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15. September 2006 @ 16:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, to be fair, the RAM's irrelevant, the 1900GT is faster. An X850XT is nothing to sneeze at though, especially for that price. That will be an ace PC.



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15. September 2006 @ 16:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I know.. not i just have to wait until christmas :)
my next door neibor who is 13 just got a sempy 2.0 with an an X1600 built in.. 1 gig of ram ... 80gig 7200..

I am about to cry... :(
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15. September 2006 @ 23:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
crowy , THANKS for the info. will look into this

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16. September 2006 @ 00:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
aabbccdd,
your welcome.Let us know how it goes.Have a good read first,I noticed you have the deluxe version so there is no need to disable anything in your bios.For the SLI/(NON-deluxe and SE versions)there's a few options you need to disable in your bios before you proceed.Do it right and you'll have a very good value premium board.



If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein

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LMAO "Very Good Value Premium Board"
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Nice..
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17. September 2006 @ 18:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
High guys...

I've seen some of you post pictures on this forum. Can you tell me hwo you did that? I'd like to post my PC build so maybe you will be able to identify if i've missed something in trying to connect my frontside USB. I still haven't gotten that working yet.

Thanks!
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17. September 2006 @ 18:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dougisjc,
theres a few free image hosing sites around,imageshack is a good one.
Go here:
http://imageshack.us/
Hit browse,find the image on your computer(your screen capture or photo)then hit resize for message boards 640x480 (If it's a large image)then click host it.
When the next page loads left click and drag over direct link to image(the last option) then right click,click copy,then paste into the reply box.Put
[img]before the link and[/img] after the link.Then hit the reply box and your done!!



If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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17. September 2006 @ 19:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   



I hope that works. Let me know if you see anything missing with my frontside USB connection. I have an ASUS P5B Socket T (LGA 775) Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard and a Sonata II case.

Thanks guys!
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17. September 2006 @ 19:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Also...

I put the fan and heatsink on facing the correct way, right? I'm pretty sure it's right...

The USB connectors, I believe, are in the front there (those two grey cables coming out). Not sure what else to try at this point.

Thanks!
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17. September 2006 @ 19:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dougisjc,
Go here and make sure your usb connectors are right:

http://www.directron.com/installusb.html

Have you installed the usb drivers??

The heatsink fan is right.



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17. September 2006 @ 22:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm sure that the the heatsink should be rotated anti-clockwise 90 degrees.
The idea is that it pulls air through the fan into the main body and then out towards the exhaust fan, then the warm air is pulled straight out of the case.
At present your warm air is being pushed towards the PSU, where it just increases that components temp.


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17. September 2006 @ 23:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
BigDK,If it was rotated 90degrees anti clockwise I think it would take the top off of the ram!!



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17. September 2006 @ 23:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That will only be seen when he tries it.
It doesn't change the fact that it is still the optimal position for heatsink.
The correct position is as I stated, if he is forced to use it the other way around, then that is a limitation of the boards design for use with that heatsink, in which case you would come to the conclusion that the wrong heatsink was bought for the setup.


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17. September 2006 @ 23:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
BigDK,I agree with what your saying whole heartedly,
but when he asked if it was right,I noticed the ram would interfere with the fan on the heatsink(at least that's how it looks in the pic).Any other way would be totally wrong.



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18. September 2006 @ 00:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well this is not one of my wiser moves,but... I put a Digital thermal controller in place of my floppy... I was not sure how it got the info...after opening the box I noticed it had sencers? Then I felt really stupid- had nothing to do at the time sooo.. put it in! after monitering it for a few days the CPU senser is 10 c off from my asus software, it has not changed from that ratio for 3 days now- I guess what Im asking is, other then fan control- this thing is worthless- is there anyway to put the [3] sencers that will be profitable?

Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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18. September 2006 @ 00:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Also for the heat pipes to work efficiently they need to be oriented horizontally:
http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/freezerpro/

So for the given configuration I'd leave it as it is.



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18. September 2006 @ 00:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I use thermal sensors on Graphics card, hard disks, motherboard and power supply. The CPU one is irrelevant, showing a max of 40 when the CPU's 55C, because it can only tell you how warm the air around the heatsink is, rather than the temperature of the processor. Trouble is, since I didn't install it, I need to work out which numbers are which!



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18. September 2006 @ 00:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
herrick,
Judging by all the hardware you have crammed in that box I'm suprised you had any room for it!!ROFL!!



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18. September 2006 @ 01:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ sammorris
Can you tell me were you put the sencers [vid. card, Mobo,HD- detail info please]on your machine? I put mine on the other side of the fan on my vid. card [have 2 ]and in the middle of my c/ drive and of coarse the heat sink of CPU.

@ crowy
Yep... big case, but crowded... as long as the temps are good- dont really matter to me, although need to put some effert in my wiring, but going to add two more drives and get rid of the sony optic so will deal with that then... what does ROFL mean? can you tell I really do not chat much... AH,AH,AH,

Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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18. September 2006 @ 01:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I realize my sig. is ... well over kill, but I am really new at this building and I want to give you people the most info. I can with out retyping it all the time...

Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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18. September 2006 @ 01:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's why I put my system there too.
It's not so much where "I put" the sensors on my hardware, more I asked my system builder to put them on certain places and I can give you the locations they chose.
On my X1900XT they put one on the circuit board just behind the bracket that keeps the heatsink on. For the motherboard, it's attached to the board just to the left (as you look inside the case) of the chipset heatsink. The hard disk sensors are placed on the labels on the top of the drives, the PSU sensor is on the bottom of the front-side of the unit, underneath the modular connectors, and the CPU one is placed just outside the bracket that the Zalman uses to attach. I'll try and make a pictorial of it to make it a bit clearer.



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18. September 2006 @ 05:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
herrick,
ROFL= roll on the floor laughing!!



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18. September 2006 @ 05:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Guy's go here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=103638
This is the most accurate temp monitor I've used.
Regards Crowy.



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18. September 2006 @ 05:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey guys...did everyone come to a consensus on if my fan is connected correctly or not? I think it might be. I think it sucks air through it, so it's pulling air away from the stuff at the bottom (GPU and everything else) and back into the power supply area, and then the case fan is supposed to blow that air out the back of the case. In the case (or mobo maybe) manual it showed the fan facing the GPU and PCI slots I think. So I assumed that was correct. In any case though, my case temps seem reasonable. 45ish degree C for CPU and 35C for (...well i forgot...but you get the idea, haha). Nothing seems to be getting abnormal hot, so I'm probably ok. GPU seemed to be slightly warm, so I moved that network adapater card to the bottom PCI slot. Not sure if that really does anything, but it creates some separation and the fan on the GPU should be able to blow air away more freely now.

Thanks for the link Crowly. I'll take a look tonight. I didn't plug in that connector with all those little prongs...so thats' probably the problem.
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18. September 2006 @ 05:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thosetemps are good for full load, a bit high for idle though. Chipset temp is fine, but CPU is a little on the warm side, which suggests the CPU cooler isn't in a proper place. I'd generally avoid blowing air from the CPU in the vicinity of the PSU, they get hot enough on their own, and with all that hot air blowing on them, they will get hot indeed. The problem is that that PSU as far as I can see has an end mounted fan, not bottom mounted fan, so you're just blowing air onto the PSU. If it had an inward blowing fan on the bottom such as the PSU me and herrick use, it can take that air outside easily. Without, it's blowing around making things warmer. The better position for that HSF is, as was said before to have the fan facing the RAM, so the air goes directly out the back of the case. The AC Freezer also has bent fins at the back to cool the voltage regulators on your board, if it's set up facing that way. This of course assumes the cooler will clear your RAM. it should, due to the height of the fan above the board surface, but no guarantees as I don't use it. Also bear in mind every time you move the cooler after running the system up you'll need to change the thermal transfer material, so plan well!



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