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14. April 2008 @ 14:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Hehe, have you seen the 17" laptop screens Russ? They're mindblowing. 1920x1200 on a screen that size has to be seen to be believed, the picture is so incredibly sharp.

Same basic idea on a smaller scale with the 15.4 screen. The sharpness and detail and contrast are amazing!

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@sam dont you feel that some of the iq is lost on a screen so small?

I'm going to respond to that even though you asked Sam! The thing is, that the detail is there to begin with so it doesn't deteriorate, but just gets smaller. I have a 7x OptiVisor that I use for turbine work and looking closely at the screen, the picture doesn't seem to break down at all. I have no idea what the Pixel Pitch is, but it has to be tiny!
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the hr-10 is what make sthe world of difference between this and all other coolers i have seen. it mounts to the back plate for the ifx and takes all the heat away from the socket area to the fins above the ram slots via 2 heat pipes. if you have a normal case with you psu at the top you will have no issue at all runnig this setup but it you have your psu at the bottom you will need to hack a hole in the top of your case so it can poke out the top.

It's what I've been saying for a long time. With the closeness of the NB to the CPU and with all the connections between the CPU and NB, you get a lot of heat transfered to the CPU socket from the NB. If you can transfer that heat to another location from it's source, then the CPU will run cooler. Just adding a 6.5 cfm fan to my NB heatsink drops the MB temp 5-7C, which in turn lowers the CPU temp about the same amount!

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@ theonejrs:

Which model Acer do you have???

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System 2: Core2Duo E6400 O/Ced @ 3.2 GHz, Gigabyte GA 965P S3 mobo, Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro, 2GB PC6400 RAM, PNY GeForce 6600, Hyundai B70A 17" LCD.
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Marsey: You don't lose image quality with a drop in screen size (you sit closer to a laptop screen after all) but rather with the resolution, and the dpi. Since the resolution of those screens is high (1920x1200) and the dpi off the scale at over 130 (my monitor is 101 and that's high) they look superb - you've seen how picky I am about image quality, I have very little complaint about those screens apart from the fact that some of them are prone to light leakage.




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teflonmyk,
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@ theonejrs:

Which model Acer do you have???

It's an Aspire 5610-BL50 with a T2250 1.73GHz CPU, 1GB (2x512MB) of 533 Ram, a 120GB HDD, WiFi, Dual monitor capable and a CrystalBrite 15.4" widescreen. I just now ordered 2x1GB 667 memory for it from the Egg, so I should have it tomorrow or Wednesday. I'll let you know how the new memory works out

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Cool... I have the Extensa 5620-6830 with the T5250 (1.5 GHz) and 200 GB HDD. I upgraded mine with two gigs of G.Skill 667 from the 'Egg... I like it so far. Had it 'bout 6 months. Still not sold on Vista, though. If you have any Vista tweaks, let me know.

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System 2: Core2Duo E6400 O/Ced @ 3.2 GHz, Gigabyte GA 965P S3 mobo, Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro, 2GB PC6400 RAM, PNY GeForce 6600, Hyundai B70A 17" LCD.

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Hey so I noticed a wierd thing. When I ran prime 95 my Motherboard temps did not go up ONE DEGREE. Maybe prime 95 doesn't stress it that much? Maybe it's the Thermalright cooler? It doesn't make THAT much of an impact at idle but keeps the load temps down...

Who knows.
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teflonmyk,
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If you have any Vista tweaks, let me know.

This is the first time I've ever done anything with a vista machine. I've converted several computers to XP-Pro for customers, but I never even really looked at Vista before. I do like the Vista Home Premium to a degree. It does everything it's supposed to but too much emphasis on security. I really don't like to have to ok it, when I open a program I use all the time! LOL!!

I would love to keep it, as it's a really fine well made computer, but I need to get it sold so I can finish a new machine for my roommate! I still need a case, PSU, MB and memory to do the build! I'm installing the 2GB of better memory because I would never in good conscience sell a Vista machine with only 1GB of memory to begin with. The new memory should be here tomorrow, so we'll see what 2GB does in it!

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VISTA can be tweaked for most of that stuff. But is is often a hack to to get some pro media apps to run correctly. For example, you have to disable the VISTA transpanencies for Adobe Ahdition 2.0 to run. I only have VISTA Business x64, but a lot of stuf is still not ready even after 1 whole year. The UAC "User Account Control" can be disabled from tools menue using msconfig. It can easily be turned on and off as needed. I'd say leave it on during normal use but configure your daily used apps to have permissions rather then to have to click yes every time. But you can do fine w/ it off like if in XP (basic security). It can also be edited in registry group ploicies.

The use of the "turbo memory" is pretty cool, but I have not really saw an big difference except for resume form S3/S4, wich is nice on notebooks. You can also dedicate more flash RAM to GPU. My 512 8800-M can get 768 now w/ Turbo RAM in VISTA x64 SP1.

Little by little it starts to feel better as we get to learn the tweaks and the drivers get better. I'm just waiting for Adobe to become more VISTA friendly w/ their pro media suites.

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ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+

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I've been using Vista 64 Ulimate for a few weeks and so far have had no issues what so ever.
Went through the learning curve on what to switch off where, and now it seems to be very stable and run every application I've ever used be it 32 or 64 bit.

Currently running Crysis in 64 mode without any of the issues some people have reported.

I managed to get the Ultimate 32/64 dual disc retail pack for £185 new, compared to the normal cost of about £370.

I must have gone mad somewhere, and started to only use legit software (getting old), I also have a copy of 32 Home premium OEM, but that was crap, even moving my GPU from one slot to another caused the OS to deactivate and I ended up having to ring them to get it activated, they're taking security too far with the OEM.
Thats worth considering when deciding if you get the retail or OEM version especially if you tend to rebuild or upgrade over the life of a PC.


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Does the 32bit version of Vista have "Turbo Memory"?
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Originally posted by core2kid:
Does the 32bit version of Vista have "Turbo Memory"?
I believe so, as my 2nd notebook was origionally x86 VISTA Premium. However, it is a feature more of a chipset & BIOS supported feature then anything ellse. I know for sure it works on the mobile chipset PM965 and of corse recent PM965 Revised (Sant Rosa Refresh) as well as upcoming Montevina (mobile G35 chipset).

@ BigDK, Please "PM" me or describe what type of pro media and office apps you run under VISTA. I had plenty of issues with such a year ago, so have not run them on my VISTA machine and took it off my notebook. If the Adobe fixes have been delt with I will reconcider my mobile install. I do like the look, just not the compatability issues I had.

Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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Look at my siggy, you think it'd work on my computer to boost my video card performance?
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Originally posted by core2kid:
Look at my siggy, you think it'd work on my computer to boost my video card performance?

NO, I have not read any confirmed support or hack for Intel Turbo Memory on desktop yet. It is likely supported of the P35 and X38/X48 but Intel has locked this feature out of the chipset. So far, it is also dependent upon the Intel ICH9 SB chipset (maybe ICH8 too, but not sure). If we do see a NAND chipset hach for PCI-E 1x it will more then likely be from ASUS. They are good for that, opening the doors to features not yet available. Remember, PAT for 865P, or PRB for 865P and later for !915/925X? as well as the !925XE chipset unlock?

ASUS does offer several Notebook with T-KGA775 and do support Turbo Memory. A lot of the big gaming laptops useing the E6750 do this as well as SLI and full sized SLI external. Cool stuff.

UPDATE: I did the reg edit, and all is fine so far. I did notice that my Server x86 machine did not have these explorer entries, (but it is fine as is). Just curious.

Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+

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Quick question. I heard word of incompatibilities between Creative's Sound Blaster audio cards and the nVidia 680i chipset. Anyone else heard anything about this or is it just a rumor spreading around? Could it be the cause of my computer freezing and sending a screeching sound through to the speakers/headphones?



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Originally posted by PeaInAPod:
Quick question. I heard word of incompatibilities between Creative's Sound Blaster audio cards and the nVidia 680i chipset. Anyone else heard anything about this or is it just a rumor spreading around? Could it be the cause of my computer freezing and sending a screeching sound through to the speakers/headphones?

Not heard anything about it but it could be something to do with the drivers. Search torrent sites for "Daniel K Creative Drivers" and use those, they are more stable. If I am allowed to post a direct link to them, I will. Somebody let me know if I am allowed to.
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The list of incompatibilities with 680i is quite large and knowing Creative's drivers, that wouldn't surprise me. I had no issues with the 650i with them though, so that would surprise me - the 680 isn't vastly different.



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Yes, the list of incompatability issues was long with nVidia 680i in general as well as the 680 for AMD. It was just a bad experience overall for me and many enthusiast overclockers for each stability and reliability. Didn't matter what brand, it was the chipset itself. It had many BIOS issues as well wich lead to others and driver stability. Hence the reason you will NOT see a DFI LanParty on 680 anymore as new models. I can't speak for any of the other 6x nVidias, but 680 was a heck of an experience. I had to go back to my finicky 590i till I decide on 790i yet or at least for my AM2+ solution.

So to answer that question, YRS, I heard of it and experienced it. I had the X-Fi Platinum Pro back then (still do) so it may been worse for that combo.

Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+

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Yeah I think I may swap out my soundcard for the nifty little soundcard Asus includes with there boards and see if it helps any. Sad to give up my soundcard though :( And I will get Daniel_K's drivers, wonder whatever happened between him and Creative?



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Originally posted by PeaInAPod:
Yeah I think I may swap out my soundcard for the nifty little soundcard Asus includes with there boards and see if it helps any. Sad to give up my soundcard though :( And I will get Daniel_K's drivers, wonder whatever happened between him and Creative?

like I mentioned, it is more of the chipset, not ASUS or as much the card. I used X-Fi and 2 ZS Platinum Pro's in AMD 590-SLI and Intel 950i with no issues. THe SoundMax is a codec riser, not an APU, so if you already have stability issues somewhere, it is not likely to improve with codec over PCI. The SoundMax card uses more system resorces now since it lacks its own APU and RAM. Especially for overclocking. But anything is worth a shot. Believe me, it is not ASUS or DFI, as I had each. It is just a chipset and BIOS issue. Some mobo makers still poppin them out try to fix but I haven't seen any rock solid. I am already hearing of issues w/ 790, let's hope it's not the simular thing again, cause I want one of them. I want a 790AMD mobo next.

Are you experiencing this at stock or on OC profiles? Are you on BETA or FINAL BIOS rev? For the record, my 680i gained a tad more stable after FINAL BIOS and fresh install of XP x64 SP2. Actually, it's my lil' brothers mobo, but I messed w/ it enough. I remained on each AMD and Intel 590i/590AMD

Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+

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Are you experiencing this at stock or on OC profiles? Are you on BETA or FINAL BIOS rev? For the record, my 680i gained a tad more stable after FINAL BIOS and fresh install of XP x64 SP2. Actually, it's my lil' brothers mobo, but I messed w/ it enough. I remained on each AMD and Intel 590i/590AMD
I have the 680i P5N32-E SLI mobo. I never experienced the phenomenon (spelling?) at stock speeds. My first initial OC was to 2.6 Ghz up from the Q6600's G0 stepping 2.4. I have since gone up to 3.0 and left it there as it satisfies my demands. I am using BIOS 1103 final, there are newer BIOS available but I read in a few OC forums that 1103 is the best for quad core intels.



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Wow, that's a tuffy. I had trouble but not that bad, just not daily stable or reliable for high end media work. BIOS was just buggy. I worked w/ my brother to get his Striker Extreme and it felt nice at first but just picky when it came to overclocking and at higher FSB and RAM ratios especially. I never ran my quad on it, but I do know they were hard to get going up there on the nVidia in general but especially the 680i. 400x9 was an easy "almost stock" on any other mobo and barely on the 680i.

For starters, keep the CPU:RAM linked for 1;1 equuililent for now, as this chipset had way too many black holes for me and others. keep all the RAM performance options off, keep HTT link and peg stuff to auto or stock. And make sure the SB link gets a fair share of OC volts too. Try SLI_16 up/dwn/ to 100 for now, and especially if running Gx2 GPU's. The biggest issue I had was RAM OC.

Just for starters, but either PM me or POST you CMOS options template and your settings (actual, as reported by power mangement, this mobo tends to overvolt from wich set).recap on your basic system parts, ie: PSU, GPU, APU, DRAM etc. The mobo itself is a nice piece of work with better of the nVidia for Intel editions (actually, since DFI discontinued 680 support, it is the best left). THe 680i chipset just needed much more work before release.

I only have the ASUS P5N32-SLI 590i but I'll do my best form memory of the Striker, to help get you further or at best, stable.

Good luck!

Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+

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Peainapod: Probably a lawsuit, Creative really went to town with suing people over software.
NuckNFuts: Now you mention it, I did experience a popping sound issue a while back with my creative sound card, but IIRC it was not with my 650i, but with my nforce 4 SLI and Audigy SE PCI. Tbh, it was probably another part of that chipset's slow migration to brickedville.
What I did however notice though, is sound STUTTER. I would experience slight pauses in sound quite regularly when my CPU was given a new overclock setting. After a few days it would slowly disappear, but whenever I changed a setting, be it the voltage, FSB or whatever, the judder was back... I never really looked much into it at the time.

You don't need me to tell you that it has never re-appeared with my P35C-DS3R or X38-DS4...



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X2 4400 2x1 meg cahce
Fsb at 334x9
Cpu volts 1.45
Ht 3x ( 3x334= 1002 ht speed)
Bios 1405

Mobo A8n32-Sli deluxe
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2x1 gig sticks
Raptor as main hd/ then 500gig/750gig

Cpu temp 33c -36c idel load low 50's
Gpu 8800gts 640 oc'd 675/1500/1000
Dangerden dd-8800gts water block
Gpu temp's idel 40c load58-65c

750 watt psu 50amps on 12volt rail
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my qustion is and i think i know the answer but getting little hyped up... can i run like ddr2 in a ddr board??? wont the ddr2 just underclock??? if i can then newegg or tigerdirect has some ram for 10 bucks :) now it may not oc like mine but if its underclocked then i can just raise it ( see iam getting excited and i think the answer is no but lets see) So will ddr2 like 500 or little higher work in a board that is rated for only ddr400 ( but u can get the ddr433 or what not and use it on this board) ty for ur replies

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No, DDR2 is different to DDR1 physically (different slot type and number of pins)



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thought so :( crap
 
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