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The Official OC (OverClocking) Thread!
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3. May 2008 @ 18:26 |
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hey pinksman xD
nop, never is any MIRs here, and 17.5% VAT is a killer, esp when you order alto of items as we get taxed AFTER shipping is added aswell (normally above £50 with quite a few items)
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3. May 2008 @ 19:24 |
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greensman,
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I don't like MIR but hey they save you money if you get them. The only ones that I've missed are the ones that I haven't sent in on time. I've only done that twice.
I've had very good luck with rebates. the only one I never got was for my electric scooter that I bought on a rebate deal from Pep Boys. $90 is a lot to loose and I'm not letting them get away with it. I've worked my way through lower management and I have an appointment with the regional Manager in 2 weeks. Their attitude is that it's the rebate outfits problem. I told them, I don't think so as they didn't sell it to me with the promise of the rebate and that it's Pep Boys responsibility to see that that agreement is honored! I have a lot of Attorneys who buy computers from me so I get a good bit of help for free. The Corsair Domminator rebate went in the mail on Thursday! LOL!! That's through Newegg, so it should be no problem.
On the same subject, I read a lot of times that people wait to send in the rebate, so if something goes wrong they can exchange it where they bought it. Most companies do the same thing so I don't get it. Every time I ever had to send something back to a Manufacturer, it was maybe an extra day difference, tops!
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Russ
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3. May 2008 @ 21:01 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
abuzar1,
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Russ, the base doesn't matter because the copper heatpipes directly touch the IHS.
I really hate to disagree, but yes it does. You only have those 3 copper strips and the upper part to remove heat. All those tiny air gaps between the two matter as air is not a very good conductor of heat. That's why we lap ours so the surface is smooth and flat. That's why Mort's Thermalright didn't cool as well as it should and it only had a tiny imperfection in the surface! That's why he returned it and bought a lapped one! I would for sure use Creamique or MX-2 when installing it as they would better fill those tiny gaps. Especially the Ceramique as it's on the thick side and should squeeze in there nicely! I wouldn't use AS5 though as it doesn't spread out as well. buy one, try it and if it's too noisy, or doesn't cool that well with your OC, you can always sell it! You seem to be good at that! LOL!!
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Exactly. The concept is there, but better if the pipe was bigger and or spaced closer together. Or berrter yet, 2 big pipes directly to CPU die as in mobile cooling. I'm sure as is, it will beat the Freezer Pro but not likely gonna even touch the origional ThermalRight 120 or newer ultra 90 Extreme.
Originally posted by core2kid:
That doesn't look that good at all but reviews never lie!
Lol! and they never say anything on TV that isn't true. Hehe.
If this new cooler was to utilize a ThermalRight style design and essentially remove the lower plate to mate directly to CPU IHS, it mihg actually be prett great. 5x 8mm flat pipes to IHS.
Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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3. May 2008 @ 22:40 |
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Yeah, but we are talking about USER reviews, not paid advertising reviews.
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3. May 2008 @ 22:55 |
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"USER reviews", sometimes even worse, as often they are heavily influenced by personal experienced, may it be bad to user error or good. And dont think for a minute that those big review sites arn't influenced by the gifts they get to show off a product. ASUS and Intel are good for that.
One has to take them with a grain of salt and use as general refference. Wvwn big named Lab reviewer dont even pcompletely push a product like we do in OC reality, ie: a mobo along w/ a CPU for FSB and or volts as we often want to know. I find many where you have to dig hard to see the real vcore used. Good example is the BE AM2 6400+ wich many show can do only or now more then 3.5 on air, but at only 1.5v. go 1.6 and you can easily get 3.6 on air with that, speaking personally and for many others.
Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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3. May 2008 @ 23:23 |
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What voltage would I need to overclock my Q6600 to 3.1 or 3.2 GHz?
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3. May 2008 @ 23:49 |
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MIRs are illegal in the UK so that's why you don't see them - only banks are allowed to temporarily take hold of people's money in that way IIRC.
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3. May 2008 @ 23:55 |
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Core 2 Kid, even with a G0 stepping CPU, if you're not very lucky you will need voltage above 1.4v, maybe up to 1.5 depending on your CPU.
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4. May 2008 @ 00:16 |
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1.5 tends to be the level people say is required for 3.6Ghz. 1.4 tends to get people in the 3.2 ballpark. I wouldn't necessarily judge all the 6600s based on your experience, Abuzar.
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4. May 2008 @ 00:19 |
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It's the best info I have to go by. Plus I did say above 1.4v, I didn't say just crank it up to 1.5 for 3.2ghz.
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4. May 2008 @ 01:46 |
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@abuzar1
After many issues I have gotten my Q6600 OC'ed stable @ 3.0Ghz w/ 1.3825 volts.
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4. May 2008 @ 04:02 |
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Originally posted by PeaInAPod:
@abuzar1
After many issues I have gotten my Q6600 OC'ed stable @ 3.0Ghz w/ 1.3825 volts.
what is the batch code of your cpu if you dont mind me asking...
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4. May 2008 @ 06:08 |
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Pea, that's great! I know you were having some problems. I'm going to run Prime 95 and make sure mine is still stable after flashing the new BIOS.
im1992, no I don't mind you asking, but I don't know where to find it. Tell me where to look and I will post it here.
EDIT: Now I realize you weren't even asking me! lol
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4. May 2008 @ 08:55 |
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1.4 for 3.2GHz and 1.5 for 3.6GHz. Ill take a look and go for the 3.2, I know my CPU fan isn't good enough to go to 3.6. At 3.07, Vista and Speedfan report my voltage at 1.32. Now I do not know if the CPU is actually running at 3.07 or if its at stock 2.4. Is that a normal voltage? When I bought my CPU it was the OEM version on Newegg.
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4. May 2008 @ 09:16 |
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3.25GHz @ 1.45V in the BIOS. Speedfan and CPUz though report 1.36v while stress testing with prime95. Going for about 5 minutes and the CPU hit 68C at max. I may need a better fan.
I'm looking at this one, my friend has it and his quad is 80ish Fahrenheit idle (sorry, don't know Celsius)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835887002
While typing this and stress testing:
Thread 4 failed after 6 minutes
Thread 3 failed after 7 minutes
Thread 1 failed after 8 minutes.
Thread 2 still going.
CPU 56C now.
My questions. Why is the voltage not reported as what I set it to?
Would a better fan help my overclocking?
Why is 3.07 the highest stable I can get, I see people going to 3.6 on air.
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4. May 2008 @ 09:47 |
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4. May 2008 @ 10:35 |
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Idling I can get 1.924 to 1.4v. Why did I have to set it to 1.45 to see what I am seeing?
About the fan, I still am hooked onto the fan I choose, the reviews are better for the Q6600s saying @ 3GHz its 28C idle.
I remember that I have a heatsync from a XPS Gen 3 that looks like the one you sent me. If anybody knows a way to monitor the temps on that let me know or else I'll swap it in my other case see what my Q6600 does with that. Just hate swapping heatsyncs because of having to remove the motherboard.
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4. May 2008 @ 10:35 |
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I have no clue what batch # mine is from. On the other hand I do recommend buying the Q6600 from ClubIT as the quarentee a G0 stepping, and have prices comparable to neweggs.
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4. May 2008 @ 10:43 |
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core2kid, the effect you are seeing is vdroop, the plague of overclocking. its due to the mobo losing the power as it runs thru its circuitry. then again it droops more as you load it.
as for the volts you will need to hit xx speed, if you have a newer chip you might not even be able to hit 3.6ghz as the volts needed will overheat it. some of the newest chips seem to be poor for ocing :(
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4. May 2008 @ 12:19 |
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Originally posted by PeaInAPod:
I have no clue what batch code I have. On the other hand I do recommend buying the Q6600 from ClubIT as the quarentee a G0 stepping, and have prices comparable to neweggs.
its usually on the box and its also on the ihs itself
it would usually say
Example of my Q6600
BATCH CODE: L737B046
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4. May 2008 @ 12:20 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
Pea, that's great! I know you were having some problems. I'm going to run Prime 95 and make sure mine is still stable after flashing the new BIOS.
im1992, no I don't mind you asking, but I don't know where to find it. Tell me where to look and I will post it here.
EDIT: Now I realize you weren't even asking me! lol
if you also have a q6600, please let me know the batch code and the stable overclock.
its usually on the box and its also on the ihs itself
it would usually say
Example of my Q6600
BATCH CODE: L737B046
-thanks
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4. May 2008 @ 12:34 |
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Originally posted by marsey99:
core2kid, the effect you are seeing is vdroop, the plague of overclocking. its due to the mobo losing the power as it runs thru its circuitry. then again it droops more as you load it.
as for the volts you will need to hit xx speed, if you have a newer chip you might not even be able to hit 3.6ghz as the volts needed will overheat it. some of the newest chips seem to be poor for ocing :(
So right now it's something to do with the chip, not the board right? So what if I set it at 1.6v and then it'll hit around 1.45-1.5. Is there any danger of putting to much voltage to a chip? Can I destroy it for good?
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4. May 2008 @ 12:52 |
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Looking on google a bit, I see that my board, The P5K-E has Vdroop problems. There is a pencil mod: http://www.overclock.net/motherboard-vol...k-e-pencil.html But I really don't understand what they did if anybody could clarify it for me. Secondly, I set the voltage to 1.5 in the BIOS and I see 1.45 with Speedfan Idle. I have to head out somewhere so I didn't test under load. I also read that Auto in the BIOS will automatically give voltage to the CPU depending on the speed. Is that true? Please help me, Im awesome at building computers and messing with the internals of Windows XP but I can't do a simple thing as overclocking :(
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4. May 2008 @ 13:10 |
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Originally posted by core2kid:
Looking on google a bit, I see that my board, The P5K-E has Vdroop problems. There is a pencil mod: http://www.overclock.net/motherboard-vol...k-e-pencil.html But I really don't understand what they did if anybody could clarify it for me. Secondly, I set the voltage to 1.5 in the BIOS and I see 1.45 with Speedfan Idle. I have to head out somewhere so I didn't test under load. I also read that Auto in the BIOS will automatically give voltage to the CPU depending on the speed. Is that true? Please help me, Im awesome at building computers and messing with the internals of Windows XP but I can't do a simple thing as overclocking :(
the "auto" voltage will be far too high than the cpu really needs. i do not recommend using the "auto" setting on a voltage as important as the cpu core.
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4. May 2008 @ 13:39 |
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Originally posted by im1992:
Originally posted by core2kid:
Looking on google a bit, I see that my board, The P5K-E has Vdroop problems. There is a pencil mod: http://www.overclock.net/motherboard-vol...k-e-pencil.html But I really don't understand what they did if anybody could clarify it for me. Secondly, I set the voltage to 1.5 in the BIOS and I see 1.45 with Speedfan Idle. I have to head out somewhere so I didn't test under load. I also read that Auto in the BIOS will automatically give voltage to the CPU depending on the speed. Is that true? Please help me, Im awesome at building computers and messing with the internals of Windows XP but I can't do a simple thing as overclocking :(
the "auto" voltage will be far too high than the cpu really needs. i do not recommend using the "auto" setting on a voltage as important as the cpu core.
Actually I had it at auto to start off with and it didn't have enough voltage.
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