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The Official OC (OverClocking) Thread!
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11. April 2008 @ 10:52 |
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BigDK,
You got props from my side of the pond for your ability to OC a rig. lol. docTY said you were EXTREME and he wasn't kidding!!! I'm also impressed that you haven't fried that many components considering what you do and how you do it. ;) Pretty COOL I'd say.. lol. Pun intended!!
sammyboy,
How did OC'in that E4300 work out?? As you saw cincyrob is contemplating a build for a friend with the E4500 maybe... Are they good cpus?? Sorry a little lacking on the E4x00 series chips... :)
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11. April 2008 @ 10:55 |
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Hehe, well I have a slight issue with it in my X38-DS4 but it worked fabulously in my P35 board. Overclocks from 1.8 to 3.15 with a minimal voltage increase (1.325 to 1.40) and uses very little power (77W according to Everest). Maxes at 44C under load with my Thermalright Ultra 120 and low speed case fans. Orthos puts it at about 50.
pro clockers, what do I need to set the FSB strap to in my BIOS? I've never come across this option before and there's no auto option for it. I have to choose 266,333,400, but my CPU's originally 200mhz FSB, now running at 350...
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11. April 2008 @ 11:01 |
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ATM I plan to bypass it totally, I may change my mind later if I get itchy fingers that need a newer toy, I did have the E8500 and then Q9450 on pre-order but backed out of buying when common sense kicked in for a change.
If anyone wants to give/lend me their 45nm CPU to play with then I?ll gladly take it :)
I'm trying to restrain myself and hold out until end of the year when the newer CPUs are hopefully out, but that will mean new motherboard, CPU and memory all in one go.
I certainly won't be putting any of my latest kit in the phase setup until it?s been downgraded by a newer system, CPU is the only exception as it can easily be replaced if damaged (not necessarily with a like CPU, maybe using one of my E6600s)
This DQ6 I've got now cost me £187 pre-order so I'm not ready to risk damaging it yet, wouldn?t normally pay that much but it coincided with my P5B Deluxe dying on me + I managed to put that and the Q6600 through my business so it wasn?t as big a cost as it could have been.
I bought the Commando after deciding to sell the DQ6, but after I found some memory settings in BIOS I had previously overlooked, it suddenly became a far better OC?ing board and I decided to keep it, by then the Commando had already been tampered with, and as I?d always wanted one from when they were released I decided to keep that as well.
There are those out there that simply throw money at things without a concern (credit no doubt) and then those lucky enough to get ES versions or gifts to tweak, but I have to balance my hobby with running a house and bringing up 4 Kids, my funds aren't unlimited.
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11. April 2008 @ 11:12 |
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sam, maybe caus the x38 chip runs hotter, try making your fans a little quicker....(and bare with the sound :P)
btw i can get the GA-P35C-DS3R for £45. its fully working, just without a few cables manual (which i can get from the internet) and no backplate.
what is ones opinion?
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11. April 2008 @ 11:33 |
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just make sure you get it up and running asap and stress test it.
Personally I wouldn't bother getting b-grade boards again.
So many people mess about with kit, stress it, break it and whatever and then RMA it, you don't know what your going to het.
I've had good and bad b-grades, but wouldn't buy one for my main rig.
You can get the backplates on ebay (usually from the US) still pretty cheap even with UK delivery.
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11. April 2008 @ 12:00 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
pro clockers, what do I need to set the FSB strap to in my BIOS? I've never come across this option before and there's no auto option for it. I have to choose 266,333,400, but my CPU's originally 200mhz FSB, now running at 350...
I would set it to 333 1st and then stress test it with Orthos for many long boring hours and see how that works, if you get errors try it at 400, that should handle it without any issues.
So it depends if you want to go for absolute guarantee or try and see what you can get away with, chances are the 333 will req more voltage applied, best to tinker and see what works.
The lower you can set it the better the performance will be mush like memory timings has the same effect on performance.
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11. April 2008 @ 12:00 |
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11. April 2008 @ 12:16 |
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well after a year of service i think its time i put my p5nesli out to stud, well in the htpc anyway :) the thing is im not sure what to replace it with.
i need one that can handle ddr1066+ with high fsb(500+) what do you think? o yea im still a cheap arse so.....:) not a striker extreme 2 then.
hey sam what do you think of this for temps? only fans were psu and gpu all settings were stock (ish)
thats 10 mins with fans
another 10 without
i left it running all night like that but the temps only went lower as the house got colder.
and at 3.2ghz with fans
and again with just psu and gpu fans.
ifx-14 big but cool.
the 4xxx series isnt worth it now btw, get a 7xxx.
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o this is why i need a new mobo
and i want 4ghz from it.
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11. April 2008 @ 12:18 |
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sam gonna love those p5n-e stable OCs :p
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11. April 2008 @ 13:00 |
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sam does love my p5nesli/e4300 combo :D
nah, its just luck of the draw and i know i was lucky with both, i just hope the 8200 is as responsive too.
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11. April 2008 @ 13:28 |
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Shaff: I've no reason to comment, my E4300 was stable at 3Ghz during the normal usage of my P5N-E SLI. I didn't experience the BSODs like theone did. The only problem is the board's not stable enough to install Vista (well, one of the specific devices isn't, not sure which).
I did well out of my E4300 and until the chipset failed (which I'd really say is nvidia's fault, not Asus') I did far better than most with the board.
Those are some impressive temps with a passive CPU cooler - I like! I'm surprised the chipset doesn't overheat like that. You could not just fry an egg on the heatsink for mine, but burn it!
4Ghz from an E8200 might be difficult though, because overvolt a 45nm chip and it'll go up in smoke in days. I highly doubt you'll make 4Ghz at stock voltage, it just isn't going to happen. If you want to make 4 gigs, get an E6750 or E6850. As for the board, well you know what I'm going to recommend...
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11. April 2008 @ 14:54 |
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or the E8400 / E8500
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11. April 2008 @ 14:58 |
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E8500 maybe, E8400 I'm not so sure, for the same reasons as the E8200.
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11. April 2008 @ 17:27 |
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See, I'm not the only one who likes to go for extremes in overclocking. Yet I get the weirdest when I give input. As if I'm crazy for risking it or pushing them too far. We each do what we like. No pain, no game. I dont build thee to prop on a shelf for looks. And believe me, I always have at least 4~6 back systems to fall on. Like BigDK, I like to find the limits, as long as it last to my next buil, I'm all good. Besides, I cant remember using one PC for over a yr anywayz. Thus I never had to change my TIM on daily machine. Lol!
@sammorris, CPU strap of NB! These setings also have to do with CPU to RAM divides. So if using one, you may find only one of the A,B, C, D straps to work. Of corse 400 (D for Gigibyte) is most stable, but as FSB gets up there (wich most here wont use), the DDR frequency wanted may no longer fall in this strap. So now you have to use 333. Ie, for my 500x8 in 5:6 for DDR1200, I can only use C strap of 333.
Hope that helps.
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11. April 2008 @ 17:52 |
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I chose D. So far so good...
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11. April 2008 @ 18:11 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
E8500 maybe, E8400 I'm not so sure, for the same reasons as the E8200.
well I'll let you know after my E3110 is broke in. I'm gonna shoot for 4.2ghz with 2gb memory and if all is stable I'm going to add 2gb more ram and shoot for 4.0ghz
marsey,
you might consider an asus P5E open box (if they're available across the pond anywhere) like abuzar is looking at. only $132 US. I know the rampage formula like what I just got will satisfy your needs but I'm sure it's more than you want to spend.
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11. April 2008 @ 18:49 |
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@mort
p5e is on the list along with some from giga evga and msi but a friend has offered me a nearly new p5b dlx on the cheap and i am very tempted i must say. they took the 6xxx to some very high fsb and that is what im looking for.
i even know of a member or 2 around here who have had and gotten very good results from them so....only thing is hes not a clocker so i dont know what it can do.
@paul
how hard were those vmods you did on yours?
sam the ifx is a monster mate, even the heatpipes are bigger. the gpu fan was spining @1200rpm to keep it cool so the mobo was cool too.
the hr-10 helps keep those temps down alot too, you can see it top right thru the fan.
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11. April 2008 @ 19:00 |
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marsey99,
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and i want 4ghz from it.
So how come no Orthos and CPUz for the last one? LOL!!
BTW! Didn't you have your E4300 up to 3.6GHz for a while? I know someone here did it on a P5N-E motherboard, with both an early CPU and MB!
Best Regards,
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11. April 2008 @ 19:01 |
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the IFX-14 is the cats meow, even better than the ultra 120 extreme but in most cases it has to be mounted 90 degrees from traditional with fan blowing up or down like in the pic in marseys post.
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11. April 2008 @ 20:41 |
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Originally posted by Mort81:
the IFX-14 is the cats meow, even better than the ultra 120 extreme but in most cases it has to be mounted 90 degrees from traditional with fan blowing up or down like in the pic in marseys post.
Let me know if you get to compare it side by side in exact case CPU combo and fans. Cause a year ago, it was still beat by the Ultra 120 eXtreme with same 2 fans in push/pull. The iFX-14 need the dual fan to keep up. But do keep us posted, as I will surely give it a try. Except, I use HR-07's in dual so it's already hard to configure anything oriented 90d'
Anybody notice the Xeon X3350 has come down in price to actually maybe less then expected Q9450 with equilvelent specs, less some core extentions (wich slip my mind at the moment, so anybody fill in). It has the nice 8x multi too giving an edge over the X3320.
I may get board waiting and just get one myself, Just wondering if anybody overclocked oe yet. Would love to see a 500x8 review.
Clock It Foward!
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12. April 2008 @ 05:10 |
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The Vmods are pretty easy to do with the right tools.
The main issue is having a small enough tip on the soldering ironing and a steady hand, otherwsie you run the risk of shorting out pins with too much solder.
I also use a temperature controlled iron to keep the heat down to minimum.
Parts are normally available from Maplins.
I've built and repaired loads of electronics before so I'm used to working on that sort of thing, I've modded quite a few boards now for both myself and others that don't want to risk messing things up.
Some mods can be done with a basic pencil, just by adding a layer of graphite to certain areas, personally I prefer to do it 100% with components.
I have an X3120 CPU but I have never OC'd it, it went straight into my business machine and everything runs at stock.
If I ever upgrade it (unlikely for now) I'll have a tinker with it to see what it can do, but the PC is too important to me to risk messing things up.
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12. April 2008 @ 12:11 |
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yea russ i did get them upto 3.6ghz but it was only for bench runs,it needed too much voltage for 24/7 and with the vdroop on this board i needed to give it way more than it needed to keep it it going under load.
for this chip to stay orthos stable it does need more volts than in the superpi screen above, 1.32v or above, but the board cant handle the fsb and ram speeds and ramdomly crashes. i had to drop my ram to 900 to get that screen, i have also dropped pcie speeds and it too seemed to help but just not enough.
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Originally posted by NuckNFuts:
Originally posted by Mort81:
the IFX-14 is the cats meow, even better than the ultra 120 extreme but in most cases it has to be mounted 90 degrees from traditional with fan blowing up or down like in the pic in marseys post.
Let me know if you get to compare it side by side in exact case CPU combo and fans. Cause a year ago, it was still beat by the Ultra 120 eXtreme with same 2 fans in push/pull. The iFX-14 need the dual fan to keep up.
can you show me where the true out did the ifx with the same fans? and iirc its not be on the shelves for anywere near a year, but....
@ mort
its the heatsink on my nb that stops me having it the other way but in this case i get better temps with it pointing up anyway, it was the same with my f7p before this. if the mobo cooling was stock it fitts both ways.
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13. April 2008 @ 14:16 |
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Alright so I decided to UNDERCLOCK my Q6600 while my new GPU comes in. Right now I am not doing anything but surf the net and watch videos. So now my Q6600 is at 1.2Ghz and set at 1.0v. Everything else is left at stock, no overvolting. FSB is 200, CPU multi is 6x, and Mem multi is 4x. This is a shot of everest showing my temps(which didn't go down as much as I expected). It seems prime 95 stable SO FAR(10 mins).
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13. April 2008 @ 14:29 |
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That's exactly what I'd expect - your CPU is pretty much at ambient temperature so it isn't going to lower, and unless you also undervolt the chipset, that's not going to be much cooler than normal anyway.
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13. April 2008 @ 14:40 |
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Yeah but the chipset was overvolted to +.2 before and I took it down to normal and the temp only went down 4C. Let me try adding a fan.
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