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poopsquaw
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17. July 2006 @ 13:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
About the AMD price drop, does this mean that as soon as I get my processor a new and better one will come out?
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17. July 2006 @ 20:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
A couple of things, the documentation I got with my new AMD processor said that if you don't use their heat sink and fan, their warranty if void. Be careful if you "upgrade".

Also, as I was spec-ing out my new system, it was pointed out to me that if you buy a dual core processor, you should be running either XP Media or XP Professional, because XP Home does not recognize the dual processor. This a little beyond me, but that's what I understood - and I've got to say that my new system is significantly faster than any other system that I have seen.

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17. July 2006 @ 22:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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does this mean that as soon as I get my processor a new and better one will come out?
That'll happen no matter what you do, what you buy or when you buy it. It's a lovely fact of life when it comes to building PCs.

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it was pointed out to me that if you buy a dual core processor, you should be running either XP Media or XP Professional, because XP Home does not recognize the dual processor
According to AMD XP Home will run dual core processors just fine,

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Weblets/0,,7832_8366_7595~95364,00.html



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17. July 2006 @ 23:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the new amd2 isnt going to be much of a gain .iam sure the next generation (amd3) is going to be the one to watch.

mmay256 ,you posted false info. there .xp home runs the amd dual-cores fine ,there was a windows update to fix that problem many months ago. so you dont need pro or media center to run dual-core guys
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18. July 2006 @ 01:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
pcrepair:

Good point about the HSF. It's there to make things a bit quiter. Also, what Hard Drives do you reccomend if Maxtors run hot as in a small case I will need something that runs cooler.

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18. July 2006 @ 02:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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19. July 2006 @ 02:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think I will go WD then. Only a few £'s more than the equivalent Maxtor model. Suppose its better then running a higher risk of frying everything.

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19. July 2006 @ 15:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi,

Im building a new computer and im looking for a nice quiet case...A mid tower case tht has good cooling and low noise..with or without a ps, doesnt matter, im putting in an antec trupower 550w anyway. heres the specs:

Asus M2N32 AM2
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+
2GB DDR2 Corsair XMS pro pc6400
BFG 7900GT 256mb OC pci-e
Antec trupower 550watt ps
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19. July 2006 @ 15:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've been very pleased with my Thermaltake Tsunami. I think it looks real sharp, the airflow is good and the supplied fans are fairly quiet :)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811133132



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andre112
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Nice, thanks for the heads up on tht case :) Now i have 3 cases to choose from haha. Others tht werent too shabby: Antec p150(http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=4043) and the Asus TA21A (http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=4466))
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22. July 2006 @ 05:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm getting close to a completed list here, but still would like some input before I order later today or tomorrow. Here's where I'm at right now:

Keyboard and Mouse - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16823109156

Hard Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148140

Ram - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145587

Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131568

Video Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814143037

Power Supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103931

Cooling Fan - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835118223

Processor - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103562

CD Rom Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827101411

As you can see, I have no case, sound card, or modem. I guess I kind of ran into a dead end on those. Also, I was thinking that I should probably get a surge protector in case of lightning or something? Well, I look forward to a reply and thanks in advance.
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22. July 2006 @ 06:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
poopsquaw---(love that name)Actually that board you linked has onboard sound and LAN (unless you need dial-up modem) so you should be fine with that.
I suggest a sound card, but not needed to get your system going.

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22. July 2006 @ 09:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
In a few of the reviews there were negative comments about the onboard sound, so I would like to go ahead and not use that. But that's awesome that I don't need a modem. Thanks.
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22. July 2006 @ 10:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Most people would wish to avoid onboard sound, like me. Get a cheap SB audigy card for PCI (mine was £17 for 7.1 24-bit EAX). much better!



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poopsquaw
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22. July 2006 @ 10:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Audigy, got it. So I'm guessing there's no real problems with the parts I selected? A case and I'm all set?
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22. July 2006 @ 11:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
poopsquaw ,everything looks great ,remember the AMD 3800x2 will have a price drop this coming tues.

one thing i would do different is get a CD/DVD-ROM instead of just a CD-ROM .it will only be about 6 or 7 bucks more.

yeah get an good sound card , i linked you some cases in an earlier post a while back so look though thoses. there were ATX and Antec.

the keyboard looks great but if you can swing it get the Logitech MX-1000 Laser mouse ,i have one and its great for gaming.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?DEPA=0&type=&Descri...

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Audigy is what I use, and I agree about not using the onboard sound. I was making sure it wasnt overlooked like the LAN connection was! :)
I also agree with aabbccdd about choice of optical drives.
You went through all this trouble, find a case you really like and and dont let a few dollars (marks, pounds, euros) steer you away from that one thing you like the most!


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poopsquaw
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22. July 2006 @ 12:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
aabbccdd, I'll be waiting on the processor, but everything else I will order asap, thanks for the headsup on that again. As for the drives, I bought a pretty nice NEC dvd drive in order to play Oblivion, so that should work well for my slave drive, no? Mouse looks great, and afterall this computer is for gaming mostly. I'll reveiw the cases again, I guess I'm just worried that once I pick one it won't work with some of my parts, but we'll see what happens I guess.

Deadrum33, thanks for filling me in about the mobo, made me feel kind of stupid though. But yes, I feel like I have went through a lot and I will for sure not let a price scare me away from something if I really want it. Thanks for the advice.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829102002
How's that sound card? I will post a case before I order that also. I have leftover money in budget, so if there is anything that can be upgraded for better performance and not a whole lot of money I'll seriously consider that.
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22. July 2006 @ 12:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes that sound card will work fine.

is the NEC a CD/DVD burner? or just a ROM drive ,because i would def.have a burner for CDS and DVDS. shoot me back about that so we know
poopsquaw
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22. July 2006 @ 12:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, I went all out on that drive. It's DVD Rom, DVD-RW, and CD-RW. That should cover all the bases shouldn't it?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811146025 <-- How is that case? I'm not sure if it will work with my mobo or not.

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22. July 2006 @ 12:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes thats great but you will want a CD/DVD-ROM for your second drive so you can use that drive for a reader for BOTH CDs and DVDs that way you can use the second drive for a everyday drive to play games load programs etc. and save the burner (NEC) from the wear a tear for using it for everthing. heres a few to look though

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?DEPA=0&type=&Descri...

this would be my pic for the money

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827106028

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poopsquaw
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22. July 2006 @ 12:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I understand what you meant now, makes a lot of sense. That first link should suit my needs perfectly. My goal is a system that will easily run any games out there, and stay on top for quite a while before upgrading. I feel like each post from you guys gets me close, so thanks again. AfterDawn should pay you, or I should. One of the two.
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22. July 2006 @ 12:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the nice thing about Lite-On drives too you can do the Nero quality scans. looks like a nice case iam pretty sure everything you picked out will work fine. i would double check to make sure though.

whos doing your build?

and we do this because we enjoy helping others ,you are going to end up with a very nice system for the money
poopsquaw
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22. July 2006 @ 12:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm am very glad that you enjoy helping people so much. Honestly, I hope you take a lot of pride in the amount of knowledge you have in this area. How did you learn so much, by the way?

As for the build, my brother-in-law and I will be doing it next weekend. It will be a nice bonding experience. I've printed off instructions from a few different websites, and he knows more than me about it already so we should be fine.

So does this mean I'm all set? Don't need to go a step higher on anything?
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22. July 2006 @ 13:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
other than an OS you have that right windows xp home/pro etc.
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