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24. April 2005 @ 01:48 |
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Oh right, damn my bad. Yeah does include monitor (not essential so price would be arond £500). And i thought under £900 was cheap !! ok thanx anyway.
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ddp
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24. April 2005 @ 07:29 |
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no problem, teach & learn
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srmp777
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25. April 2005 @ 06:51 |
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Hello
I am planning on building a computer very soon. I have a basic idea, on how to build one, and have an idea of what I will need.
I have some questions though
I will be purchasing an AMD motherboard, but I was still wondering what kind of processor I will need, and how I will know if it is compatible with with motherboard. I am looking for a processor speed of around 5ghz, or higher.
I also wanted to know, how to tell the difference between an AMD moter board, and an Intel.
Any help would be appreciated.
Have a great day
THank You
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1. May 2005 @ 06:11 |
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ddp
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1. May 2005 @ 09:24 |
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doesn't matter on what board you get because if intel changes the cpu dye like they did between northwood & prescott & your board could only take northwood but not prescott tho motherboard was able to go higher in speed than you are SOL.
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1. May 2005 @ 10:11 |
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but not prescott tho motherboard was able to go higher in speed than you are SOL.
I didn't understand that part.
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ddp
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1. May 2005 @ 10:25 |
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my previous p4 motherboard was capable of going to 3gig if using a northwood dye cpu. tried same speed prescott cpu as i had with a northwood cpu & motherboard wouldn't post. got a board that was capable of running both prescott & northwood dies cpus. so same can happen with that board you are looking at if intel changes the cpu dye that the board isn't capable of running tho still in the speed range of your board.
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merlin112
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5. May 2005 @ 16:25 |
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Unstable system...
I recently built the new computer and everything is fine except that when I turn it on, the screen remains blank. If I hit the reset button it starts up fine. When it doesn't start, the computer doesn't beep. I went back into the bios and restored the defaults and that did not work. I had it oc'd to 2.5+ and it did the same thing. Once it started everything was stable and this thing screams. I would just like to not have to start it two or three times to get her going. Any info???
AMD64 3000+ 1.8 Winchester 939 @ 2250 MHz
ASUS A8N-SLI NVIDIA NFORCE4 MOBO
ATI RADEON X700 PRO
1 GIG (2x512) DDR400 CORSAIR
HD - WESTERN DIGITAL 250 GB SATA
ASPIRE XNAVIGATOR 450W TURBO CASE
LITEON DVD READER
NEC 3520A DVD RW
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ddp
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5. May 2005 @ 16:49 |
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take the motherboard out of the case but still attached to the psu to see if you have a grounding problem
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merlin112
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5. May 2005 @ 17:04 |
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Meaning leave all else as is and remove the 8 screws, hold mobo in hand and press power? Statically grounded of course. What about all the wiring I have neatly tucked away? Also is the psu that came with the case an issue? 20 or 25 amps on the 12+ side. What about the sata hdd and my Optical drives being on the primary ide instead of the secondary since there is no hdd on the primary? The mobo has a lock for the periferals for oc'ing purposes. Any good reason that my old 800 Athlon is doing the same thing since I reconfigured drives and added Win XP? The two systems are hooked up via a KVM switch to one monitor, key board, and mouse.
Thanks for the input.
AMD64 3000+ 1.8 Winchester 939 @ 2250 MHz
ASUS A8N-SLI NVIDIA NFORCE4 MOBO
ATI RADEON X700 PRO
1 GIG (2x512) DDR400 CORSAIR
HD - WESTERN DIGITAL 250 GB SATA
ASPIRE XNAVIGATOR 450W TURBO CASE
LITEON DVD READER
NEC 3520A DVD RW
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ddp
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5. May 2005 @ 17:15 |
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both computers are doing the same since xp & drives change, correct?? try without the kvm switch. do you have a spare hd??
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merlin112
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5. May 2005 @ 18:09 |
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Yes, both computers are hanging before the post I think. (no beeps or drive spin, just fans and such) I also acquired a P4 Compaq from a buddy of mine (not as computer literate as I am) that crashed on him. Milwaukee PC told him he needed a new hd which would be $150ish. He opted to get a new computer w/out asking me first. I got the old one, replaced the NTLDR file and it now works fine. I took my new WD 80 gig (from my old system) and put it in the Comcrap along with the original 74 gig that came with it. Machine is for backing up dvd's. The old computer (800 athlon) has a WD 20 gig original to the build and a Seagate 10 gig from a different crashed Comcrap which had mobo issues.
The interesting part is that when I hook up the P4 with either of the two systems on the kvm, the compaq starts up just fine while the others always hang. I'm slightly stumped, none the less. Oh, and I suppose that I could take a hd out of one of the three to play with but why would that change anything?
Thanks again.
AMD64 3000+ 1.8 Winchester 939 @ 2250 MHz
ASUS A8N-SLI NVIDIA NFORCE4 MOBO
ATI RADEON X700 PRO
1 GIG (2x512) DDR400 CORSAIR
HD - WESTERN DIGITAL 250 GB SATA
ASPIRE XNAVIGATOR 450W TURBO CASE
LITEON DVD READER
NEC 3520A DVD RW
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ddp
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5. May 2005 @ 19:17 |
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to see if the windows version might have something to do with the problem tho doubt it. try the computers without using the kvm box.
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merlin112
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5. May 2005 @ 22:10 |
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OK. It's gonna have to wait till morning. I'm at work now. I'll let you know what happens. Thanks.
AMD64 3000+ 1.8 Winchester 939 @ 2250 MHz
ASUS A8N-SLI NVIDIA NFORCE4 MOBO
ATI RADEON X700 PRO
1 GIG (2x512) DDR400 CORSAIR
HD - WESTERN DIGITAL 250 GB SATA
ASPIRE XNAVIGATOR 450W TURBO CASE
LITEON DVD READER
NEC 3520A DVD RW
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Alien13
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20. May 2005 @ 17:23 |
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Hey
when i get a job im goin 2 build a pc. I was wondering if ne1 could list the things i need(case,fans,motherb,etc) and the sites you found them at with the price. But the only thing is it needs to be an aussie site. I know what to get just need help on what you think is good quality for a good price.
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merlin112
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21. May 2005 @ 06:36 |
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Well here goes, I built mine about a month ago. See my sig for list of components. I got almost everything off of Newegg.com. Seems that they have pretty good prices and I didn't feel like shopping around too much. The Australia thing I'm not too sure about but you could look into it. All prices are in USD.
Case = 95.00
Mem = 85.00
Mobo = 166.00
CPU = 146.00
NEC = 49.00
LITEON = 24.00
HD = 131.00
Video = 170.00 (Circuit City)
Floppy = 9.00
Wireless Keyboard and Mouse = 26.00
All about $1000.00 with shipping which was free on a few of the items. Depends on what you need it for. Mine is oc'd to 2.25 GHz with stock cooling and no memory or voltage tweeks. Think it will go up to about 2.5ish. At 1.8 it beats the P4 3.2 Extreme Edition in many of the benchmarks that I've seen. So again, what do you want to do with it. The other thing with AMD's is the CPU multiplier. They are locked so the only way to oc is to increase the fsb thus speeding up the whole system. My mobo has a pci lock so that doesn't speed up. The multiplier on the 3000+ is 9. On the 3200+ is 10. The 3400+ is 11, etc. More room for improvement but more money...
Good luck...
Joe
AMD64 3000+ 1.8 Winchester 939 @ 2250 MHz
ASUS A8N-SLI NVIDIA NFORCE4 MOBO
ATI RADEON X700 PRO
1 GIG (2x512) DDR400 CORSAIR
HD - WESTERN DIGITAL 250 GB SATA
ASPIRE XNAVIGATOR 450W TURBO CASE
LITEON DVD READER
NEC 3520A DVD RW
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merlin112
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21. May 2005 @ 06:39 |
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One more thing. For the fans, my case has 4 plus the 2 on the psu and one on the cpu of course. Stays pretty cool, around 38 oc'd with stock cooling. Also, the case has a fan controller to quiet it down if you want. The LITEON reader is the loudest component in my system.
AMD64 3000+ 1.8 Winchester 939 @ 2250 MHz
ASUS A8N-SLI NVIDIA NFORCE4 MOBO
ATI RADEON X700 PRO
1 GIG (2x512) DDR400 CORSAIR
HD - WESTERN DIGITAL 250 GB SATA
ASPIRE XNAVIGATOR 450W TURBO CASE
LITEON DVD READER
NEC 3520A DVD RW
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Alien13
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21. May 2005 @ 15:16 |
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Thanks for the info.
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leroy151
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21. May 2005 @ 21:12 |
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21. May 2005 @ 21:16 |
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Alien13
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21. May 2005 @ 21:20 |
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Would sum 1 be able to give me a site that has pics with step by step tutorial on hor to put it all together?
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merlin112
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23. May 2005 @ 14:36 |
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Putting it together isn't really that hard. Especially if you have an old cpu to open for a reference. Go to google and type in "pc building guide" or something along those lines. Biggest pain in the ass will be tucking all the wires away neatly. Use plenty of zip ties or twisties. Better you do with that the better cooling.
As far as the "ultimate system", it sounds pretty good. I prefer the Aspire X-Navigator cause it has a good psu and looks similar. It also has more fans with a controller built in and snap in drive trays. Very pleasant to work with. To each their own though, and the look might not be right for you. Looks like you'll have plenty of oc'ing ability...have fun.
Joe
AMD64 3000+ 1.8 Winchester 939 @ 2250 MHz
ASUS A8N-SLI NVIDIA NFORCE4 MOBO
ATI RADEON X700 PRO
1 GIG (2x512) DDR400 CORSAIR
HD - WESTERN DIGITAL 250 GB SATA
ASPIRE XNAVIGATOR 450W TURBO CASE
LITEON DVD READER
NEC 3520A DVD RW
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merlin112
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23. May 2005 @ 14:39 |
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I wish I would've found this forum a lot sooner. I hate being labled as a Newbie...
AMD64 3000+ 1.8 Winchester 939 @ 2250 MHz
ASUS A8N-SLI NVIDIA NFORCE4 MOBO
ATI RADEON X700 PRO
1 GIG (2x512) DDR400 CORSAIR
HD - WESTERN DIGITAL 250 GB SATA
ASPIRE XNAVIGATOR 450W TURBO CASE
LITEON DVD READER
NEC 3520A DVD RW
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Alien13
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23. May 2005 @ 23:02 |
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Thanks for all the help. Also i have an old comp that runs really slow. I was wondering what i should upgrade on it to make it run faster. here is a summary from EVEREST Home Edition:
CPU type: intel IIIE, 733 MHz (5.5 x 133)
System memory: 64 MB
motherboard name: MSI MS-6309
and it's a 10 gig hard drive.
If u need ne more info tell me what it is n i will try find it. Thanks
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datageek
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24. May 2005 @ 01:52 |
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Just need some feed back on this proposed system I'm thinking of putting together. Mainly for analog to digital conversion and record off the TV or satalite for the wife.
Pentium 4 2.4ghz 533fsb 1mb
Asus P4C800 E-deluxe
DDR PC3200 1 gb
WD 120gb hd x2
WINTV 150 or 250
SAPPHIRE ATLANTIS RADEON 9600XT 256MB 128-bit AGP 4X/8X or
GIGABYTE GV-R96P128DE 128MB 128-bit DDR AGP 4X/8X
Pioneer A107 burner
of course the case and pwr supply and other misc to finish it off - I chose the P4C800 for expandability later on when the 3.0ghz cpu's come down in price. Good Basic ides?? tia
Asus PC-DL Xeon, Antec Lan boy, Pioneer A107, DVD rom, Dual 1.6ghz LV's @ 2.89ghz, 4x 512 Mushkin, 2x WD 120gb hd, 2x WD 80gb Sata, XP Pro SP2, PS 500w, WinTV 250 PCI, ATI agp Video Card
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