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Overclocking AMD Athlon XP 2000
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Kamran
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27. May 2004 @ 07:34 |
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Praetor left my computer on all niht doing nothing really and the temperature is around 40-45 and i think it will go up under stress. the temps i saw were when i switch my computer on after 12 hours completely off. so i guess what i gave before were completely wrong, plus the software is wrong
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Praetor
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27. May 2004 @ 09:25 |
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40-45 is a much more reasonable and expected temperature ... run something really intensive and i would not be surprised to see the chip hit the 60° mark so you might want to consider more (effective) cooling
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Kamran
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27. May 2004 @ 10:42 |
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Is it necessary? I only copy dvds download and play max payne 2 with the onboard graphics and thats it
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hydr0
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27. May 2004 @ 13:14 |
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I will soon be buying a 2500+ Barton.
Now preator...my friend has a 2500+ OC'ed to 3200+. Guess the 2500+ is the chip to overclock. I will also be going to 1024 pc 2700 when i get the CPU.
I'm having a new problem also:
When I play a game (any full screen game) the game will lock up, my monitor will shut off and say "No Signal" (as if it were unplugged from the card) and then I can hear the gameplay being.
Could this be bad heads on the card? Bad monitor cord?
It started doing this when i updated my drivers. I rolled back and it happened again. I have switched from 8x AGP to 4X and so far I haven't had a problem. Will give updates if this occurs...
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Praetor
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27. May 2004 @ 19:34 |
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Kamran: if thats all you are doing, is OCing your case really neccesary? (and 'sides would you want to risk it?)
hydr0 : the XP2800s are also a lovely bunch to OC and as for your monitor, check the actual pins on both the monitor and video card end of things -- i kept wondering why my screen was flickering green then i realized the pins were absolutely MASHED in
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hydr0
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27. May 2004 @ 22:42 |
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hahah, I'll check, thanks though...
AMD Athlon 2000+ OC'ed to 2200+
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hydr0
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27. May 2004 @ 22:46 |
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Well, actually, since I switched to AGP 4x...its been absolutly fine..played some halo for about an hour ( a couple times for an hour :) ) and some counter strike. Seems fine. I'm wondering why its locking up on 8xAGP setting...the whole monitor thing is odd....Happens again I'll post :) Thanks preator
AMD Athlon 2000+ OC'ed to 2200+
512 DDR PC2700
ATI Radeon 9500 PRO
80gig WD 7200 RPM 8 MB Cache
350W PS
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Moylan
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30. May 2004 @ 02:01 |
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Well I Know this wouldnt look to "cool" at a lanbash or anything but My way of keeping my cpu at a max loaded temp of 45 (XP2000 overclocked too 1905Mhz) I take the two side of my case off, and stick a big boxx fan right next too it, it never goes above 50 in summer, and in normal running temp, like while im writing this, it is at 21 degrees, the air is 14 degrees, but still it keeps it nice and cool.
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Praetor
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30. May 2004 @ 05:59 |
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Well I Know this wouldnt look to "cool" at a lanbash or anything but My way of keeping my cpu at a max loaded temp of 45 (XP2000 overclocked too 1905Mhz) I take the two side of my case off, and stick a big boxx fan right next too it, it never goes above 50 in summer, and in normal running temp, like while im writing this, it is at 21 degrees, the air is 14 degrees, but still it keeps it nice and cool.
LMAO I did that last summer!!!! I still couldnt keep the temp <50ºC tho (XP2100 under stress in 30°C+ weather) ... used a damn nice superfan too! One point tho: you wouldnt need to take off both sides of the case would you? ;-)
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Hifi311
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30. May 2004 @ 10:00 |
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Okay...I need some more input from you experts.
(my original post was on the 1st page of the thread)
I have my Athlon XP 2000+ at 1.82Ghz (basically 2200+ speed). FSB is 290Mhz and RAM speed is 290Mhz (Viking 512MB PC2700). The RAM of course will run faster ..but it's probably better to have the FSB running at the same speed.
Anyway my question is about voltages. How high should I bump up the CPU core since I've upped the FSB by 12Mhz? It's a Shuttle Nforce2 Ultra board.. so I tried 1.825..and it crashed during a virus scan (though temps were in the low 50s). I have it a 1.85 right now. Also bumped the AGP and RAM voltages up by .05 just in case..tho the agp bus isn't overclocked. Someone give me a method to my madness lol! THanks.
AthlonXP 2000+ @ 1.82gHz
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Hi-Val DVD
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Praetor
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30. May 2004 @ 16:09 |
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Dunno if there is a hard and fast technique for doing this aside from "trial and error" hehe :)
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Harryford
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30. May 2004 @ 16:27 |
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Ok this is one thing that i never did understand about people. Why do u spend 50.00 on OCing when you could just upgrade your cpu when u buy it for like 20.00 and you still get the warranty and your computer isnt about to fry. I OCed my 2100+ to 2200+ and the only thing i noticed was the temp went up hella... My advice dont do it if you dont know what your doing and if you are going to dont do it by just like 100mhz... its not worth it
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Praetor
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30. May 2004 @ 17:01 |
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Ok this is one thing that i never did understand about people. Why do u spend 50.00 on OCing when you could just upgrade your cpu when u buy it for like 20.00
Becase it doesnt just cost 20 dollars. Consider my syste, XP2500 -- if you think its a 20 dollar upgrade to get to XP3200 ur mistaken. It much more evident with say, the P4EE-3.2 (retail $999) to P4EE-3.4 (retail $1100) --- not a paltry $20 by any stretch of imagination.
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cozza1987
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30. May 2004 @ 21:01 |
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Generally if you are going to overclock your computer, you usually have good cooling and you know what you are doing, therefore you are less likely to fry it.
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Why do u spend 50.00 on OCing when you could just upgrade your cpu when u buy it for like 20.00 and you still get the warranty and your computer isnt about to fry
Where are you getting these $20.00 CPU's from, i think i might b interested in some :P
For $20.00 your prob looking at a 200MHz CPU... lol
If you are talking about when you buy a new PC you sometimes get an option to upgrade the CPU, well most Overclockers build their own PC their they dont have that option :P
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Praetor
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30. May 2004 @ 22:04 |
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My advice dont do it if you dont know what your doing and if you are going to dont do it by just like 100mhz... its not worth it
Very true on the first part -- as for the second part, it depends what you're OCing by 100Mhz :P
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player33
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30. May 2004 @ 22:24 |
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Hello guys im kinda new to the OC arena. I recenlty got an AMD Athlon XP 2000+ which i got from my friend. He doesnt know what core it had (palomino or thoroughbred) therefore i dont know much about it. I have been running it at 1992 MHz (166 x 12) and my RAM is a Hyundai 256 MB DDR 400 RAM running at stock (should be 200 MHz). My cooling is a Coolermaster HAC-V81 X Dream (bloody loud lol) and I have two 8 cm case fans (one in the front and another in the back). My current CPU temps (idle) are 34C (according to ASUSProbe2) and Motherboard temp is 19C (also according to ASUSProbe2). Being the greedy person I am, I tried to overclock it to higher speeds by increasing the clock speeds while keeping the multiplier the same. But as i increase the clock speeds to 200 MHz, the PC fails to POST. So is there any way to overcome this problem? I am thinking about increasing the voltages but havent touched them yet as i heard they can cause irreversible damage if not done properly. Im pretty sure my HSF and case fans should accomodate the extra heat as they seem to be quite low at the moment (even when under load). Anyways, sorry for the long post and thank you in advance.
My specs are:
AMD Athlon XP 2000+ with unknown core (166 x 12)
ASUS A7N-8X-X Motherboard (all changes done in BIOS)
Hyundai 256 MB DDR 400 RAM
Generic 300 Watt PSU
MSI GeForce FX 5200 with passive cooling
Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 Sound Card
Quantum Fireball 20 GB HDD at ATA 100
Sony CRX 145E 8x4x32 CD-RW Drive
Lite On 52327S 52x32x52 CD-RW Drive (under repairs)
Generic Case with Coolermaster 80 MM fan at the back and generic fan at the front.
Thanks again :D
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Praetor
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31. May 2004 @ 05:42 |
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AMD Athlon XP 2000+ with unknown core (166 x 12)
Seems like the Thoroughbred although you can grab a program from http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpu-z-122.zip which will let you know in a jiffy (first tab, look at the box labeled 'Core').
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I am thinking about increasing the voltages but havent touched them yet as I heard they can cause irreversible damage if not done properly.
That they can -- the golden rule about voltages (and OCing in general) is to avoid making massive jumps. Adjust by the smallest possible number and run a quick benchmark or two until you "start getting jittery" -- when you get to this stage you need to slow down and run the machine for a week or so to see if its still stable :)
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player33
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31. May 2004 @ 07:01 |
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Yep it showed up as a Thoroughbred. So are there any ways of overcoming my problem without changing the voltages? I tried to increase the clock speed to 200 again with vcore up to 1.7 but it didnt work. I tried lowering the clock to 180 but it still didnt work as my memory was clocked then multiplied by 120% and therefore running at like 216 MHz, where the computer would beep during POST. So i think by generic RAM is restricting any more overclocking. Can someone confirm this? Another thought was that i unlock the multipliers and give a shot at churning the multipliers up to something like 14. Oh and what is the maximum vcore setting you think i should apply? Thanks again
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Praetor
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31. May 2004 @ 07:06 |
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Can you give us the full DEFAULT values for the following:
- CPU Clockspeed & Multiplier (Im assuming, from memory, 1667Mhz at 11.0x?)
- Memory Speed and timings if possible
- What voltages are being fed to the CPU and memory?
- The memory clock ratio (5:4, 4:3, 1:1, etc)
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Kamran
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31. May 2004 @ 07:56 |
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Praetor how can i find out my memory clock ratio? I have a 256MB DDR-SDRAM PC3200
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Praetor
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31. May 2004 @ 08:02 |
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I have a 256MB DDR-SDRAM PC3200
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Memory: 2 x 184pins DDR333 slots (up to 2GB)
Well unless you OCd your memory too, you are running them as PC2700 not PC3200. And for the ratio stuff, it will be on the same tab as where you would go to do the clock and multiplier adjustments
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Kamran
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31. May 2004 @ 08:10 |
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Praetor thanks for that, hwo can i run them as 3200? will i see a performance increase?
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Praetor
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31. May 2004 @ 08:13 |
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From XP2500 to XP3200 you'll prolly notice a performance improvement... to be honest I dont know because I never ran this chip at XP2500, I OC'd it on the first powerup :P
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Kamran
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31. May 2004 @ 09:09 |
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No I ment my Memory from 2700 to 32000 will i notice a difference in performance? How can i go about ding this? Is it just changing some settings?
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Praetor
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31. May 2004 @ 09:33 |
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1. Depends on the stuff you do and how long you have been runnning it at PC2700. You have to try it to know
2. Yes its just a setting
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