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dougisjc
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18. September 2006 @ 06:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Shoot! That is NOT what I wanted to hear, haha. Putting that beast of a fan on the CPU is the hardest part. It doesn't fit into the mobo very easily. It was a big pain and always a shady operation when you're jamming things into a mobo. Good thing they're durable.

Is it really a good idea to take it off the CPU? I get uneasy about removing that too, and then adding more thermal compound and everything. I'd hate to risk damaging something.

Weird that the manuals were misleading with their setup pictures. Maybe it was a different case with a different layout though...not sure.
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18. September 2006 @ 06:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What did the manual suggest?



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18. September 2006 @ 07:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The manual just showed a picture that looked like my setup. The fan was facing the GPU and PCI slots. It was a bad picture and pretty vague though. I'll have to look again.
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18. September 2006 @ 07:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm not sure my old AC cooler came with a manual at all.



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18. September 2006 @ 07:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here is the manual for the Sonata II case...

http://www.antec.com/pdf/manuals/SonataI...II%20connect%22

It says there's an intel standard 10-pin connector. I think taht's what I plugged into the USB jacks at the bottom of my mobo - look for grey cable coming from the front of my case in the picture I posted previously. Didn't seem to respond though. That cable going to the bottom left of my case is the one with all those different individual connectors attached. I have the main standard Intel 10-pin connector, but not the extra prong things. Not sure where those would go.

anyone have any idea? Thanks!
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18. September 2006 @ 08:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dougisjc, leave the cpu fan heatsink alone for now. the multi-pin connectors is the audio cable according to bottom of page 5 of manual.
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18. September 2006 @ 10:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ddp....are you saying the one solid blue 10-pin connector is the audio cable? So then the individual wire prong-type connectors are for the USB? I'm still confused on the front side USB issue...but i'll play with it tonight and see if I can follow the link that Crowy posted regarding that issue as well. Apparently front USBs can be a tricky thing...so i'm not the only dummy out there! haha
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18. September 2006 @ 16:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the blue connector is probably usb & individual pins is audio
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26. September 2006 @ 13:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
NVIDIA geforce 2 mx/mx 400

i need to know if this card can even play WoW on low settings please can someone help me out? I told me best friend thatd id ask a tech forum coz shes all like NOOOO i cant get WoW?
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i don't play World of Warcraft but i have a couple MX400's and they play Quake 3 Arena a treat



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In all honesty, that card is an antique. Time to find something better. Quake 3 as creaky said wouldn't be a problem, as I've played that on 64MB integrated graphics flawlessly. Not sure whether WoW is so leniant. A lot of games now stress an absolute minimum of Geforce 3 or more...



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quite right, some of my machines can only use certain cards and i never go bleeding edge with PC's, far too much big money with massive depreciation for my liking. It's one reason why i gave up keeping up with the popular PC games, it just became too expensive. They're good cards, you just have to know their limits. I bought another MX400 a few days ago just so that i could drive my new 19" widescreen TFT at 1440x900, finding it played Quake 3 Arena nicely was a bonus :)

e.g. i could (fairly cheaply) buy a PC that is faster than my fastest PC (Athlon 2800XP) for burning DVD's but i thought what the hell, and bought a cheap P3 dual CPU m/board to run a couple P3 866's for yet another linux box instead (burner PC is more that fast enough for me). No reason, just happen to have a huge Supermicro SC-750A case sat there for a few years (that cost me £186 new, back in the day), might put my spare MX400 in there; again no reason, it's just a spare card that might as well get used instead of being sold for peanuts or gathering (more) dust.

PS wow looks like the admins have coded the functionality so that when you edit a post you're taken back to that post instead of first page of thread - yay



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Oh fantastic, that always used to bug me! Yeah, I'm amazed you can still buy MX400s, where are you finding them? They must be amazingly cheap! In fact, I wouldn't mind picking one up to pass the minimum spec of Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07 on my Grandad's machine. It's tiny 145W (proprietary) PSU means any modern card would probably be too much...



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just on eBay, they're dirt cheap. i even went as far as a Geforce GTS Pro or whatever it's called but it was faulty so just plumped for another MX400. Deciphering forums such as this and google just to work out what graphics card to get takes too long for me so i just buy what i need for the job in hand, can't keep up with all the new PC stuff



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I don't blame you. I may be ahead now, but I won't be for long, I'm not rich like lots of aD users seem to be!



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26. September 2006 @ 14:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i took that card out of my system last week & put in a geforce ti 128meg
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26. September 2006 @ 14:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, I am soon to change OS from XP to XP media Center... I have always went for cooling temp before sound- now I need to change! I have 6 fans in my case... and yes it sounds like a rocket taking off, SO my question is after I pick a PCU fan [Thinking on going w/ the Arctic freezer 64 pro] what fans should I use? I use stock 80mm in the rear and I am not sure what is on the top and side, but they are weak and load.- Any suggestion on a case would be much loved... Having so many fans ? does this make for noise disorder?

Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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26. September 2006 @ 14:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i used to have 14 fans in my SC-750A case, and all that was in there was a Voodoo 3500 and a P3 600E overclocked to a P3 800 or something; that case was like a jet engine passing by :)
When i reuse that case next week there'll be a helluva lot less fans this time around.
Now i'm sat listening to the almost-stock fan on my Athlon 2800XP and that's way more loudness than i'd like to put up with.

Methinks the other guys would be better placed to discuss fans :P



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Well, I am soon to change OS from XP to XP media Center...

i dont think you want to do that unless determined to hook up your XBOX.
IMO media center is more of a pain and harder to keep stable than regular XP.
There are many sites dedicated to what you can and cannot use with MCE and there is a very specific order of driver installation and audio/video codecs to make it all work. If you decide to go ahead with it, dont be afraid to post back or PM me for any help.

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26. September 2006 @ 15:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Not tryen to hook up any gaming... just thought it would be cool to watch tv and DVD w/ a remote from my bed instead of my 27 in out of date and ready for the bone yard tv... the fonts are large and I can get a remote that is point and aim., and the cerser will follow where ever i point on the media center?

Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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any boby know which hsf is best on a socket 754 board? possibly with a big fan and low rpm
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From what I've seen, it is easiest to use XP and the programs that comes with your hardware instead of letting MCE do it for you.
EXAMPLE:Watch TV you need a TV tuner card. Tv tuner comes with its own programs but MCE wont accept them because it already has recorder tools. So you are without all the software to go with hardware and need to search for specialized utilities to go with MCE. The computer would stall sometimes when I have too many audio/video files open at once but after about the 3rd install I was able to do everything in order the right way through trial and error.

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26. September 2006 @ 16:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
14 fans? Why? I have barely more than half that in my system!



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26. September 2006 @ 16:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
iv got 5 and two are on heatsinks
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26. September 2006 @ 17:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi, I'm looking to get more storage space for my laptop and came up with two options. Would you recomend buying an exteranl HDD(such as the WD My Book 250 GB - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822136022) or buying an external enclosure (Kingwin TL-35USBS - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817121184) with an internal drive (WD Caviar 320 GB- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822136003)? The difference between the two is about $20 and 70 GB.

Thanks for you advice.

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