which] ...Next
On the next screen I normally choose AC3 6CH (Audio) , English Subs / Angle 1...Start

When that's finished open Nero (Burning Rom) and select DVD-Video , then add files from DVD2One destination folder (whatever you named it) to red VIDEO_TS folder ... burn BABY burn !! lol
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Also, which program was it that allows me to see if it is a DVD-5(1 layer) or a DVD-9(2 layer) movie, and where is it that I would look to find that out? Was it in DVD Decrypter?

Under the MODE tab in DVD Decrypter , choose ISO read (with a disc in the drive) & in the dialogue box to the right will display layer , disc info etc etc...

Any other help needed - just holla !!

HERB



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10. April 2004 @ 19:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Herb:

Well, once again, your information and directions worked like a charm. I burned just the movie for Monsters, Inc. and it worked beautifully!

Another question came to mind. I learned that a VOB file is basically a main movie file and that an ACS-3 File is merely referring to a Dolby Digital file which is used as a standard for DVD movies. My question is, specifically what are BUP files and also what are IFO files? When I used DVD2One, I believe, it placed files into my destination folder. In that destination folder were 4 icons(files) that were colorful (VOB Files) and 4 that looked similar to desktop pictures/shots that were mostly white with "icons" on the "sheets" and they were BUP and IFO files, and they were quite small compared to the VOB files. Lastly, what is the "angle=1" referring to? Are there different angles in DVD movie recordings?

Once again, thank you, and have a nice Easter if you celebrate/observe that holiday.

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Hi Tom,

Herbsman is doing a great job helping you, He's putting a lot of effort in!

I just thought I'd help a bit...

.IFO files: (InFOrmation) These are the files that hold the navigation and application information thats needed by your DVD player to reproduce the information on your disc.

.VOB files: (Video OBject) These files hold the actual audio and video content, The .IFO file tells your player how and when to play them.

.BUP files: (BackUP) These are duplicates of the .IFO files, required by the DVD specification.

Angles: Some movies have scenes in them that are shot from different angles, etc, a different version of the same scene so to speak. This lets you choose different "angles" with your remote while watching the movie. This video content is in the .VOB file and the .IFO has the instructions for the DVD player to play the "angle" you select.
When you select an action such as changing the angle, a number is entered into a register in your DVD player. Inside the .IFO file one of the instructions will be to check the number in the register, and depending on it's value, perform a certain operation, like change to angle 2, etc.
The .IFO files act as a "director" as the DVD plays.

DVDs have a huge advantage over VHS with the ability to be played in a variety of ways, with multiple languages, different angles, parental control, chapter and scene selection, and the list goes on.
All you can do with VHS is fast forward and rewind.

Cheers,
Frank



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Frank,

Thanks for jumping in and giving me your help and input. I guess when I choose the VOB files to copy, the necessary IFO and BUP files are automatically included so I don't actually have to "choose" those support files??? That, of course, would make the entire decrypting and burning process a whole lot easier, if that is true.

Also, I guess the "angle=1" must be the "default" angle number? What would happen if I changed the angle number to, say, angle=2 or angle=3 if such angles exist? What kind of results would I get if I did that, or maybe I should just leave well enough alone and accept the "default?"

Lastly, I was wondering if you know much about a Forum here with AfterDawn about home networking and D-Link products and set-up and trouble-shooting home networks and wireless network set-ups? If I found a Forum with people as knowledgeable as you and Herb, I would benefit immensely by their knowledge in dealing with my home network system.

Just out of curiosity, are you involved with motorcycles and racing since your replies/messages have a pic of a motorcyclist and it says "motorcycle racer" in your personal information/signature file?

Once again, thank you very much for your dedicated willingness to help and all the valuable information you have given me.

Thank you,
Sincerely,
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Also, I guess the "angle=1" must be the "default" angle number? What would happen if I changed the angle number to, say, angle=2 or angle=3 if such angles exist? What kind of results would I get if I did that, or maybe I should just leave well enough alone and accept the "default?"

Yes , leave it as default (always) !! (I know you're curious but that's going to far - lol)
There's not so many films that support multi-angles anyway , although I do remember that one of the newest Star Wars films had 4 Angles ;-)

P.S. Glad to hear you grasped the Movie-Only method striaght off...

Peace - herbs

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12. April 2004 @ 18:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Tom,

Take another look at that list of files Herbsman made. All those files must be present for your DVD to play on a standalone DVD player. Some of the programs can take the .VOBS only and then add the required missing files.

If you like, here is some stuff to study:

http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/dvd.htm

http://www.pioneer.co.jp/crdl/tech/dvd/1-e.html

http://www.dvd-replica.com/DVD/index.php

You asked about the "racer" in my signature:
I'm a roadracer, You've probably seen the knee dragging thing on TV. I've been doing it for about 12 years. Just amateur stuff for trophies. We endurance race a GSXR 1000, and I do sprint racing as well. I was radared at over 175 mph during the last endurance race on the 1000. Bear in mind this is on a racetrack and not the public roads. It is dangerous, but not as much as one might think. I am also close to retiring, give the torch to the young guys.



My website- http://www.dvdplusvideo.com featuring Guides by Alkohol, bbmayo, ScubaPete and me.

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Hey there, Frank!

Thanks for the links for added reading material. It sounds interesting, but I still have a couple of other things yet to do before "retiring" in bed with my head on the pillow. As a result, I'll save that reading material until probably tomorrow night when I'm just a little bit fresher, thus, maybe I'll be able to understand some of the things I'm reading :-)

I feel like I can't possibly get too much material about all this DVD decrypting and burning. There seems to be a lot involved in the overall process which is actually very intriguing to me. Maybe someday I'll be able to master this entire process a little better than I can right now. I guess there's always hope :-)
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Some of the programs can take the .VOBS only and then add the required missing files.
I guess I really don't understand this statement in quotes. How or why do some programs only take the VOBS and how do they "add" the required missing files (which are what files - perhaps you are referring to the BUP and IFO files?

Your bike racing sounds very dangerous, especially at 175 mph and dragging the knee's at such speeds going around curves, I would imagine. Isn't that hard on the knees and the pants or racing suits? I had a roommate, years ago, who really enjoyed motorcross and endurance racing on dirt tracks and hilly countryside paths. I believe he has stopped doing it now due to his age as well.

Once again, I'd like to thank you for the added reading material and "looking out for me" so I can continue to learn about this DVD process.

Tom

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