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Mokum67
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_ 		2. April 2010 @ 07:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi all,
For years I've used DVDShrink for backing-up and ripping DVD's but since moved to Vista the program simply does not work. Searching for solutions I finally concluded that my old DVDShrink will never work again.
So in search for alternatives I ran into the following (pay)sites:
(1) http://www.official-dvdshrink.org/
This site is actually claiming to have a Vista compatible 2010 version of DVDShrink. First I was happy to find something familiar but franky I have no clue whether this is real or fake. Can one of you tell me if this is real and useful software?

(2) The afterdawn newsletter pointed me to some alternatives:
Software from this site http://www.slysoft.com/
Looks good despite that you have to use AnyDVD in combination with CloneDVD.

(3) Then I searched for 'CloneDVD region free' and ran into this site:
http://www.clonedvd.net/
And now I get suspicious and ask myself why using two programs from Slysoft if this software has it all in one.

Bottom line,I need some advice from you experts:
Which of the 3 alternatives is real and proper software for backing-up/ripping DVD's?
What is currenlty the best alternative for DVDShrink which can run on Vista?

Thank you so much for your support...
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rtm27
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_ 		2. April 2010 @ 09:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There is no 2010 version of dvd shrink....it is a fake!! You can use dvd shrink with vista. You need to log in under administrator, and run the program under compatibility mode to get dvd shrink to work.

You can also used anydvd running in the background with dvd shrink to handle the encryptions on the movies you are trying to back up.

You can also use DVDFab decrypter, which has a free version to download to rip the disks before hand and then using dvd shrink to compress.
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Mokum67
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_ 		2. April 2010 @ 09:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for your reply rtm27.

I try to run it as admin but still I get the message "DVDshrink stopped working" and if I try to change the compatibility I can't find Vista in the menu.

Can you help me out on this one?
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rtm27
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_ 		2. April 2010 @ 11:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
When you access compatibility mode, you choose "run as windows xp" from the drop down menu. Accept, and you should be able to run it then.
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Mokum67
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_ 		2. April 2010 @ 12:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well rtm27, I have tried that and still no success. I run it as admin as well, no success.
I have no clue why this problem occurs and to be hones the more I read about this the more I regret moving to Vista...

rtm27 if you read the below, does this make sense to you?

Problem Event Name: BEX
Application Name: DVD Shrink 3.2.exe
Application Version: 3.2.0.15
Application Timestamp: 4103f8b5
Fault Module Name: StackHash_df24
Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 00000000
Exception Offset: 002a5218
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Data: 00000008
OS Version: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: df24
Additional Information 2: 7b69f554e66c06a713a1c0783c205e2b
Additional Information 3: 38de
Additional Information 4: 2b2f4375b80fead797587cb44cf4a544

Thanks again.
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Mrguss
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_ 		2. April 2010 @ 17:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi !

I have 3 Pc's with diff. OS's (XP, Vista n W-7).....all my programs are working just find on all of them.
I think you download DVD Shrink in the wrong place and maybe is corrupted.

Try:
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/cd_dvd/copy_dvd/dvd_shrink.cfm

Good luck !
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Mokum67
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_ 		3. April 2010 @ 01:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Mrguss,
Thanks for your reply.

I have used the version on the link and still Vista comes up with the message "DVDShrink stopped working" even before finalising the installation.
I also made an exception rule in DEP but without the desired result.

Any suggestions?
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mistycat
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_ 		3. April 2010 @ 03:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Go with the Slysoft combo. I won't run a product down on suspicion but it's kinda odd for two products to have the same name unless it's to trick people and I know Slysoft is legit. DVD Fab (paid) is a single program: http://www.dvdfab.com/ and there are others.
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Mrguss
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_ 		3. April 2010 @ 05:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Mokum67:
 Hi Mrguss,
Thanks for your reply.

I have used the version on the link and still Vista comes up with the message "DVDShrink stopped working" even before finalising the installation.
I also made an exception rule in DEP but without the desired result.

Any suggestions?
If you insist to use DVD Shrink: Uninstall DVD Shrink a 100%....How:

1.- Erase the DVD Shrink exe.
Click Start and on "Start Search Box" Write: Prefetch and a folder will show up > Double Click the Prefetch Folder > find the DVD Shrink 3.2 exe File > Right Click on it and hit Delete.

2.- Uninstal DVD Shrink Program:
Start > Control Panel > Double click Programs and Features > find DVD Shrink File > Left click once then right click once and hit Uninstall.

3.- Re-Install a 100% Fresh Program of DVD Shrink.

Hope this help.
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Mokum67
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_ 		3. April 2010 @ 08:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ mistycat:
Thanks for mentioning DVDFab as alternative, I will give it a try. Hopefully it is as easy as DVDShrink.
From what I read it surely looks promissing...

@ Mrguss:
Thanks again for your support; I have followed your instruction, reboot before reinstalling a fresh version but...the same message popped up even before finalising: "DVDShrink stopped working".

What can I do now to make it work?
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Mokum67
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_ 		3. April 2010 @ 08:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi all,
Not giving up on searching for an alternative I ran into DVD Cloner 7 (http://www.dvd-cloner.com/).

When I read about this it appears to be the #1.

Is this really the case? Can one of you provide me with some feedback?

Thanks a lot.
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creaky
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_ 		3. April 2010 @ 09:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just passing thru; you'd be wise to search our forums for DVD Cloner.. i'd steer well clear personally..
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Mokum67
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_ 		3. April 2010 @ 10:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi creaky,
If you are talking about this forum it si not much of a help...and so far this is the only one the rest are from the stone age (2008 and earlier, so nothing about DVD Cloner VII)

http://forums.afterdawn.com/t.cfm/f-44/d...825742/#5093326

Do you have a link for me or can you tell me whether this is real?

Thanks.
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creaky
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_ 		3. April 2010 @ 11:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I wasn't talking about v7 of that software specifically, i've dug out a couple of threads for you ~

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/92001
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/456587

Bascially, the website of dvd-cloner itself should be proof enough to steer clear, the very design/layout smells of spam/scams and inferior software, regardless of any forum threads here talking about it..

edit- as for clonedvd, be careful of the non-Slysoft one, see here ~ http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/201330

Back to your first post above, if you're happy with DVD Shrink it's probably best to just get that working in Vista. I've never used Vista but i can confirm that Shrink most definitely works in Windows 7, see here for that and other Win7 info ~ http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/3/769480#4661854

Finally, it's been mentioned already but any non-free version of Shrink is fake, see here ~ http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/675820

..i'll add this post to the Ultimate sticky thread so people know to avoid DVD Shrink '2010' as well as the other scam versions.
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Mrguss
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_ 		3. April 2010 @ 16:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Mokum67:
 Hi all,
Not giving up on searching for an alternative I ran into DVD Cloner 7 (http://www.dvd-cloner.com/).

When I read about this it appears to be the #1.

Is this really the case? Can one of you provide me with some feedback?

Thanks a lot.
I have DVD Clone 5 and 6 Programs on a hard disc here (They release a new version once every 2 years I would say).....and I will tell you that is not a match at all with DVDFab or AnyDVD.....they are many months behind on updates ("$60" USA dollars).

Also try this....to link Vista with Shrink: (Same thing as with W-7)
Start > Right Click Computer > Properties > Advance System Settings > Advanced > Performance: Settings... > Data Execution Prevention > check Turn on DEP for all programs except those I select > make sure DVD Shrink 3.2 file Box is check (Tag) > Add... > OK > and finally re-start your PC.

I also have a question for you:
Are you running DVD Fab or AnyDVD before DVD Shrink to back-up new DVD's.....or maybe you just using DVD Shrink by itself ?

Cos the last update of DVD Shrink was made in 2004 and do not handle new encryptions and needs help from more up-to-date programs....you know !
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Mokum67
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_ 		5. April 2010 @ 08:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Mrguss,
As mentioned earlier I have tried the exception rule in DEP and it didn't work out.

Funniest thing is that I have tried some trial versions, like DVDFab, but most of the programs run into reading problems and in a next attempt I have used Nero recode and with excellent compress results.

Do you perhaps know whether you can use Nero recode in combination with AnyDVD to get rid of any protections?

Thanks for the feedback on DVD Cloner and for US$60 I leave it.

Cheers.
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cyprusrom
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_ 		5. April 2010 @ 10:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Mokum67:
 Hi Mrguss,
As mentioned earlier I have tried the exception rule in DEP and it didn't work out.

Funniest thing is that I have tried some trial versions, like DVDFab, but most of the programs run into reading problems and in a next attempt I have used Nero recode and with excellent compress results.

Do you perhaps know whether you can use Nero recode in combination with AnyDVD to get rid of any protections?

Thanks for the feedback on DVD Cloner and for US$60 I leave it.

Cheers.
You should be able to use Nero Recode with AnyDVD. If you don't want to spend the money, use DVDFab(the pay for version is a All-in-one package;after the trial is over, you will sill be able to decrypt/rip unlimited, just not to shrink;you can then use nero recode).
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Mokum67
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_ 		5. April 2010 @ 13:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Cyprusrom,
Thanks for the tip but paying is not my problem as long as software keeps working and you have to admit that when DVDFab has reading problems the outcome via Nero recode will be not optimal as well but, on the other hand, this is maybe just a one-time incident which Nero recode ignores.

Thanks again!

Cheers.
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creaky
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_ 		5. April 2010 @ 13:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Mokum67:
 Funniest thing is that I have tried some trial versions, like DVDFab, but most of the programs run into reading problems
That'll more likely be down to optical drives, not all are equal, hence why a lot of us regulars have more than one, and of different makes. If a disc doesn't read/rip properly on one drive it'll usually work find on a.n.other optical drive..
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Mrguss
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_ 		5. April 2010 @ 17:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Mokum67:
 Funniest thing is that I have tried some trial versions, like DVDFab, but most of the programs run into reading problems and in a next attempt I have used Nero recode and with excellent compress results.

Thanks for the feedback on DVD Cloner and for US$60 I leave it.

Cheers.
You Welcome.

Nero Recode, Clone DVD2 by Slysoft, DVD Rebuilder or even the all-in-one DVDFab versions are Alternatives for DVD Shrink !

Try to test your Burner with a Old Made Movie. Using a -RW if it is possible and, or External Burner too: just to make sure Vista is working Properly other way you might need to Re-Format.

Good luck !
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Mokum67
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_ 		7. April 2010 @ 01:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ creaky
Thanks for reminding me on the optical drives. I will keep that in mind.

@ Mrguss
What do you mean by re-formatting? What do I need to re-format?

Thanks both in advance.

Cheers.
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Mrguss
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_ 		7. April 2010 @ 04:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Re-format (Hard Disk Formatting):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reformat

Is what you did when you when from XP to Vista. But this time will be from Vista to Vista!
You did that by yourself or maybe somebody did for you ?

'Cos since is the first time; the PC do not recognize Vista 'cos is new to it, and some times you can experience problems.
The second time you do it from scratch....it can catch on it, on more smooth way.
NOTE: Is like download a Program; But in this case.....is the Main OS that run your PC.

Hope this help.
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Mokum67
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_ 		22. April 2010 @ 13:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi guys,
Sorry for my late reply but office life does sometimes not allow you to do what you want to do.

Any way, I have tried all of the above option and the best alternative working for me is DVDFab in combi with Nero Recode.

I like to thank all of you for the great support you have given.

Good luck & take care.

"As life is not predictable, we will meet again"
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Paula_X
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_ 		22. April 2010 @ 19:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
shrink works fine with fista.. just needs to be run as a standalone app.. NOT installed.. I found it seems to hit some kind of access conflict with nero8 .. never tried 9 .. don't support fista.. or wincrap7 for that matter.. just get lumbered occasionally..

look for a "bare" shrink32 exe file and load it when you want to shrink something.. ONLY use for it these days.. or grab a cracked fab of course.. and ditch that nero garbage bloatware.. getting as bad as roxio for conflicts with other software.

dvdfab.. shrink standalone if needed.. and imgburn.. who needs anything else~??
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cyprusrom
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_ 		23. April 2010 @ 01:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
DVD Shrink works fine on my Vista Home Premium x64, installed...I also have Nero 7.I use either of them very seldom, but works with no problem.
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