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28. September 2006 @ 23:18 |
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dreamer2, get a highend Audigy sound card
and for the drives the best out there are the Plextor PX-716SA Sata . i have the PX-716A but they don't make that drive anymore
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29. September 2006 @ 01:18 |
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With hard disks, the SE16 is a very fast drive, and I've not heard of any major reliability issues with it. It's also very quiet, which is a plus. As for the sound, my Audigy SE is pretty good for all of £17. It can do 7.1 24-bit EAX if it needs to, and it sure beats integrated sound...
With DVD drives I tend not to recommend Plextor since they're so much more expensive and yet I don't find them any better than the competition. The NEC ND-4570 I use has like 5/5 at newegg over something ridiculous like 700 reviews, and mine cost a teeny £24 versus £67 for Plextor drives. US prices are the same in that respect.
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30. September 2006 @ 09:55 |
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Being someone who has actually used both the NEC burners and a quality Plextor burner, I am probably better placed to make a recommendation than someone that hasn't used both.
The difference in the Plextor drives is apparent when using the correct tools that show the actual burn quality on the disks, rather than just using the naked eye.
There is no doubt that as a cheap burner, NECs are very good, they are reliable and use almost all media without a problem, and don?t cost much.
There is also no doubt that if you want the burns to be better quality, and have the life span and compatibility associated with that, then Plextor are a better bet.
As with everything, you get what you pay for.
But to get a good Plextor, pay the money, as the cheaper end Plextor units are just
re-badged units.
Sam ? Taking the feedback from buyers at places like newegg is hardly a scientific way of looking at whether a drive is any good.
It will show you the DOA stats and failure rate if you?re lucky, but as 98% of buyers are pretty clueless to anything technical, it?s not a very clever pointer to quality.
I would suggest interested parties look at sites like Club CD Freaks where the depth of knowledge on the quality of the various drives is more specific than somewhere like AD.
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30. September 2006 @ 09:59 |
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I too dislike using newegg as a quality rating, but 5/5 for 700 or so reviews is very rarely achieved. I also think Plextor drives are a bit better, but not three times the cost better. Apparently Benq burners have a very high burn quality, but having owned two benq burners in the past, I can honestly say their build quality appalled me. I hope they're better now.
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30. September 2006 @ 10:37 |
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BigDK , the Plextor valueline are rebadged benQs you want to get the Premium line thoses are true Plextor.
I have used Plextor drives for many years and think there will worth the money the PX-716As i have are no longer being made but you can still buy the PX-716SA sata drives. i to agree you get what you pay for
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1. October 2006 @ 03:34 |
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You're using the same Plextor as me, it's a quality piece of kit.
I'm not sure about bad build quality of some Plextors, as this is only the second one I've had, the first was a re-badged BenQ, so I swapped it as soon as I found out.
Running a PIE test I get a typical max of 12-13 PI Errors on a 4x burn to TY03 disks on the PX-716A.
Considering the standard is 280 it shows how good a burner it is.
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1. October 2006 @ 03:38 |
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They're not bad, they're just more expensive than I think they're worth.
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1. October 2006 @ 04:36 |
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You're entitled to your opinion, no one is trying to make you buy one, so you needn't worry too much about it, just stick with the NEC.
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1. October 2006 @ 12:30 |
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Off hand does any one know if BENQ make a sata drive... I could not find any where a 1655 in a sata hook up? Ran out of IDE spots but have plenty of Sata left. Thanks for your time!
Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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1. October 2006 @ 13:56 |
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1. October 2006 @ 14:08 |
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Cool...only one thing- dont uderstand the price? I live in the states [Tacoma, Washington]thanks for the info-
Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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1. October 2006 @ 14:18 |
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Interesting, that's a UK only model. Newegg and TigerDirect only offer Plextors.
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1. October 2006 @ 15:50 |
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man thats to bad! I need another drive, maybe two but they need to be sata- WELLLLLLLLL the hunt is on...I wanted it to be BENQ so far I am happy with the two I have just put in and the prices are very reasonable.
Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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1. October 2006 @ 23:59 |
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Well, as I say I can only find Plextors in the US atm, and I'm sorry I can't bring myself to recommend Benq stuff after the raw deal I had with them in the past. Whether or not they've changed is irrelevant really.
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2. October 2006 @ 10:46 |
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well I will look into the Plextors I've heard nothing but good about them... thanks for the effert!
Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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2. October 2006 @ 10:51 |
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Well, except for the price lol. I have heard of a couple of bad cases, but only from newegg reviews, so take that with half a dozen sachets of salt.
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2. October 2006 @ 10:53 |
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you bet... I was thinking about the PX 712S what do you think?
Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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2. October 2006 @ 11:03 |
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Well, proper priced Plextors like that one are genuine stuff, so I don't see any reason why not.
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3. October 2006 @ 11:05 |
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samsung do a sata dvd drive. the writemaster sh-w163 you can get them for about £30, they dont do dvd ram but the plextors dont either. you could get both for the price of one plextor px-755sa. it writes 1 layer +/-s faster but the plextor is faster @ ripping and burning dual layers.
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3. October 2006 @ 11:07 |
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Quote:
Interesting, that's a UK only model. Newegg and TigerDirect only offer Plextors.
Couldn't find one in the US.
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3. October 2006 @ 14:42 |
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Can't find that Samsung any where, to bad... would really like to check that one out!
Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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3. October 2006 @ 16:46 |
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3. October 2006 @ 23:11 |
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herrick , the PX-712A isnt being made anymore . if your going to get one go with the PX-716SA sata drive
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4. October 2006 @ 00:42 |
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Yeah that's the problem though marsey, we can find it in the UK but herrick is a US user, and I can't seem to find any trace of the Samsung drive over there. Do you get on with UKOnline alright? I use it too and have the exact same IP address.... somehow.
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4. October 2006 @ 10:38 |
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Anyone know of a good online guide to build a PC?...Especially one using an Antec P180B case.
Here are my specs.
Core 2 Duo E6600: CPU
Antec P180B: Case
Asus P5B Deluxe Wi/Fi: M/B
2 GB DDR2 667 MhZ SDRAM: Memory
WD 1500ADFD : Primary HD
Seagate 320GB: Secondary HD
ATI AIW X1900: Video Card
Corsair HX Series 520W: PSU
CL SoundBlaster Audigy 2: Soundcard
Lite On DVD-RW (2): Optical Drives
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