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The Official OC (OverClocking) Thread!
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17. April 2008 @ 00:39 |
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Technology wise, some quality DDR1 RAM uses DDR2 ic chips to get the speed and performances from overclockers RAM such as PC-4400/4800. Even the Corsair XMS Expert series RAM uses DDR2 chips inside for its DDR1 PC-3200 LL @ 2-2-2-5.
Controller wise, AMD on 939 was not ready to handle DDR2 specs so even if mobo makers, made socket changes, it wouldnt work. This not so much the case for Intel and it's transformation from DDR2 to DDR3, where only a NAND flash has to be made to chipset to adjust for sub timings.
X2 4400+! If that's the 89w, nice set up there. 3GHz easy on air. I had to use 300*10 cause of my RAM in 1:1 for DDR6000. What RAM divider did you have to use and resaulting spds?
EDIT: who's using a GX2 on an Intel mobo yet while OC'n (mobo, noy GPU)?
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ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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19. April 2008 @ 01:21 |
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I managed to get 4.0ghz out of my asus rampage formula mobo and E3110 Xeon cpu. I had to up the vcore to 1.312v to get it stable in orthos. is that too much vcore for this cpu? stock voltage is .956 - 1.225. I've also got some questions regarding some other features/settings in my bios. what are these?
CPU PLL voltage
SB 1.5 voltage
CPU GTL voltage
NB GTL voltage
DRAM Controller Voltage REF
thanks in advance.
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19. April 2008 @ 04:38 |
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I know this is a strange question this being the OC (OverClocking) Thread, but I have a computer that I just bought used, an eMachine T3616. A Vista Only, Socket AM-2 3600+ 2.0GHz Sempron and 512 ram. Less than a year old, but crippled by Vista Home Basic. Damn thing crashed on me 3 times in about 15 minutes just sitting there idling! I just got done converting it to XP The MB is pretty good (FoxConn) as is the quality of everthing else, so the $284.89 price tag in WalMart when new was a big surprise.
I want to put a better CPU in it, and I have 2GB of G.Skill handy. I'm trying to stay under $70 if I can so I'm thinking a 64x2 4600+ @2.6GHz would be my best bet. $66 at the Egg! I though about giving the 65nm 4050E @ 2.1GHz a shot but I don't think even with the larger cache that it would be as fast as the 4600+. Might run cooler though! I also thought about the Opteron 1210 @1.8GHz, but since I'm limited to no overclocking and I'm thinking 4600+! Of those choices, what would you guys recommend?
TYIA,
Russ
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19. April 2008 @ 07:27 |
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The exact figure doesn't seem to be a straight answer Mort, but from what I've heard, day to day running shouldn't really be anything above the stock voltage. I certainly know 1.36 and above seems to kill the CPUs, as for 1.3, you might be alright, but you could still be close to the danger zone if you see what I mean.
Theone: The 4600+ is an alright CPU, and it would certainly eat your old D940 for breakfast. It's not as fast as most of the Duos which is why I don't recommend them but if all you need is the CPU, they're quite cheap for the performance level. Cache aside, I think you should see performance levels not too far off the E6400.
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19. April 2008 @ 13:27 |
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that's the only con of having a new wolfdale cpu and X48 mobo. there's not that many out there yet to compare too (get answers from/about). it's just a rule of thumb that when you OC the cpu, you have to increas the vcore to keep it stable. at least with a major OC. I know the wolfdales will OC to some degree (400-500mhz maybe) without a vcore increase over the auto setting but we're talking 1,000mhz in my case.
.087v increase doesn't sound like much vcore increase. I'm not worried about heat. temps are good but then again you've got to take into consideration that I'm using a TR ultra 120 extreme w/ a scythe SFF21F 120mm fan. the only thing I am concerned about is electrical migration. I've heard the wolfdales are more susceptable to this.
on the other hand, I have read reviews on the E3110 and E8400 where they have been OC'ed to 4.3ghz+ with vcore voltage as high as 1.443+
on a side note, this mobo is absolutely amazing. an overclockers dream. no guesswork with voltages or dram frequencies. vcore voltage settings range from 1.100 to 2.400 in 075v increments. dram voltage settings range from 1.80 to 3.40 in .02v increments. same applies for NB, SB, FSB, etc voltage settings. you get the idea.
there are 4 FSB straps to choose from (200mhz, 266mhz, 333mhz and 400mhz). each of these will then give you 2 or usually 3 choices for dram frequency which are of couse dependant to the cpu frequency. there is absolutely no reason a person can't get extremely close to the rated speed of their ram regardless of where they set the cpu frequency. there are a lot of dram settings that I haven't even touched.
another nice feature is that all the OC settings are under one header in the bios (Extreme Tweaker Menu). all frequency settings, all voltage settings, and all dram settings.
this is without a doubt the most OC friendly mobo I have ever had. it takes some learning/getting used to since there are so many settings/features. I highly recommend the asus rampage formula.................
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19. April 2008 @ 13:41 |
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I just learned today that you can buy a Asus P5E motherboard and just flash it to a Rampage Formula! The P5E was available for a 100 dollars open box at newegg! Now it's 170, I feel so bad for no buying it.
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19. April 2008 @ 13:48 |
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Nonetheless you surely are going to be missing chipset cooling and power regulators though?
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19. April 2008 @ 13:50 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
I just learned today that you can buy a Asus P5E motherboard and just flash it to a Rampage Formula! The P5E was available for a 100 dollars open box at newegg! Now it's 170, I feel so bad for no buying it.
are you sure? I know you can flash the maximus formula with rampage formula bios but never heard of doing it to a P5E.
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19. April 2008 @ 13:51 |
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19. April 2008 @ 13:56 |
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Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435 |
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19. April 2008 @ 14:17 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
I just learned today that you can buy a Asus P5E motherboard and just flash it to a Rampage Formula! The P5E was available for a 100 dollars open box at newegg! Now it's 170, I feel so bad for no buying it.
I saw the same thing boozer and didn't have the extra CASH at the time. NOW that I do NOTHING in frikkin sight!!! Well PISS... lol.
I'm thinking about switching the E6850 and Q6600 for giggles and such. I'd like to see how far the E6850 will go with the Striker Extreme compared to the P35-DS3P. hmmmmmmmmmmmm.... Any ideas guys??
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19. April 2008 @ 14:22 |
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It was 100 bucks TWO DAYS ago. Hopefully it goes down soon, because I'm pissed. The Rampage formula and the P5E are virtually identical. Even if it doesn't perform as good(and it probably wont), it's still close performance for 200 dollars less.
Anyway if the deal comes up again I will let everyone know. I'm gonne be checking everyday. Hell I'll buy 3 extra and sell them on eBay!
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19. April 2008 @ 15:05 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
It was 100 bucks TWO DAYS ago. Hopefully it goes down soon, because I'm pissed. The Rampage formula and the P5E are virtually identical. Even if it doesn't perform as good(and it probably wont), it's still close performance for 200 dollars less.
Anyway if the deal comes up again I will let everyone know. I'm gonne be checking everyday. Hell I'll buy 3 extra and sell them on eBay!
You better PM me or call me or something, BECAUSE if you get all they have and I don't get one I'm driving to Florida to kick ye arse. hehehe. :P
That's insane btw. Basically the same features (not the same mobo I know) for $200 less. Like Morty said... WOW!!! /me wants one....
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19. April 2008 @ 15:18 |
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gm,
YOU ARE A NUT rotflmao
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19. April 2008 @ 17:17 |
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Mort81,
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YOU ARE A NUT rotflmao
Yes! The squirrel's have been around looking for him! ROLF!!
Russ
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19. April 2008 @ 18:35 |
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After doing the math, I've settled on an AMD 4450E 2.3GHz 45w CPU to replace the 3600+ Sempron that's in it. I guess I can be one of the first ones to get one of the new 65nm AMD CPUs! LOL!!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103256
The price on the others went up so I settled for this one. My choice was either this or an Athlon 64x2 4800+ @2.4GHz. At 45 watts, the 4450E should run cooler and is only .1GHz slower than the 4800+!
Best Regards and thanks for the input,
Russ
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19. April 2008 @ 18:50 |
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sorry to pee on your fireworks, my 5000 x2 B.E is 65nm :oP runs cool at 3.2ghz :o)
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19. April 2008 @ 19:18 |
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Indeedy, there have been plenty of 65nm AMD CPUs along the original architecture. Shame the shrink didn't yield performance benefits eh? (Not that I ever thought it would...)
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19. April 2008 @ 20:17 |
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sammorris,
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Indeedy, there have been plenty of 65nm AMD CPUs along the original architecture. Shame the shrink didn't yield performance benefits eh? (Not that I ever thought it would...)
It will be good enough for my purposes. In addition to the CPU, I'm installing 2GB of G.Skill 800MHz Ram and the same model Thermaltake 500w PSU that I have in mine now. In addition I get the 1066 memory for mine and it doesn't cost me anything! I think my roommate is going to take it and get rid of the D-940. Aside from the crappy PSU that comes with it, the eMachine is well made so it shouldn't have any problems with a decent PSU installed!
ck5134,
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sorry to pee on your fireworks, my 5000 x2 B.E is 65nm :oP runs cool at 3.2ghz :o)
I should have said "one of the newest low wattage (45w) 65nm chips"! LOL!! :<)
Best Regards,
Russ
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21. April 2008 @ 16:42 |
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Hi there i just overclocked to my PC to 3 GHz for the first time ever. It seems to be running fine with no crashes etc, i did a stress test where the CPU temperature climbed to 65 Celcius, again no crashes.
However my problem is every time i restart my PC i either get a "system boot error" and have to press F1 to continue to Windows or the bios screen does not load at all.
My Specs:
Intel Core 2 Duo CPU E6600
Asus P5N32 SLi
Idle temperature when overclocked to 3HZ is 35 Celsius.
CPU-Z Screenshot
Any help is welcome as i have never overclocked before.
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21. April 2008 @ 17:16 |
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seems your oc is stable when your board is warm but doesnt like to cold boot, not to uncommon with asus boards. here is a great thread for overclocking that board and im sure they can solve all your overclocking issues there :D
russ what does the fsb max out at on your board?
sam if you peel the p5e sticker off the pcb guess what it says underneath? it even has the solder points for the chips and stuff they left off.
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21. April 2008 @ 17:22 |
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I'm well aware, but just because it's the same PCB doesn't mean it's the same board.
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21. April 2008 @ 17:40 |
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Originally posted by marsey99:
seems your oc is stable when your board is warm but doesnt like to cold boot, not to uncommon with asus boards. here is a great thread for overclocking that board and im sure they can solve all your overclocking issues there :D
russ what does the fsb max out at on your board?
sam if you peel the p5e sticker off the pcb guess what it says underneath? it even has the solder points for the chips and stuff they left off.
what does it say?
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21. April 2008 @ 17:52 |
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marsey99,
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russ what does the fsb max out at on your board?
I had it to 500MHz when I pushed the 6750 briefly to 4.0GHz with the Crucial ballistix memory, so that would be 500x8. I only ran it that way for about an hour and had to give the Ram back to my friend. The CPU required 1.57v to do it though, so sensibly I lowered it (and the voltage) and I'm happy with the way it runs at 3.5GHz. I see what I can do with it when I install the G.Skill 1066 memory, later this week. Memory speed is what's causing my OC problems. Mostly the screen will just freeze, and you have to shut off the power as it doesn't reset.
Frankly, I like the way it runs at 3.5GHz. First thing I'm going to do is set the memory multiplier to 2.5 and see how it runs with the memory at 1096MHz and better timings. Presently it's running at 876MHz at 5-4-4-12!
Best Regards,
Russ
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