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26. September 2006 @ 22:59 |
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@sammorris - 'twas simply because the case allowed you to - http://arstechnica.com/reviews/1298/sc750a.html
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It's huge.
The SC-750A is an amazingly large case, even for it's size. Heh. It's almost like one of those little Clown Cars you see on TV from time to time. You keep stickin' funny little things into this mammoth and it never seems to fill up.
- it was just because i had loads of spare fans. the thing was noisy enough that it didn't hurt to add more fans; (to be fair it came with quite a few fans as standard anyway); daft really but that was some years ago ie before i had kids and had way too much free time :P
found another nice review here - http://www.bluesmoke.net/review3.html
@eparker89 - our firm has just bought one or two if the 'book' things but as i don't work with Windows much (at work) i don't know how it's getting on but my firm skimp on as much as they can so they're probably going to use it for something it wasn't designed for as per usual so any feedback i could give on it would be biased i'm afraid. I personally just use/recommend USB2.0 enclosures with hard disk of your choice. At the moment i use a cheap Safecom USB2.0 enclosure on my laptop with a 120GB hard disk. It's partitioned with FAT32 in 3x 30GB chunks and a 4th FAT32 chunk of the remainder. This is because it's primarily used on my Linux laptop as an MP3/miscellaneous set of drives that i can easily (and lazily) just unmount from Linux and mount on another PC (Windows) and back again without any issues
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27. September 2006 @ 01:06 |
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Interesting way of doing it. All my external drives are just one large partition, 147GB FAT32 on J, and 232GB NTFS for both M and N.
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27. September 2006 @ 02:52 |
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multiple partitions gives me flexibility/clarity from the command line in Linux and Unix (as the command line is where i spend most time, either at work or at home); i end up with 4 different mountpoints and they have the "Windows" names also, i see for example /mnt/MP3_1 as one 'disk', /mnt/MUSIC_VIDS as another, and so on; so (in Linux) as opposed to having one huge disk that obviously has various directories, i see the 4 partitions as 4 distinct drives with their own directories. Makes it easier on my brain to segment things this way, and from a work perspective, we (in theory) are more protected by having multiple partitions.
ie the df -h command gives this (this is my linux box at work so no enclosure mounted unfortunately) - Quote:
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda5 479M 130M 325M 29% /
/dev/hda8 24G 11G 13G 46% /home
/dev/hda6 5.8G 2.3G 3.3G 42% /usr
/dev/hda7 5.8G 301M 5.2G 6% /var
- basically that's a 40GB hard drive carved up into 4 partitions and a swap partition. Day to day i just see them as /home, /usr etc etc.
edit- here's how my laptop looks in Linux (20GB), with windows partition (ie C:\ drive, 40GB) accessible, also my USB2.0 enclosure is mounted, see the last 4 mounts -
output from 'df -h' - Quote:
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda5 788M 283M 465M 38% /
/dev/hda9 5.3G 4.4G 901M 84% /home
/dev/hda2 40G 28G 12G 70% /mnt/windows
/dev/hda7 4.9G 3.2G 1.5G 70% /usr
/dev/hda8 4.9G 2.4G 2.3G 52% /var
/dev/sda5 30G 30G 21M 100% /mnt/MUSIC-VIDS
/dev/sda6 30G 14G 16G 47% /mnt/CREAKYMIXES
/dev/sda7 30G 25G 4.7G 84% /mnt/MP3_S
/dev/sda8 24G 228M 24G 1% /mnt/NEW_VOLUME
Anyways i don't mean to waffle on about Linux too much, stuff like this may help someone else along the way is all :)
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27. September 2006 @ 03:05 |
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I saw all that in Linux, but couldn't get access to the Windows partition of my hard disk. I didn't use it for very long, apparently I didn't pick a very up to date or easy to use version.
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27. September 2006 @ 03:14 |
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well if you use Linux again you'd just see "C:\" for instance as /mnt/windows in Linux, ie Program Files would be accessed via '/mnt/windows/Program Files'
as to marsey99's question re heatsink for a socket 754, i honestly can't remember what make my heatsink/fan is; i (stupidly at the time) bought an OEM cpu ie without the stock heatsink fan, and ended up with one that wasn't as good as the stock fan (couldn't use anything clever like a Zalmann or whatever, the pc's case is tiny so no clearance for anything fancy). I get decent enough airflow/cooling in the case with my cheapy heatsink/fan, it's only a problem encoding movies in the height of summer, when the temperature gets a tad high in the case
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27. September 2006 @ 03:14 |
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creaky,you lost me right at the point you said "multiple"!!!ROFL........
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27. September 2006 @ 03:30 |
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LOL actually having seen Linux I do know roughly what he's on about, but despite the unfamiliar directory name or whatever, there was no presence of my windows partition, I looked long and hard for it.
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dreamer2
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27. September 2006 @ 05:23 |
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i want to make abest custom built pc with all the new models of mobo , cpu and other stuff. can u tell me all those so i can build my pc
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27. September 2006 @ 05:28 |
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Absolutely everything cutting edge?
Core 2 Duo E6600 or higher
Asus P5WDH Deluxe
2x1GB Corsair XMS2 series RAM
ATi Radeon X1950XT-X Graphics
Western Digital Raptor & Western Digital Caviar SE16 Hard disks
Hiper Type-R 730W PSU
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27. September 2006 @ 07:38 |
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got the akasa evo 33 for £20 it is supposed to go 18c under stock but i dont know if thats with 1 or 2 fans mounted but they are only £3ish if i want to get another.
marseys dumb ass question of the day
ive just bought a new psu with a 120mm fan,(jeantech jn120f-450-ap) because it ticked all the boxes for my needs,(and cost £20) now which side will it go top or bottom? the stickers are orientated so it would be the bottom, the image in the manual it looks like it is the top but it doesnt say. any one any ideas or should i take the suck it and see route?
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27. September 2006 @ 07:54 |
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Rubbish, no standard cooler can manage lower than room temperature without some seriously meaty additional cooling system, looking to Water cooling (even that's unlikely), or more likely Vapour compression or N2(l). Think about the PSU logically, marsey99, if the fan is at the top, how is the air going to get out? Assuming you don't have a hole for the fan to go, common sense would dictate the fan being on the bottom, unless you use a case in which the PSU sits at the bottom.
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27. September 2006 @ 08:12 |
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thanks for getting back so quick sam, mines at the top but thats what i mean some go in the top some the bottom some sideways, i will just stick it in soon and see which way it blows but if it is the top i will need to get the jigsaw out and cut a hole.
http://www.custompc.co.uk/custompc/revie...quest-a630.html
its a typo should of said 17c
just checked the link and its broke, from that page click on labs, on the left, then its the 7th test down the list (athlon 64 hsf)
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27. September 2006 @ 09:20 |
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so all these are the best specification for a pc and how much will it cost all together and are they cheapest in neweegg and what about case which one is bestthanks
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27. September 2006 @ 10:53 |
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That's 17C below the normal HSF, not a temperature of 17C. There's a difference! That spec is all that's needed for a top end PC. If you want to go absolutely mega high end with money no object, you may want to look at an X6800 and a GeForce 7950GX2, but beware you're spending about an extra $900 for very little extra benefit.
All those components will be either cheapest or near cheapest at newegg, plus they're a reliable seller. As for case, I love the NZXT Lexa, but other users may make other recommendations, see my posts in the "Where are you sat?" Thread in the safety valve to get some idea...
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/20/208116
marsey99, you can put a PSU either way round, just make sure you put it the way round that the fan is on the bottom, you don't NEED to cut a hole in the top, just put the PSU the other way round.
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27. September 2006 @ 11:12 |
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so that pc goes to like 2000 dollars. what if i buy that motherboard and processor and buy 7600gt. i cant find link for psu that u gave. the price can be around 7 or 800 . if u tell me some other things by which i can get price to 800 but i want to buy this mobo and processor
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dreamer2
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27. September 2006 @ 11:15 |
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man i like that case too much . its awesome thanks
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27. September 2006 @ 11:15 |
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sam you was right first time. psu fan sucking through the bottom and pushing it out the back.
thats what i ment by 17c under stock, under the stock hsf's temp not -17c.
had to take the whole bloomin mobo out to fit the backing plate, but its done now. going to see how it is now tonight then see how it ocs in the morning.
positive thoughts please people
thanks again sam
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27. September 2006 @ 11:23 |
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You're very welcome. Hiper PSUs being UK designed I'm not certain whether the 730W unit is available in the US yet, if that's the case, maybe an enermax galaxy, but if you're after $800 then you should have said. A 7600GT is a midrange card, far from top end, but if you want to use that, the normal Hiper Type-R 580W unit will be absolutely fine.
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27. September 2006 @ 17:18 |
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i will just pospone my computer for 2 month and will start it in january when i can get more money tomake high end pc and i shouldnt do any compromise
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27. September 2006 @ 21:17 |
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which is the best gfx card available geoforce 7900gt or atixt
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28. September 2006 @ 01:23 |
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The absolute best available? Well I'll try and put them in order of performance:
7950GX2
X1950XT-X
X1900XT-X
7900GTX, X1900XT (about even)
X1900GT
7900GT
In short, an X1900XT beats a 7900GT, but an X1950XT-X beats them both, and a 7950GX2 beats them all (but only just and not always, get the 1950 to be sure)
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28. September 2006 @ 09:45 |
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dreamer2, keep in mind that 7950 GX2 takes up 2 pci slots. i have the card and really like it keeps my frame rate up gaming
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28. September 2006 @ 11:14 |
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so one use pci 16 and other pci 1 slot . what about the best sound card and dvddrive available right now and what about the ethenet port. its my first time making my own pc. thanks
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28. September 2006 @ 18:09 |
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Following up on my last question about HDD; I found two drives from WD and am not sure of the differences. The Western Digital Caviar RE WD3200YS 320GB and the Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200KS 320GB are very similar drives, but the RE is said to be more durable. What are the differences and for constant use which would be better?
Thaks
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28. September 2006 @ 23:16 |
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Network ~ DD-WRT ~ 2node WDS-WPA2/AES ~ Buffalo WHR-G54S. 3node WPA2/AES ~ WRT54GS v6 (inc. WEP BSSID), WRT54G v2, WRT54G2 v1. *** Forum Rules ***
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