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Overclocking AMD Athlon XP 2000
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Harryford
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15. June 2004 @ 20:09 |
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no they use entirely differemt manufacturing processes.
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Praetor
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16. June 2004 @ 06:13 |
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Oh right, my bad i do recall hearing that at some point .... silly me :P
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MannyF38
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16. June 2004 @ 10:41 |
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how much voltage should i increase? when i increase the frequency to 150 its at 140 now and i havent touch the voltages xp2000 running at 1.75 trying to go to xp2200 once i move up the frequency to 150....
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Sting9
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20. June 2004 @ 04:27 |
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I have oc'ed my MSI nForce2 mobo and 1800+ to FSB150 (default 133).
What my question is why does this decrease my 3D card score? I've tried increasing my AGP bus spead, but that makes it worse (even when my fsb is 133).
I've used radlinker to oc my ATI card, which does help but my benchmark score is still not as high as when my fsb is 133.
How can I oc my CPU (and memory) without affecting my 3d card?
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Praetor
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20. June 2004 @ 07:36 |
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MannyF38
The key concept of OCing is that nobody can really tell you. You'vew got to play around and push the chip slowly. If it starts to get unstable, try knocking the voltages up in micro-increments at a time. There's no hard-and-fast formula for OCing -- thats what makes it fun.
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What my question is why does this decrease my 3D card score? I've tried increasing my AGP bus spead, but that makes it worse (even when my fsb is 133).
Possibly because of some automated downclocking technologies in the video card (I.e., the card gets too hot, it downclocks?).
Furthermore, benchmarks are seriously overrated and often dont give an accurate description of the gaming experience (this only applies to synthetic and semi-synthetic benchmarks like SiSoft and 3DMark). Try some of the in-game benchmarks most FPSs come with and that will give a more accurate (not just that, a more useful test of your system)
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MannyF38
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24. June 2004 @ 07:48 |
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i jsut got a volcano 11+ wating for my (333)ram i have 2000xp running at 1.75ghz i increased the frequency up a litle to 140 but havent goten to 150 because i need the (333)ram... anyone seen xp2000 rnning at 2.0ghz ?
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Kamran
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24. June 2004 @ 09:02 |
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Yeah I Have mine running at 2100 mhz
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Praetor
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24. June 2004 @ 10:01 |
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anyone seen xp2000 rnning at 2.0ghz ?
I have seen 1.9Ghz but certainly not 2.0Ghz -- and that 1.Ghz tower had some very ncie cooling in it
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Yeah I Have mine running at 2100 mhz
Are you sure? We've had this discussion before I think.... the XP2000 which you originally started this thread out with doesnt OC very well whether it be a TB or a Palo. Their effectiver OC ceiling is 1.80Ghz which translates loosely to XP2200+. Your 2.1Ghz is more like a XP3100+.
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Kamran
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24. June 2004 @ 13:45 |
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ok my mistake... it was 2600+ which translates to what? i dont have it anymore because as you said there was no need for me to do it since i only download and burn
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Praetor
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24. June 2004 @ 13:52 |
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XP2600 ius 2.133Ghz but didnt you have an XP2000? Or are we talking about a different machine? :)
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Kamran
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24. June 2004 @ 13:53 |
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I had it oc to that
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Praetor
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24. June 2004 @ 13:54 |
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Hot damn! Very nice :)
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Kamran
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24. June 2004 @ 13:58 |
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It was getting a bit unstable so i decided that there really was no point.
Ok now my question my friend has a xp2200+ and his computer randomly switches of i know its getting to hot and thats the reason its switching off. i was wondering if i underclock it will it be cooler?
he oonly uses word and thats it. he aint willing to spend no money, will it reduce the temp alot
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Praetor
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24. June 2004 @ 14:39 |
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Yes it will :)
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MannyF38
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25. June 2004 @ 03:37 |
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the reason why it gets unstable is because its running to hot ? or just because your pushing the proccesor way to far? whats the stable temp for overclock proc my running at 1.75 running at 40c - 41c.
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Kamran
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25. June 2004 @ 07:37 |
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no his hasnt been oc at all
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Praetor
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25. June 2004 @ 10:46 |
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I suspect the PSU isnt delivering as clean power as it should, have a lookover of the voltages :)
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Kamran
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25. June 2004 @ 10:47 |
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ok
i will do
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lilsmitty
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1. July 2004 @ 08:43 |
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I have just ordered a Athlon XP 2200+ with a t-bred core. Think any oc'ing is possible with an old stick of pc-133 ram? if not, can you help me overclock the ram enough to make a difference? I have no way to get some faster stuff. Absolutely no xtra cash. I have a SOYO K7VME mobo, and their case with plenty of cooling. My hsf is a thermaltake volcano 8. pure copper. help me plz!!
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lilsmitty
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1. July 2004 @ 08:47 |
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On this whole thing, (overclocking in general) i reccomend not pushing the voltage more than .5 or 1. the multiplier is what i have found to be the best. Sometimes, the FSB has just pushed my system too far, even only raising it by 10 or 15 Mhz. liquid cooling is a must for massive overclockin. I have a 2000+ plus overclocked to 2025 mhz with liquid cooling, but could only get about 1.75 with a regular fan. sorry bout the long post.
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Praetor
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1. July 2004 @ 09:21 |
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Think any oc'ing is possible with an old stick of pc-133 ram?
If you're runing a mobo that supports the PC133 spec still then I wouldnt imagine there would be a lot of headroom for OCing.
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if not, can you help me overclock the ram enough to make a difference? I have no way to get some faster stuff. Absolutely no xtra cash
Most I've seen PC133 OC to without funky cooling is roughly PC152, which, uisng the DDR notation, would be PC1200 (up from roughly PC1066). Not that big an improvement but if anything is what you're looking for, that's it :)
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My hsf is a thermaltake volcano 8. pure copper. help me plz!!
Pretty sure that's a type, do you have the Volcano7+ or the Volcano9+?
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. sorry bout the long post.
LOL you havnt seen long yet! :P
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badmojox
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2. July 2004 @ 10:31 |
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First, I would like to thank all of the people who have contributed to this thread (specially Praetor and hydro)since I had very similar questions of my own.
I have an XP 2000 Palemino with an ECS K7S5A 1.0 board and PC2100 512mb RAM. My video card is a 9800XT.
Yes I know I have a ridiculous card with a crappy platform. I noticed that hydro has a nice stable OC at XP 2200 with a FSB increase to 145 correct? That is what I am looking for as well. Unfortunately, I have heard mixed opinions on how my board rates in terms of Overclocking. First of all, I know that when I go to BIOS, 133 is the highest I can set the FSB to. So I researched a little bit and found out a program called SpeedFan which allows you to change the FSB in windows. Now I have a few questions:
Is my RAM compatible with an OC to XP 2200? I am not sure what kind of problems OCing runs into with memeory.
Is there any other way of changing the FSB or do I have to flash my BIOS to a custom OC Bios? I would much rather use SpeedFan although I don't think it allows small increment changes and I am not sure if 145 is an available setting.
Also in SpeedFan, it shows a couple different temperature readouts but it doesn't label where it is reading them. The one that I think is important and looks suspiciously like the CPU temp reads around 57C. Yikes. Is that normal for stock HSF setup? I am guessing that before even thinking about an OC, even one as small as 2000 to 2200, I need better cooling.
Any thoughts and input would be appreciated. Thank you!
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Praetor
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2. July 2004 @ 20:00 |
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I know that when I go to BIOS, 133 is the highest I can set the FSB to. So I researched a little bit and found out a program called SpeedFan which allows you to change the FSB in windows.
I would not reccommend trying to OC with your mobo ... I've had a lot of people come ask me to fix their OC'd K7S5A boards
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Is my RAM compatible with an OC to XP 2200?
Depends on how you OC it (FSB or Multiplier) .... again I woudlnt reccommend it with that mobo.
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or do I have to flash my BIOS to a custom OC Bios?
I could be wrong but ive never ever heard of anything like that before
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the CPU temp reads around 57C. Yikes. Is that normal for stock HSF setup?
Thats fine (actually pretty good for a stock Palomino under stress)
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before even thinking about an OC, even one as small as 2000 to 2200, I need better cooling.
Probably ... visit http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/81431 for ideas
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lilsmitty
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6. July 2004 @ 18:49 |
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Its smith again. ok. my mobo is BRAND NEW. I didnt realize that the pc-133 wuz a different size. i got it from a buddy when he got a new pc, so that isnt gonna work. i ordered a 512MB stick of PC2700.so once again, heres my specs. i need to know how much you recommend i oc.
Soyo K7VME mobo
512 MB pc2700 ram
athlon xp 2200+ t-bred processor.\
40gig 7200 rpm hdd (if this even matters)
thermaltake slim volcano 8 (no this wuznt a typo) its pure copper if this helps.
k. PLZ reply as soon as possible. my final parts should get here tomorrow,(JULY 1) so i want to know.
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Praetor
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6. July 2004 @ 20:06 |
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thermaltake slim volcano 8 (no this wuznt a typo) its pure copper if this helps.
Is this the HSF? http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/volcano/si/a1492.htm -- if so its not all copper (hence it doesnt have a "+" in its designation) ... a decent cooler but you'll probably want to
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my final parts should get here tomorrow,(JULY 1) so I want to know.
HUH?
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i need to know how much you recommend I oc.
I couldnt reccomend you anything other than trial and error. Take it slow and test thoroughly at each stage.... there's no hard and fast technique
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