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jimduggan
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10. June 2004 @ 19:15 |
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when i run nero (6.3.1.15) and try to write an iso onto a blank dvd, the "used read buffer" goes to 100% perfectly fine. however, the "buffer level" down next to my burner's name (PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-104) stays at 0%. after a minute and a half, nero fails attempting to write a lead-in. no coasters, as it doesn't write anything at all. after searching around on the net i have changed my burner back and forth between udma-2 and pio-4, settling now on pio-4 but still no luck.
decrypter 3.2.2.0 and alcohol120 1.4.7.1005 have the same problem--no "device buffer" and fail on lead-in. I even reinstalled windows without windows update, without my via 4-in-1 drivers, and without forceaspi 1.7. all to no avail. here's all the different errors
dvd decrypter has given me:
no more track reservations allowed
L-EC Uncorrectable Error
invalid address for write
no additional sense information
today i just got done burning a couple iso's using my burner and the same nero in a friend's computer just fine. does anyone know why my drive seems to have no buffer on my computer? or what else could be wrong?
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11. June 2004 @ 10:57 |
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Well if the burner is working correctly in another computer, then its got to be upstream from there. I take it that the burner and media can be seen by Nero as the target.
I'm not sure why you are trying to write an iso...Nero Burning ROM should be set to DVD-Video.
Can you post a Nero burn log?
A few more things to check:
Check your IDE cable connections. Check your power supply. Try swapping the burner with the ROM if you have one installed. Make sure your jumper is in the correct position relative to the burner position on the IDE buss. (End connection=master, middle connection= slave)
Try deleting your secondary IDE channel and then rebooting so Windows can reinstall it. It should reinstall with DMA enabled.
Try your friends burner in your computer and see if it works.
Try running Nero's clean tools:
http://www.nero.com/en/631938356417810.html
Sorry for the random ideas, maybe one of them will help.
I would like to see a burn log, if you can just copy and paste it into a reply, I might be able to figure out whats going on. If you do, be sure to remove your Nero registration number before posting.
Cheers,
Frank
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jimduggan
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11. June 2004 @ 14:33 |
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thanks for the suggestions.
my master/slave setup is correct: dvd-rw is master on far end, jumpered for master; cd-rw is slave on middle; pin 1 on each is lined up correctly because of notched ports. today i cleaned my computer, putting all cables back in as firmly as possible. still no luck. i also tried removing the cd-rw's power and ide plug, leaving the dvd-rw as master cause there's no "single drive" setting. also i removed secondary ide from device manager and let windows reinstall it.
my power supply is a lowly 250 but i don't have anything special...i guess? one hard drive, 2 burners. PCI: sound, tv tuner, lan card, agp geforce 4. 2 extra 80mm fans. cpu is athlon xp 2000+, ram 512 pc2700.
nero driver-cleantool didn't find anything, and the registrychecker.exe doesn't do anything visibly in dos windows or command prompt, so i'm assuming it did what it had to.
my friend's cd burner (lite-on 52x) does the same thing my lite-on 48x cdrw and pioneer dvr-104 dvdrw do: read to image but not write.
i forgot to mention that i'm only using Nero now because it has actually for some reason burned a couple successfully. i use isos because i normally use decrypter. its success was random, without me doing anything but restarting (truthfully... i've been randomly trying Nero and decrypter w/o changing stuff. my last success was right after i reinstalled windows + Nero + decrypter only. it never worked again).
i don't think this randomness means its a media problem though, because the exact same dvdr that Nero left blank on my computer burned perfectly with my burner in a friend's.
and, oh yeah, my computer did at one point work perfectly fine. about 3 months ago. don't know when it got screwed up, cause i only burn about twice a month or less. and i ignored it and gave it up about a month ago. all i remember changing critically in that time was updating windows xp and my via 4in1 drivers. but it only worked once after a clean windows installation? i switched primary and secondary ides' cables and my ata 100 hdd still worked, so i don't think it's a failing mobo either.
i'll post my Nero log below, hope it clears some stuff up, thanks again, don't want to get a new mobo
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jimduggan
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11. June 2004 @ 14:33 |
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Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.60 (1021), size=45056 bytes, created 9/10/1999 12:06:00 PM
ahead WinASPI: File 'D:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 12/16/2003 8:18:06 PM
Nero version: 6.3.1.15
Recorder: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-104> Version: 1.31 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.1.15
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2000kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-104 >Version: 1.31 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.1.15
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD1800BB-00DAA0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-104 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : LITE-ON LTR-48246S atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-104 G: CDRom0
LITE-ON LTR-48246S H: CDRom1
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AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (83886080) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 511MB (523828kB)
Free physical memory: 368MB (377300kB)
Memory in use : 27 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
11.6.2004
===== Disc-Copy over image - 1st step : Copy to image ...
2:31:42 PM #1 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running
2:31:42 PM #2 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124
Writer Image Recorder running
2:31:42 PM #3 Text 0 File DVDCopy.cpp, Line 271
DVD Track-Information from source disc
S01 T01 Con 0x14 Start 0 Len 1934944 (gap 0) Blank 0 Res 0 Dmg 0 Mode TRM_DATA_MODE1 (0)
2:31:42 PM #4 Text 0 File DVDCopy.cpp, Line 374
Max -1 tracks of 1 allowed to copy
1: 0 - 1934944 = 1934944, TRM_DATA_MODE1, block size 2048, read opt 0 (no read options)
2:31:42 PM #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3167
Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media
2:31:42 PM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 245
Last possible write address on media: 2147483646 (477218:35.21, 4194303MB)
Last address to be written: 1934943 (429:59.18, 3779MB)
2:31:42 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 257
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD DVD)
2:31:42 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2137
Recorder: Image Recorder;
CD type reading failed
ATIP Data: ?
2:31:42 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 418
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================
2:31:42 PM #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 813
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (1 - Data (mode 1))
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 1934944 (1934944) = #1934944/429:59.19
not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1934944 blocks [ Image Recorder ]
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2:31:42 PM #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 983
Prepare recorder [ Image Recorder ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
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MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x40; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 307200 3963072512, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
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__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
-150 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
-150 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
1934944 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
2:31:42 PM #12 Phase 120 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
Creating the image for burning
2:31:42 PM #13 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2343
Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
2:42:45 PM #14 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 115
< Image Recorder > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 1934944 (1D8660h), lenght 0 blocks
2:42:46 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
all writers idle, stopping conversion
2:42:46 PM #16 Phase 121 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
Creating Image completed successfully
===== Disc-Copy over image - 2nd step : Burn the image ...
2:42:55 PM #1 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running
2:42:55 PM #2 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124
Writer PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-104 running
2:42:55 PM #3 IMAGEGEN -10 File ImageGen.cpp, Line 366
Image was written as DAO.
DAOI:
MediaCatalogNumber = '
TocType = 0x40
Finalized = 1
First/Last Track = 1 / 1
1: ISRC = '
Blocksize = 2048
TrackMode = 'TRM_DATA_MODE1'
TrackConfig = 0x00
First/Last Index = 0 / 1
Index0FilePos = 0, Index1FilePos = 307200, NextTrackFilePos = -331894784
CUES:
0: Ctrl=0x41 Trk= 0 (0x00) Index=00 RecDep=0x00 Start=954437:08.46 ( -150)
1: Ctrl=0x41 Trk= 1 (0x01) Index=00 RecDep=0x00 Start=954437:08.46 ( -150)
2: Ctrl=0x41 Trk= 1 (0x01) Index=01 RecDep=0x00 Start=00:00.00 ( 0)
3: Ctrl=0x41 Trk=110 (0xAA) Index=01 RecDep=0x00 Start=429:59.19 ( 1934944)
MTYP: Mediumtype = DVD (old format) (0x1C)
Image file name: <F:\TempImage.nrg>
2:42:56 PM #4 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3167
Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media
2:43:36 PM #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 245
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 1934943 (429:59.18, 3779MB)
2:43:36 PM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 257
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD DVD)
2:43:36 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2137
Recorder: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-104, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: PRINCO -
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193
2:43:36 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 418
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
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Insert empty disc to write to.
(Medium in drive: Unknown. Medium required by compilation: DVD-R/RW.)
2:43:36 PM #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 813
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (1 - DVD-ROM)
2 indices, index0 (150) provided
original disc pos #0 + 1934944 (1934944) = #1934944/429:59.19
not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1934944 blocks [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-104 ]
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2:43:36 PM #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 983
Prepare recorder [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-104 ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
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MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x40; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 3962765312, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
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__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
1934944 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
2:43:36 PM #11 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
Burn process started at 1x (1,385 KB/s)
2:43:36 PM #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2343
Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
2:43:37 PM #13 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1703
Set remaining time: 47:58,992 (2878992ms) -> OK
2:43:37 PM #14 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1840
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode for Multisession
2:43:37 PM #15 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 20239
Set BUFE: supported -> ON
2:43:37 PM #16 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1981
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
2:43:37 PM #17 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8120
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: 10.08 Mbps (2 h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
2:43:39 PM #18 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1294
14:43:39.155 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-104\H1 T0 : Queue again later
2:44:12 PM #19 SCSI -1128 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1442
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x03960000
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x11
Sense Qual: 0x05
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x71 0x00 0x03 0xFF 0xFF 0x03 0xE0 0x0E
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x11 0x05
2:44:12 PM #20 CDR -1128 File Writer.cpp, Line 304
Unrecoverable read error
2:44:12 PM #21 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
all writers idle, stopping conversion
2:44:12 PM #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 223
conversion idle, stopping reader
2:44:13 PM #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2215
EndDAO: Last written address was 767
2:44:13 PM #24 Phase 133 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
Writing short lead-out
2:44:41 PM #25 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1703
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK
2:44:41 PM #26 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1703
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK
2:44:41 PM #27 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
Burn process failed at 1x (1,385 KB/s)
Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.60 (1021), size=25244 bytes, created 9/10/1999 12:06:00 PM
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920), size=86912 bytes, created 8/29/2002 1:27:50 AM (Adapter driver for rec)
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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11. June 2004 @ 14:42 |
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forgot to mention my blanks are newly bought "princos" which i've read are sub-par (hard times, eh?), but worked in the other computer i tested my burner in 3 out of 3 times, and also worked on my computer in times of yore...
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Princo....hehe
Try updating your Winaspi to Ver=4.71, might as well start someplace.
http://adaptec-tic.adaptec.com/cgi-bin/adaptec_tic.cfg/php/enduser/popup_adp.php?p_sid=mQoraVbh&p_lva=9073&p_li=&p_faqid=6608&p_created=1049068800
That registry checker just blinks when you click on it. If there are no probs with the registry thats all it does.
A couple of more things to try:
Do you have a program that will clean and correct your registry? I have a couple that seem to help. This one is pretty good:
http://www.winguides.com/regmech/
I would like you to try a burn using Shrink and Nero Burning ROM or use Decrypter in file mode and use Recode 2. I am just curious to see this done in a different mode.
I think we should work this as a software problem before trying to figure out if there is a hardware issue.
Other than the Aspi, everything looks normal, I've got one of my burn logs to compare yours to. They look about the same except at the end!
Try that Aspi and run that registry mechanic and we will go from there.
Cheers,
Frank
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i updated aspi so now i have wnaspi32.dll and aspi32.sys at version 4.711(0), while winaspi.dll and wowpost.exe are still 4.60(1021). i ran registry mechanic, it found a lot of stuff, so i decided to run adaware and spybot too just in case. then ripped a dvd9 disc with Decrypter in file mode successfully, then dvd5'ed w/ recode 2. then tried to burn w/ recode 2...didn't work...it failed on lead in but sealed (or tried to i guess?) the burn. so decrypter is telling me its a complete disc with 1 session but it's so small you can't even see it physically. here's my read and write logs. don't know if the read log would help but i'll post it anyway...
READ:
********** Nero Recode 2 **********
Version: 2.0.0.18
Project type: Remake a DVD
Target size: DVD5 (2282925)
Burn settings:
Target: Hard disk folder
Number of copies: 1
Target folder: D:\nero recode (16846696448 bytes free)
Shutdown when finished: false
Advanced Analysis: false
10:56:38 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 235
Compile DVD: init
VTS_01 Title Vobs [10583 vobus] 3605.67MB -> 2186.90MB [R 0.20]
Video: 2034.43MB, extra: 152.48MB
Audio: 1 streams
0. Dolby Digital 2-ch Unspecified 125.71MB [enabled]
Subpicture: 3 streams
0. English 6.10MB [enabled]
1. French 4.53MB [disabled]
2. Spanish 4.91MB [disabled]
VTS_02 Title Vobs [10598 vobus] 3544.91MB -> 2160.85MB [R 0.20]
Video: 2008.10MB, extra: 152.75MB
Audio: 1 streams
0. Dolby Digital 2-ch English 124.86MB [enabled]
Subpicture: 3 streams
0. English 7.20MB [enabled]
1. French 6.13MB [disabled]
2. Spanish 6.41MB [disabled]
VTS_03 Title Vobs [40 vobus] 19.45MB -> 17.76MB [R 0.86]
Video: 17.21MB, extra: 0.55MB
Audio: 1 streams
0. Dolby Digital 2-ch English 0.47MB [enabled]
Subpicture: 0 streams
VTS_04 Title Vobs [265 vobus] 97.05MB -> 90.11MB [R 0.86]
Video: 86.39MB, extra: 3.73MB
Audio: 1 streams
0. Dolby Digital 2-ch English 3.21MB [enabled]
Subpicture: 0 streams
VTS_05 Title Vobs [12 vobus] 3.14MB -> 2.90MB [R 0.86]
Video: 2.84MB, extra: 0.06MB
Audio: 1 streams
0. Dolby Digital 2-ch English 0.03MB [enabled]
Subpicture: 3 streams
0. English 0.00MB [enabled]
1. English 0.00MB [enabled]
2. English 0.00MB [enabled]
10:56:38 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1146
Compile DVD: begin copy 1
10:56:38 File NeroRecorder.cpp, Line 508
Writing to harddrive folder started
10:56:38 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 452
Compile DVD: burning 2282925 sectors (2282925 required)
10:56:38 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 522
Compiling DVD Volume started
11:16:23 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1061
Compile DVD: finished VTS_01 Title Vobs
VTS_01 Title Vobs:
Original 3605.67MB -> Expected 2186.90MB -> Output 2186.89MB
Finished error -0.01MB
Ratio encoded = 10580
Original encoded = 3
Slide encoded = 0
StillImage encoded = 0
Output extra size = 149.25MB
Source video size = 3447.25MB
Pictures Modified [I 10581] [P 27056] [B 84668]
11:41:47 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1061
Compile DVD: finished VTS_02 Title Vobs
VTS_02 Title Vobs:
Original 3544.91MB -> Expected 2160.85MB -> Output 2160.84MB
Finished error -0.02MB
Ratio encoded = 10594
Original encoded = 4
Slide encoded = 0
StillImage encoded = 0
Output extra size = 149.41MB
Source video size = 3386.33MB
Pictures Modified [I 10486] [P 27187] [B 84787]
11:41:53 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1061
Compile DVD: finished VTS_03 Title Vobs
VTS_03 Title Vobs:
Original 19.45MB -> Expected 17.76MB -> Output 17.78MB
Finished error -0.00MB
Ratio encoded = 40
Original encoded = 0
Slide encoded = 0
StillImage encoded = 0
Output extra size = 0.54MB
Source video size = 18.91MB
Pictures Modified [I 3] [P 9] [B 377]
11:42:11 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1061
Compile DVD: finished VTS_04 Title Vobs
VTS_04 Title Vobs:
Original 97.05MB -> Expected 90.11MB -> Output 90.11MB
Finished error -0.00MB
Ratio encoded = 265
Original encoded = 0
Slide encoded = 0
StillImage encoded = 0
Output extra size = 4.07MB
Source video size = 92.98MB
Pictures Modified [I 23] [P 0] [B 1917]
11:42:14 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1061
Compile DVD: finished VTS_05 Title Vobs
VTS_05 Title Vobs:
Original 3.14MB -> Expected 2.90MB -> Output 2.90MB
Finished error -0.00MB
Ratio encoded = 11
Original encoded = 1
Slide encoded = 0
StillImage encoded = 0
Output extra size = 0.05MB
Source video size = 3.09MB
Pictures Modified [I 0] [P 0] [B 83]
11:42:14 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 545
Compile DVD: completed successfuly (4458.84MB)
11:42:14 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 304
Compile DVD: exit
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WRITE:
********** Nero Recode 2 **********
Version: 2.0.0.18
Project type: Copy entire DVD
Target size: DVD5 (2282925)
Burn settings:
Target: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-104
Number of copies: 1
Write speed: 1385 KB/s
Temp folder: D:\nero recode (24483508224 bytes free)
Direct burning: false
Target media: DVD
Shutdown when finished: false
Advanced Analysis: false
12:30:11 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 235
Compile DVD: init
VTS_01 Title Vobs [10583 vobus] 2186.89MB -> 2186.89MB [R 1.00]
Video: 2034.41MB, extra: 152.48MB
Audio: 1 streams
0. Dolby Digital 2-ch Unspecified 125.71MB [enabled]
Subpicture: 1 streams
0. English 6.10MB [enabled]
VTS_02 Title Vobs [10598 vobus] 2160.84MB -> 2160.84MB [R 1.00]
Video: 2008.09MB, extra: 152.75MB
Audio: 1 streams
0. Dolby Digital 2-ch English 124.86MB [enabled]
Subpicture: 1 streams
0. English 7.20MB [enabled]
VTS_03 Title Vobs [40 vobus] 17.78MB -> 17.78MB [R 1.00]
Video: 17.23MB, extra: 0.55MB
Audio: 1 streams
0. Dolby Digital 2-ch English 0.47MB [enabled]
Subpicture: 0 streams
VTS_04 Title Vobs [265 vobus] 90.11MB -> 90.11MB [R 1.00]
Video: 86.39MB, extra: 3.73MB
Audio: 1 streams
0. Dolby Digital 2-ch English 3.21MB [enabled]
Subpicture: 0 streams
VTS_05 Title Vobs [12 vobus] 2.90MB -> 2.90MB [R 1.00]
Video: 2.84MB, extra: 0.06MB
Audio: 1 streams
0. Dolby Digital 2-ch English 0.03MB [enabled]
Subpicture: 3 streams
0. English 0.00MB [enabled]
1. English 0.00MB [enabled]
2. English 0.00MB [enabled]
12:30:11 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1146
Compile DVD: begin copy 1
12:31:06 File NeroRecorderBase.cpp, Line 534
Writing to disc: DVD-R
12:31:06 File NeroRecorderBase.cpp, Line 548
Free capacity on disc: 2286444 sectors (2298496)
12:31:06 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 452
Compile DVD: burning 2286444 sectors (2282925 required)
12:31:06 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 649
Compile DVD: adjust target size to 4465.71MB (4458.84MB obtained)
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Compile DVD: finished VTS_01 Title Vobs
VTS_01 Title Vobs:
Original 2186.89MB -> Expected 2186.89MB -> Output 2186.88MB
Finished error -0.00MB
Ratio encoded = 4
Original encoded = 10579
Slide encoded = 0
StillImage encoded = 0
Output extra size = 149.25MB
Source video size = 2037.64MB
Pictures Modified [I 6] [P 15] [B 40]
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Compile DVD: finished VTS_02 Title Vobs
VTS_02 Title Vobs:
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Finished error -0.00MB
Ratio encoded = 0
Original encoded = 10598
Slide encoded = 0
StillImage encoded = 0
Output extra size = 149.41MB
Source video size = 2011.43MB
Pictures Modified [I 0] [P 0] [B 0]
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Compile DVD: finished VTS_03 Title Vobs
VTS_03 Title Vobs:
Original 17.78MB -> Expected 17.78MB -> Output 17.78MB
Finished error -0.00MB
Ratio encoded = 0
Original encoded = 40
Slide encoded = 0
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Output extra size = 0.54MB
Source video size = 17.24MB
Pictures Modified [I 0] [P 0] [B 0]
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Compile DVD: finished VTS_04 Title Vobs
VTS_04 Title Vobs:
Original 90.11MB -> Expected 90.11MB -> Output 90.11MB
Finished error -0.00MB
Ratio encoded = 0
Original encoded = 265
Slide encoded = 0
StillImage encoded = 0
Output extra size = 4.07MB
Source video size = 86.04MB
Pictures Modified [I 0] [P 0] [B 0]
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Compile DVD: finished VTS_05 Title Vobs
VTS_05 Title Vobs:
Original 2.90MB -> Expected 2.90MB -> Output 2.90MB
Finished error -0.00MB
Ratio encoded = 0
Original encoded = 12
Slide encoded = 0
StillImage encoded = 0
Output extra size = 0.05MB
Source video size = 2.85MB
Pictures Modified [I 0] [P 0] [B 0]
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Compile DVD: completed successfuly (4458.84MB)
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Windows XP 5.1IA32WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0001), size=45056 bytes, created 5/6/2002 12:01:22 PM ahead WinASPI: File 'd:\Program Files\Ahead\NeroVision\NeroFiles\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 12/16/2003 9:18:06 PM Nero API version: 6.3.1.15Using interface version: 6.3.0.6Installed in: d:\Program Files\Ahead\NeroVision\NeroFiles\Application: Ahead\Nero RecodeRecorder: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-104> Version: 1.31 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.1.15 Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1 Drive buffer : 2000kB Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI === Scsi-Device-Map ===DiskPeripheral : WDC WD1800BB-00DAA0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On CdRomPeripheral : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-104 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On CdRomPeripheral : LITE-ON LTR-48246S atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On CdRomPeripheral : Generic DVD-ROM 1.0 d346prt Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off=== CDRom-Device-Map ===PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-104 G: CDRom0LITE-ON LTR-48246S H: CDRom1Generic DVD-ROM I: CDRom4=======================AutoRun : 1Excluded drive IDs: WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (83886080) ByteShowDrvBufStat : 0BUFE : 0Physical memory : 511MB (523764kB)Free physical memory: 242MB (248620kB)Memory in use : 52 Uncached PFiles: 0x0Use Static Write Speed Table: 0Use Inquiry : 1Global Bus Type: default (0)Check supported media : Disabled (0) 12.6.2004NeroAPI12:38:58 PM #1 Phase 112 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 273 DVD-Video files reallocation started 12:38:58 PM #2 Phase 114 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 273 DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified) 12:38:58 PM #3 Phase 111 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 273 DVD-Video files sorted 12:38:58 PM #4 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118 Reader running 12:38:58 PM #5 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 817 DRM: StartDrmRecording(RealRec:1, ImageRec:0, Copies:1) DRM: Beginning burn process. 12:38:58 PM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124 Writer PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-104 running 12:38:58 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3899 First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000) 12:38:58 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3899 First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000) 12:38:58 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3167 Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media 12:38:59 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 245 Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB) Last address to be written: 2283471 (507:26.21, 4459MB) 12:38:59 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 257 Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD) 12:38:59 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2137 Recorder: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-104, Media type: DVD-R Disc Manufacturer: PRINCO - Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193 12:38:59 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 418 >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<< ========================================= 12:38:59 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 813 Setup items (after recorder preparation) 0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 2283472 (2283472) = #2283472/507:26.22 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2283472 blocks [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-104 ] -------------------------------------------------------------- 12:38:59 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 983 Prepare recorder [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-104 ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO DAO infos: ========== MCN: "" TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated Tracks 1 to 1: 1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4676550656, ISRC "" DAO layout: =========== __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_ 0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41 0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41 0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41 2283472 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41 12:38:59 PM #16 Phase 24 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 273 Caching of files started 12:38:59 PM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4177 Cache writing successful. 12:38:59 PM #18 Phase 25 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 273 Caching of files completed 12:38:59 PM #19 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 273 Burn process started at 1x (1,385 KB/s) 12:38:59 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2343 Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0 12:39:00 PM #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1840 Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode for Multisession 12:39:00 PM #22 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 20239 Set BUFE: supported -> ON 12:39:00 PM #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1981 Start write address at LBA 0 DVD high compatibility mode: No 12:39:00 PM #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8120 ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ---- Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050 Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5 Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: 10.08 Mbps (2 h) Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW) End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h Media Specific [16..63]: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 12:39:03 PM #25 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1294 12:39:03.293 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-104\H1 T0 : Queue again later 12:39:32 PM #26 SCSI -1128 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1442 SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x038E0000 Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR) HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK) TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND) Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR) Sense Code: 0x11 Sense Qual: 0x05 CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00 Sense Data: 0x71 0x00 0x03 0xFF 0xFF 0x03 0xE0 0x0E 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x11 0x05 12:39:32 PM #27 CDR -1128 File Writer.cpp, Line 304 Unrecoverable read error 12:39:32 PM #28 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229 all writers idle, stopping conversion 12:39:32 PM #29 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 223 conversion idle, stopping reader 12:39:32 PM #30 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2215 EndDAO: Last written address was 767 12:39:32 PM #31 Phase 133 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 273 Writing short lead-out 12:40:02 PM #32 Phase 38 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 273 Burn process failed at 1x (1,385 KB/s) 12:40:02 PM #33 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 828 DRM: DRM burn session terminated. 12:40:02 PM #34 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 857 DRM: Closing entire DRM handling. Bye. Existing drivers:File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0001) built by: WinDDK, size=16512 bytes, created 5/6/2002 12:01:14 PM Registry Keys:HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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Disc info:
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Compile DVD: exit
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12. June 2004 @ 13:21 |
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jimduggan...hope you get this fixed...i had a prob with Nero in that nearly half my burns ended in coasters whilst every thing seemed fine.Only found out when i watched the discs live.It wasnt a media issue, just Nero playing up.Followed all the guides etc, just couldnt trust it.I guess Nero and my pc fell out big style.I now use clone to burn(decrypter/dvd2one/clone) and 400 discs later NOT ONE GLITCH!!My point is sometimes you have to say goodbye to software!!!Best of luck
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13. June 2004 @ 11:31 |
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Hi Jim,
Oriphus has region free firmware for your Pioneer:
http://www.chrismccann.co.uk/pioneer_firmware_upgrades.htm
Here's an official version:
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/hs/pioneer.html
I found lots of firmware for this drive, yours needs updated:
Recorder: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-104> Version: 1.31
I missed this the first time.
At this point I would suggest doing the firmware update, using different media.
Because you have been doing a lot of registry stuff, it is probably a good idea to remove Nero and then download a fresh .exe to reinstall. Use Nero's cleaner tool:
http://www.nero.com/us/631940828445001.html
This tool is designed to properly remove the program.
I forgot to ask, but what other programs do you have installed, Roxio for example can cause conflicts.
Something looked a little odd to me on your last burn log:
Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD1800BB-00DAA0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-104 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : LITE-ON LTR-48246S atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : Generic DVD-ROM 1.0 d346prt Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-104 G:
CDRom0LITE-ON LTR-48246S H:
CDRom1Generic DVD-ROM I:
Am I looking at the image drive as your I: drive?
Your first burn log showed a different setup.
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hmmm...strange...i can burn w/ dvdclone. what an amazing piece of software. too bad it gives you no idea what's going on. otherwise i've only installed nero, decrypter, and shrink. i also installed daemon tools between those burn logs, that's what that virtual drive is. i still can't burn anything other than dvdclone. am i right in concluding that both shrink and decrypter depend on nero somehow? or just shrink?
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so far 3 dvds in a row burnt w/ clone. i still get the buffer problem w/ alcohol though. i think i'm going to try linux. thanks for the help
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15. June 2004 @ 15:29 |
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Jim,
I have no solution but like to share my experience. With "princo" media, I also ran into buffer and other strange error messages.
I've tried all the sw/firmware recommendations with no successes.
So, I went for a different media. And what do you know? Bang! Everything works like a charm! No need sto change any settings, downloading dll, etc. etc.
You may want try out this simple change of media to see if you can achieve at least a few successful burns.
Note: DVD Decrypter, as well as Nero trial version, just hate "Princo" brand. My experience that the sw will write some header and abort the burning operation right away for coaster collection.
However, with my 200 princo blank discs, I was lucky enough to use "HotBurn" sw to get ~97% successful rate.
Hotburn is the sw shipped with my Iomega drive.
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15. June 2004 @ 18:31 |
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i forgot to mention that my firmware (1.31 for pioneer dvr-104 doesn't seem to be upgradeable (or downgradeable either). it comes stock, and is region free for some reason. i can't upgrade it with any of the firmwares you guys sent me or even pioneer's. so i guess i have to stop using princos huh. princo is a cool name but they really do suck
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21. June 2004 @ 14:21 |
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I have also the Buffer problem. My drive is a Pioneer 107. And what it does is a little strange. The buffer goes all the way to 100% and starts writing the disk at 4x, it takes about 45 seconds to get there (I use ritek g04 disks), but in some cases the drive goes idle for a second or two and the buffer goes back to 0% and after trying, the device buffer goes up again to 90 to 100 %, and back to o% again. I takes twice the time to burn a disk, but the burn comes ok. it is strange because in many cases it does the burn as it should. and some times it does what I just explained. I am using the same ritek media and the same software (Nero), I updated tthe drive firmware and the aspi seems ok. I do not mind to wait 30 minutes for a 4x dvd to burn but it is anyoing and I do not know why is this happening. I also checked the connections and the master slave pin, everything is as it should. Does anybody have an idea what is going on?
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21. June 2004 @ 18:45 |
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Hi juca39,
Why don't you post a Nero burn log?
Check that you have DMA enabled and all the regular PC maintenance completed. (Defrag, etc.)
How much RAM are you running?
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24. June 2004 @ 14:15 |
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Fasfrank.
Next time I burn a disk I will post the log. I did not save any when this has happened.
Yes my DMA is on.
I am using 256 RAM
Pentium IV 1.8
Two hard disks: 20 and 40 g's. the 40 g drive is only for temporary files and I check it every time I erase a file. The Hard disks are defragmented when needed.
All connections rechecked and OK. Power OK. Aspi updated. Burner Firmware updated. Pattin OK.
As you can see everything looks fine, but something is wrong. Maybe my drive is not OK. But when checking with Nero it says it is OK. so I don't know.
The media I use is from Ritek GO4 and is fine. After burning no pixels or skips or anything.
This happening to me is odd, because it only happens once in a while, like one time out of 6.
As said before, the burn is O.K but it takes twice the time to burn.
Bur I am concerned thinking that very soon the Buffer will stay at 0% and I will not be able to burn anything.
I also must say that this only happens with Nero, with decrypter it doesn't happen, but the burn DVD is not recognized by my home DVD, so I must burn with Nero in order for me to watch the DVD in my home player.
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24. June 2004 @ 18:50 |
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I'm wondering if you are running out of RAM. Just a theory right now. Try and disable as many processes as you can while performing the burn. That might free up enough memory to make a difference.
You probably have a burn log but just don't know where it is. Nero apparently creates one after every burn. I have four or five that Nero saved. I didn't know Nero was saving logs until I happened upon the location while visiting the Nero website a couple of weeks ago. See if you have some logs here:
C:\Program files\Ahead\Nero\NeroHistory.log
If you have a log that you can identify as one of your "slow" burns, just copy and paste it into your reply. Make sure you remove your Nero registration number though.
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When news of the first dual format DRU-500 were released I read an article where the tester experienced numerous problems. He finally discovered that it was his 300 W PSU. 250 W is just too little, I couldn't swear that that's the problem but it's certainly a strong contender.
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juca39...
I had a similar memory-related problem and found that the default virtual memory settings were not enough to handle the large files involved...so I increased it. Here is a good discussion, with fixes, on virtual memory for XP: http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.php . The same would apply to other OS's.
I would also suggest doing a simple memory diagnostic on your RAM. Microsoft offers a free d/l here: http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp . You will be prompted to make a startup diskette, which will run several different tests on your RAM. If one of the tests fail, it is a good indication why you experience a random memory-related problem. I would add here that if you get the same failure code for all your sticks, it is the MB that is likely failing.
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When news of the first dual format DRU-500 were released I read an article where the tester experienced numerous problems. He finally discovered that it was his 300 W PSU. 250 W is just too little, I couldn't swear that that's the problem but it's certainly a strong contender.
I agree about the PS it may not be causing the problem, but it's possible. For that system I'd recommend at least 300 Watts, if not 350. Just the number of drives and PCI devices is enough to justify that. On a related note, having a low quality power supply (even one with the correct wattage) can cause all kinds of strange problems as well. I stick with Antec or Enermax personally.
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Keep in mind that most of the PSU wattage claims are based on tempetatures way lower than the normal operating temp inside a PSU. The higher the temp goes, the lower the wattage output :)
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26. June 2004 @ 09:33 |
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Fasfrank,Vurbal.
I suceeded burning 4 disks yesterday whithout any buffer problems. My first copy, out of five, had buffer problmes. You were right my RAM was very low so I increased the virtual memory by 20%, I also increased the superbufer in Nero by 20% (that is what they suggested in their own site, to increase it), since then no problems. I also used shrink to make an ISO image. Turn off and turn on my computer, and than burn it with Nero image copy, and it was much faster than recode 2. It came out perfect every time. As I said before, every time I burn dvd's whith decrypt the burnt dvd's were not recognized by my home player, but with Nero it does, why?. Do you think is there any picture quality differences between shrink and recode 2? Is it better to use Deep Analysis in Shrink?
Another question. As I told you before I have 256 Ram, and I want to have more I have two 128 chips, it will be OK if I add a 256 chip so I could go to 512 or I have to replace both chips for one 512? What would you do?
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26. June 2004 @ 16:10 |
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juca39...
Generally speaking, you should be able to fill up any available slots with RAM...but this ultimately depends on the design of your MB...so check your MB documentation. If you do add more RAM, remember to increase your virtual memory so that it is 1.5X to 2X greater. Also, the min and max should be set to the same values for this app.
Before buying more RAM, though, see how your system is currently using CPU and memory resources during file compression and burn. Do this by launching Task Manager (press Ctrl/Alt/Del) and choose "Performance". This graph will show your active CPU and memory usage. The "System Cache" in the Physical Memory category tells you how much RAM the app is using. With a 1.8 CPU you might find additional RAM has no benefit...especially if other background ops are turned off (i.e., you might have enough RAM to keep up with the CPU). To get a complete rundown on the numbers, check this link: http://www.theeldergeek.com/sizing_the_page_file.htm
I have a 2.6 P-IV w/512 DDR (490 MB available) w/W2k Pro. I am currently doing a backup (K-PAX) and can show you how resources get used with different apps. While I prefer DVD2One, I have included Shrink:
DVD Shrink - "Backup/encode function" 310 MB @ 100% CPU usage ave
DVD Decrypter - decoding 350 MB @ 20% CPU usage ave
DVD2One - compressing 380 MB @ 50% CPU usage ave
Nero Burn @ 2.4X 280 MB @ 10% CPU usage ave
As I interpret the numbers, more RAM would not help me with either DVD2One or Shrink. I suspect the "bottleneck" is now my HDD...but it will always be something.
Also...note that Shrink is the ONLY program that is both memory and CPU intensive...running the CPU at a constant 100%!!! This can quickly lead to overheating and irratic results without a very good heatsink. Other data suggests a constant 100% usage will shorten the life of the CPU. While Shrink is a good program, it simply pushes my resources to the max, and I believe this has caused "gremlin" type problems. If I knew how to slow Shrink down, I would. As it is, when I use Shrink, I never know if the end product will be acceptable...which can require viewing the complete movie several times (I wish I had that kind of time). I can show a good burn...yet have skips and synch probs using the best of media. In all fairness, though, I have to say that I once made a backup in IFO mode that jumped off the screen!!! While others have an ongoing positive experience with Shrink, mine is inconsistent. I've yet to have any probs with DVD2One...which also works for me because I'm a "movie person" that rarely watches the extras more than once.
Concerning your quality questions about Shrink, Recode 2, and deep analysis, these are "meaty" topics of ongoing AD debate with no straight-forward answers. There are some excellent threads that have discussed these. Here is a link I found useful...that another AD'er once posted...which compares the results of these and other softwares using actual pics for comparison.
http://dvd.box.sk/articles8.php .
Keep in mind that (1) other people have reported different results compared to the author's, and (2) some of the sw's tested have been improved upon since the article was published. Nevertheless, the article is a good baseline from which to learn and form your own preferences...and then to hopefully contribute your results.
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If you do add more RAM, remember to increase your virtual memory so that it is 1.5X to 2X greater.
That was true with Win95 and Win98 and maybe ME, because they had serious memory leaks and their ability to cache RAM was chip and application directed. Windows 95 and 98 on their own sucked at managing memory. Because the files handled at the time weren't that large, an adjustment to and limiting your swap file to one and a half to 2 and a half times your main memory could help it along. you could force windows to use main memory more effectively.
Windows 2000 and Windows XP however can cache all the memory you throw at it and they aren't application directed. With video ripping and compression you are asking your system to do the unsual, to process multi gig files. By the old standard if you had enough main memory you could get along without a swap file but when you're dealing with such large file then an increase in the paging file (swap file)makes good sense. Even if you have more than a gig of installed memory.
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26. June 2004 @ 17:26 |
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Sophocles...
By the old standard if you had enough main memory you could get along without a swap file but when you're dealing with such a large file then an increase in the paging file (swap file)makes good sense.
I don't quite understand your post. Are you suggesting that VM should or should not be user determined...or that the user should let the OS take care of it on its own...or what?
I'd really like to get to the bottom of this VM thing, because some of the lit is contradictory. Most of it says that allowing the OS to manage its own pagefile.sys size with "unusual applications" (like we are dealing with) would cause excessive HDD head movement, thus reducing performance. And...that this movement can be minimized by the user establishing the VM size...with 2X being more than adequate.
I'm wondering if you think this advice is accurate or not? Also, my own experience is that my system will "cough" when the VM is set below the actual RAM.
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