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PFC-Kluge
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5. May 2004 @ 11:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I currently have a PIII ? 1Ghz machine with 1 GB of RAM. Most of the tasks performed are pretty mundane like surfing and MS Office, but I am also working on converting all my MiniDV video tapes from a Digital Camcorder from captured AVI files to DVD format(MPEG2 files). The capture is easy and the modifying is easy, but the whole encoding process (software =TmpEng) from AVI to MPEG2 can take up to 10 hours if I use the ?best? settings.

My question is this: Should I look at upgrading my current system to a Dual CPU board or just build a new PC with either a P4 3+ Ghz or an AMD Athlon 64 3400+. I don?t really do much gaming, but I would like to see what can be done to get this encoding time down to something more reasonable.

I've built a few complete machines (older systems), so the build process is not daunting. Any help, guidance would be nice.
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6. May 2004 @ 11:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If the budget isnt a real problem, get a Dual-Opteron config :)

Short of that I would reccommend the A64-3400. The biggest performance jump you will notice from eitheer upgrade will be the use (if you choose-to/can) of a more advanced memory spec. Faster HDDs would be useful too (although, if budget isnt really a problem, going with the A64 and going monkey-crazy on RAM would be best so you can then do the entire encoding in memory).

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1GB KingMax PC3700
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XFX 6800GT 256MB
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PFC-Kluge
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6. May 2004 @ 11:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Praetor,
Thanks for the rec. I was looking at Tom's hardware site, and the P4- Extreme Edition seems to outperform the Athlon 64FX (http://www4.tomshardware.com/cpu/20040419/cpu-scaling-15.html) using TMPGEnc for encoding.

I also found that even if you go with the dual board, most software doesn't take advantage of the dualees yet, so the performance gain will not be noticed. I'm very interested in this, so thanks for the continued help in advance.
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6. May 2004 @ 12:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
1. Although software doesnt take advantage of 64bit extentions, there ARE apps that do take such things into consideration

2. With the 64bit platform you have more access to more ram which means you can get rid of the HDD as the bottleneck.

3. As any computer engineer will tell ya, the CPU is fast enough -- the bottleneck is are the memory devices. So really, regardless of whether you choose P4/AMD, it doesnt really matter as much as the type and spec of memory you are using.

4. Tom's Hardware Guide is biased (as i unfortunaely discovered the other day -- their bias happens to concurr with my own preferences but nonetheless i no longer respect their reviews and such... such a small thing too... oh well).

5. I reccommended the Dual Opteron rig -- not a A64FX system. The Opt'y line is a little different from the FX line :)

ASUS A8V Deluxe, A64-3500 @ 2.65
1GB KingMax PC3700
640GB [4x160GB, 7200, 8MB]
XFX 6800GT 256MB
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PFC-Kluge
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6. May 2004 @ 13:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks again for the support.
How much $$$ would the dual-Opteron setup run (Board + CPU's + special 2-3GB RAM)?

Also, how much performance increase will I see over my PIII 1Ghz system (1 GB AVI file encoding to MPEG2 using TMPGEnc)?
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6. May 2004 @ 18:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here in Canada, the chips & mobo will set ya back ~2100 and the ram... dunno off the top of me head.

ASUS A8V Deluxe, A64-3500 @ 2.65
1GB KingMax PC3700
640GB [4x160GB, 7200, 8MB]
XFX 6800GT 256MB
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15. May 2004 @ 23:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
after going to a trade show at the the nec in birmingham england recently i saw a prototype system running 4 yes 4 opteron cpus on one mother board linked up to 8 17 inch tft monitors this is possibly the most powerful home pc ive ever seen just imagine the encoding speeds with the right software.
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17. May 2004 @ 07:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oi oi oi ... wait till you try and figure out the Opteron naming convention! (blows me mind).

ASUS A8V Deluxe, A64-3500 @ 2.65
1GB KingMax PC3700
640GB [4x160GB, 7200, 8MB]
XFX 6800GT 256MB
Rules and Policies: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2487
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18. May 2004 @ 03:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
to preator got some pics of the system i mentioned they will be on my cusins web site soon will send you the link when he gets the gallery working http://www.wayne-tech.co.uk/ you can chek this but the gallery wasnt workin when i checked.
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