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aabbccdd
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10. September 2006 @ 21:32 |
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i agree noone needs two 7950 GX2s that card takes up 2 PCI slot anyway. i have it
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11. September 2006 @ 11:42 |
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I am in waiting for two Benq 1655s, but still need two more drives for how I want to set things up. I was going to get all of them Benq 1655s but thought it would be more profitable to play around with some other drives at a simulior price range. Can anyone suggest two more dives that will work well. I was thinking maybe a Lit-on because Ive heard some good stuff about their drives? They do not really need to be lightscibe or dual layer beause the benqs are both. Thanks you people here in this form and Doc TY have helped me with much and I am very happy with the machine you guys have help me build though out the couple of years roaming around this site... came to the point that this thread and Docs are a health of info to partake in... you guys are great! Keep up the good work.
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11. September 2006 @ 23:17 |
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herrick, if you aren't going with the Plextor drives then YES Lite-On would be your best choice
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12. September 2006 @ 00:26 |
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Looked at the Plextors and they are kinda exspensive...Im just a poor boy try'en to get by. I did not see after hrs. of looking a plextor under $50.00- So I was try'en to find a Benq 1650... is there a Lite-on that does the same for cheaper???
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12. September 2006 @ 01:16 |
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Ryan91
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13. September 2006 @ 11:04 |
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Why an amd rig?
Intel honestly has the better proc right now..
now even i root for the underdog.. but the underdog is going to act like the underdog sometimes..
the conroe system will be cheaper.. and better..
the amd fx62 is stupid personally.
but i am currently building an intel system built around the 4mg core..
the um.. the 6600 i think
that will stomp all over an fx62..
i think you are just getting am2 to wait for k8..
have fun with that..
and their is no reason for the nvidia.. get an X1900XT and you will be good.. and make sure u get the ATi 3200 chipset..
THAT would be a kick ass system!
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13. September 2006 @ 12:11 |
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Yeah, I think you're overestimating the Conroe a bit. The E6600 will only match an FX62 not beat it, overclocking it'll do better, but it takes an E6700, X6800 or X6900 to beat one stock, and those cost too much compared with the FX62.
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Ryan91
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13. September 2006 @ 16:14 |
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NOT true..
the 6600 cost 350.00 ish..
the FX62 cost about what? 820.00 at newegg!!
I dont think it is worth 450.00 dollars just to get equal performance..
SERIOUSLY..
if it means that much to you get the 6800.. that will kick the FX62...
seriously..
amd needs a new architecture..
now dont get me wrong i am a huge amd fan..
but come on people this is just plain arrogance.
but you building an conroe system will be better than the amd.. and will give you more money to invest..
btw: Crossfire is better..
if you want me to expain.. go to tomshardware..
it describes what crossfire is.. and i dont know how sli works.. but the sli from what i have herd.. does not offer that much of a performance increase..
ttfn
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14. September 2006 @ 02:06 |
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I wrote about disliking dual graphics set ups once, and got flamed for it so badly I'm just about cooling off now. In my opinion, SLi is slightly better performance wise, but neither are fantastic, both with certain games they fail to work at all in. SLi performance goes up with resolution, as does Crossfire, but crossfire maxes out at about 70%, whereas SLi will carry on all the way to 110-120. Crossfire is more user-friendly, not needing two identical cards (people who moan about crossfire's external cable, come on, get real, how can that possibly bother you) and is very attractive in some games, beating SLi. But on the whole nVidia has dual graphics in the bag.
I wouldn't recommend the FX-62 that much either, bar to "money is no object and I want an AMD" users. The 4600+ and 5000+ are very viable options over here, however.
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Ryan91
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14. September 2006 @ 11:39 |
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sorry to say.. but until amd comes out with somthing better..
edited by ddp to BUILD a amd rig.. that does not mean you cant update a 939 or am2 but.. a new rig should be conroe with price difference..
anyone price vs. performance should go with conroe..
unless they are that headstrong with amd..
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14. September 2006 @ 23:21 |
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Ryan91, tell me whats wrong with my system (per my sig) thats a stupid statement.
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14. September 2006 @ 23:54 |
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You know... I work all day with people that are at their ends, their mad, hateful and ungrateful-maybe a couple of times a day I will see some thankfulness... I do enjoy reading the couple threads I read daily, and cannot measure the amount of knowledge I have recieved at Aferdawn. People are willing to give what many charge an arm and a leg for. It is sad that you have to read the garbage above... why in Gods name would you name call? what gives anyone the right to attack some else's character. Why should I be subjected to this garbage- I come here to deal with educated men and women who's only desire is to help one another, I do not come here to read such filth! If I want to do that I will read the side of a building down town that are done by hateful young people. If you cannot Convey your point in a civil manner maybe one should not speak at all " It is better to not speak at all and be thought of as a fool... Then to open ones mouth and remove all doubt"
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15. September 2006 @ 12:32 |
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Ryan91, knock off the attitude as it will not be tolerated here at all!! all we as in the members can do is offer suggestions, what the poster does with that info is upto him/her not us!!
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Ryan91
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15. September 2006 @ 13:01 |
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Listen.. I really dont care what any of you say..
all i am saying that it for new buildiers who are building a new system from a 754 or socket A or an old intel should go with conroe because of the performance over price..
dont hate..
if i do have an attitude.. u must understand that i have a reason for it..so have sympathy.. and ddp i dont know who killed my old profie.. but that was not needed.. i am not hatting.. but that was well unnessesary..
and their is nothing wrong with any of yalls computers..as i said befor.. it is good for a completely new system.. that is all.. i am not hatting on anyones computer..
And.. herrick .. seriously.. i am glad you got your rant out. because if you would take a sec and reread what i wrote.. you would understand that i am not a bad person.. U just need to learn how to read.. really.. that is done with my ranting. and it was not ranting.. i was just stating OPINIONS..
So ddp.. dont band me.. sammorris and herrick and aabbccdd please re-read, and think.. i am not yelling.. but the attacks were uncalled for..
So we are back to normal..
what does anyone think of Intels new Xeon processors? going from 3.8 to 1.6... amazing.. did netburst suck that bad? lmao
ttfn,
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15. September 2006 @ 13:22 |
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Despite my previous misgivings, I side with ddp on this one. Come on Ryan, you know better than that. AMD processors still cut it in some markets in the UK.
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dougisjc
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15. September 2006 @ 14:12 |
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Hey guys...the front side USB's on my new Sonata II case with my PC build don't seem to be responding at all. I tried to install the drivers from my mobo cd (there was something that said USB 2.0 Drivers), and it said I needed Windows Service Pack. I did windows update...and it still doesn't work. ANy idea what might be wrong?
Also...what are good temperatures for the "CPU" and "system"? I think mine are reading in at 45 C and 35 C respectively. My case fan has 3 speeds (right now it's on high) and it's a little loud, so I"m thinking I might be able to lower it...at least when I"m not doing any gaming or other demanding applications.
THanks!
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ddp
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15. September 2006 @ 14:24 |
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what service pack is installed & what make of chipset is on the mb as in via, sis, intel or amd??
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15. September 2006 @ 14:28 |
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Those temps are fine. If you have the service packs, are you absolutely sure the USB ports are plugged in right?
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15. September 2006 @ 14:47 |
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15. September 2006 @ 14:53 |
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Looks pretty damn sweet, Ryan! Only thing, X850XT PEs, aren't they typically expensive? May want to compare that to an X1900GT price-wise. If the latter isn't much more, then go for that.
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15. September 2006 @ 15:15 |
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aabbccdd,this may interest you:
and anyone else with a non premium A8N-sli motherboard.
Are you stuck with an old ASUS A8N-SLI (Non-Deluxe and Deluxe) motherboard? If you are, then we have some good news for you. As you probably know, ASUS has stopped releasing BIOS updates for these motherboards. The last BIOS update was at the end of 2005. We?ve discovered that it?s possible to flash the Premium BIOS on the normal A8N-SLI motherboard, or even the deluxe version.
What will you gain from flashing the premium BIOS on the normal A8N-SLI?
* Updated BIOS with many fixes and updates
* Better support for memory modules
* Better overclocking ability
* Support for GeForce 7950GX2
* Ability to change chipset voltage
* Ability to change HT voltage
Go Here:
http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=articles&go=read&arc_id=111
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 15. September 2006 @ 15:16
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15. September 2006 @ 15:19 |
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Yeah that's interesting. Interested me anyway!
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15. September 2006 @ 15:28 |
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sam,I posted that one for you at the other thread but thought I'd post it here as well.Just remember, there is a couple of options you need to turn off in the bios before you do it.Have a careful read and you should be ok.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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15. September 2006 @ 15:31 |
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Mmm, I'll consider it, but for the moment I have a separate issue to sort. I got a crash at 10% and thought" oh crap don't tell me it isn't even stable there" but it turns out said crash also occurs stock. It's something to do with having two IcyBoxes and transferring data between them. It's only ever happened when I've been doing that.
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Ryan91
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15. September 2006 @ 16:01 |
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yeah.. yeah..
but i have the X850XT at the PE speeds.. thats what i am saying.. all together it was 100.00 for the 850XT.. while it performs like a 7800GT..
i am not going to complain.. :)
but i would have gotten that card..
but i was not wanting 256mg.
i am learning..
so it will be a good compy i am guessing?
i will have aroung 800 after selling my current compy.. :)
ttfn,
Ryan
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