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DVDrebuilder CCE, with DVDremake and Other Tools for Beginners
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5. August 2004 @ 08:19 |
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brobear
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5. August 2004 @ 08:55 |
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@Happyuser
I belive the point was missed. You are disagreeing on technical terms in a Newbie forum. My request for the better guide was from your claims of superior understanding. Write the guide for the beginners, just leave the technical jargon and wranglings where it belongs, in an advanced section.
Your game of one-upmanship places you in the role of being a nuisance. I would guess you don't want to be perceived in that manner. So why not take this to the advanced section where it belongs and leave this Newbie section alone. If you have a simple guide or instructions, just present them and they will be accepted or not. Having a running disagreement of this sort helps no one.
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5. August 2004 @ 12:50 |
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5. August 2004 @ 13:55 |
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happyuser
What I don't understand is why you had to introduce yourself so abrasively and start putting people down. We're all here to learn, not to waste our time fending off insults. If you recall in a previous post I made to you I stated that if you have something to offer then tell us what it is and we'll listen, share it with us there?s always room for growth. Instead you chose to put us down. Vurbal?s made an apology to you and perhaps he?s found a reason to but I think you also owe him an apology.
I would like you to go back over your posts and delete them, I?m certain that Vurbal will do the same and so will I. I?ll let Vurbal decide which thread is best to pursue this discussion. If your point is valid, you?ll find us a lot more accommodating if you?re a little nicer.
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5. August 2004 @ 19:39 |
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Sophocles is correct. This could have been handled better and should have been dealt with elsewhere. A PM or an email would have been more appropriate than hashing it out in public on a newbie site.
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6. August 2004 @ 06:17 |
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It's a shame that happyuser chose to simply come in and treat us like children to be talked down to instead of adults to discuss things with in a rational fashion. I have no problem with being proven wrong. In fact I welcome it. I'm always looking to learn more. But I won't be talked down to like that. I'm willing to shrug it off the first time or 2 and give people a chance to change their tone on the chance that it may be unintentional. If you want to get people to listen to you there are better ways to do it, and if you want to prove your point, telling the people you're disagreeing with to prove it for you isn't likely to accomplish anything.
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samintx
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6. August 2004 @ 08:07 |
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OK...dumb questions: I need two programs with DVDrebuilder. I also need to buy CCE? but I don't see where to buy it.
It is for DVD-R 9G disks??. But I can use with 4.7G?
Will write only -Rs? can you use an external Sony DVD+/- drive with this software?
Looking for something that is as good as DVDXpress. I love that program. Also like FASTDVDCOPY for mac
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6. August 2004 @ 08:22 |
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The DVD-RB/CCE guide is a very good place to start. It has all the links you will need:
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/dvd_rebuilder_tutorial.cfm
It is for DVD-R 9G disks??. But I can use with 4.7G?
The S/W combo will convert a DVD-9 to a DVD-5. It is set up like other 1-click transcoders with a source and destination folder. You need a burner like Nero. If the file does not need compressing, rip with a program like DVD Decrypter and burn directly to disc.
Will write only -Rs? can you use an external Sony DVD+/- drive with this software?
The DVD-RB/CCE process gives you a file you can burn to +R or -R. You can use an external drive.
Looking for something that is as good as DVDXpress.
The quality of output is significantly better than DVDXpress or any of the other popular 1-click transcoder programs.
Also like FASTDVDCOPY for mac
I do not know if DVD-RB/CCE is MAC compatible.
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6. August 2004 @ 12:14 |
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Here is the questions: actually two very relevant questions for all of us:
1. You have a dvd of pure NTSC ( 29.976 ) interlaced. Are you willing to encode this dvd with DVD-Rebuilder while knowing that this DVD-Rebuilder will use "Forced Film" on this 29.976 pure interlaced to bring it down to 23.976 and then this DVD-Rebuilder will encode this pure interlaced content as interlaced ( alternate_scan=true )?
If you DISABLE "INTERLACED" for all VTS-Sets, this DVD-Rebuilder will encode every VTS-Sets as Progressive without deinterlacing anything.
2. You have a dvd that the main film ( movie ) is of Progressive ( 97% or higher FILM ( Progressive ): one that we can use "forced film" feature on ): obviously you have to use the DVD-Rebuilder to encode this DVD: because DVD-Rebuilder handles well contents of ( Progressive ) film well.
But EXTRAS ( trailers, behind the scenes, etc. ) ( on this same dvd ): some are FILM, some are contents that need to be IVTCed, and some are PURE interlaced ( NTSC ). Obviously, FILM and contents that need to be IVTCed are handled well by this DVD-Rebuilder. But PURE interlaced NTSC contents will not handle well in this manner as follows:
a. Let's say, for example, VTS_05 has six ( 6 ) video segments ( AVSs ) of either FILM or contents that need to be IVTCed, and this VTS_05 also has twenty ( 20 ) video segments ( AVSs ) that are pure interlaced ( NTSC ). Obviously, if you DO NOT disable "Interlaced" for this VTS_05 and use "Deinterlace with DECOMB", DVD-Rebuilder will encode the above twenty ( 20 ) pure interlaced video segments ( AVSs ) as interlaced ( alternate_scan=true ) and with the lines "FieldDeinterlace(blend=false)" and the "ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)". What would be an issue is that FieldDeinterlacer is a bad deinterlacer, and ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true) will result in some form of color shifting. Further more, interlaced encoding is far worse than Progressive encoding.
b. So now you will not use "Deinterlace with DECOMB": DVD-Rebuilder will not deinterlace the above twenty pure interlaced video segments ( AVSs ) and encode them as interlaced ( alternate_scan=true ) and with ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true) at 23.976 fps. According to documentation of DVD-Rebuilder, ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true) will result in some form of color shifting.
c. Now you will DISABLE "INTERLACED" for the above VTS_05: DVD-Rebuilder will encode all the video segments ( AVSs ) as Progressive ( progressive=true ). Now you go into the twenty pure interlaced video segments ( AVSs ) above and insert statement to deinterlace with SmoothDeinterlacer into every single one of these twenty pure interlaced video segments ( AVSs ).
d. Now there you go: the twenty pure interlaced video segments above will be deinterlaced with SmoothDeinterlacer and then be encoded as Progressive ( progressive=true ).
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6. August 2004 @ 12:35 |
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I've copied this last post (along with some comments of my own) to a new thread so we can have a serious discussion without derailing this one any further. We can always post our eventual conclusions here when we're done.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/99448
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6. August 2004 @ 17:09 |
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No more
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X56kemoX
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7. August 2004 @ 07:40 |
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why get mad there is no gain .
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7. August 2004 @ 09:33 |
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X56kemoX...
A number of us are peturbed over happyuser's breech of forum etiquite in this thread, and this has been resolved elsewhere. Clearly, however, you have never had the experience of devoting your time and energy to something meaningful, only to have someone come along and disrespect it ... or you wouldn't have to ask that question. For you, this forum is still a place to take, and to not give back. I trust that will change.
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7. August 2004 @ 11:31 |
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Hmm!
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7. August 2004 @ 11:32 |
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X56kemoX
My concern was that the statements made by happyabuser might be read by someone who would as a result of those statements, be turned off from trying DVD-RB/CCE Basic. No one had a problem with him disagreeing with us it was this condescending attitude which was further complicated by his direct putdowns of us. One can only be told that they don't know what they're doing so many times before they feel a need to respond.
Further more this is a thread for beginners and not a place for advanced users to shoot their mouths off. If he had concerns about DVD-RB then he should have taken them up in an advanced thread. I PM?d him the URL for an advanced thread that I knew had a good chance for jdobbs the author of DVD-RB to read his dribble. I?m happy to say that as soon as he began posting jdobbs showed up. His tone went from self proclaimed superiority to some embarrassing butt kissing.
Read the stuff that he posted then follow the URL below and read again.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/3/97052
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8. August 2004 @ 03:15 |
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Excellent observation Sophocles.
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samintx
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8. August 2004 @ 06:32 |
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I'm curious...I have laptops and Sony external DVD drives that r/w DVD+/- disks.
I can make copies of previously decrypted DVDs just fine with DVD-R disks but when I try to make copies of copies with DVD+R NO SALE.
The drives are capable but is it the software that Roxie and others write that will only write to DVD-R? Why do we have the dual capable drives if the software only writes to -R????
Is it the software?
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8. August 2004 @ 06:40 |
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samintx
I find that odd because Sony DVD burners are generally more geared towards DVD+R than they are DVD-R. What media are you using?
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8. August 2004 @ 06:49 |
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Imation this weekend but the "dup" disk I'm copying from is various makers.
The DVD+Rs play fine but I think it is the software that will not let the copies of copies copy. I'm using the software that came with the external Sony drive and I also tried Roxie 7.
I also made a copy (for information only) of a copy made with DVDXtreme and the computer copied the copy and then said "there was an error in the copying" but when I played it(the new copy of a copy)...it was fine. Is this making sense.?
So difficult to talk about copies of copies of copies and make it clear!
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8. August 2004 @ 06:58 |
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8. August 2004 @ 07:20 |
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samintx...
I used Roxio until I switched to Nero for backing up DVD's. Roxio would often do strange things when trying to make a copy of a CD or DVD. I ended up copying the files to HD first, and then I did a regular data burn of the file.
As Sophocles points out, it may also be a media issue. I didn't know about DVD InfoPro then, but I've found this is a fine utility that will tell you if you have read errors on your source media:
http://www.dvdinfopro.com/
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samintx
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8. August 2004 @ 08:32 |
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Doc: I've had Nero and tried it but I am so used to Toast (mac) Roxie that my brain just navigates to it. I will try copying to disk and then backing up. I thought maybe there would be hidden files that might not copy to a HD ......I haven't tried backing up to a DVD+R because I use CDs for the few files I back up. Thanks for tip..will try..and see what happens.
What I wonder if the movie houses will change the codes.....and I do think as someone on this string mentioned the rentals(in house) have a special code attached because they do not dup in my experience.
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8. August 2004 @ 09:40 |
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We have a little confusion going on here. You actually posted in a forum about using a very specific type of software which is used for making backup copies of one's own original DVD movies. When I said backing up my DVD's, I meant DVD movies, not files. Anyway, I have never come across "hidden [DVD] files" that would not copy, so I don't think this is your problem.
Concerning your follow-on question, I don't quite understand what you are asking? Your first question indicates you know something about DVD's that have copy protection removed (decrypted), yet the follow-on question indicates you don't. As your question(s) look like they are going to need more than a simple answer, and they don't support the purpose of this thread, I would suggest you check out the DVD-R Shrink forum. DVD Shrink 3.2 is a freeware download from AD, there is a ton of info you can find in an AD Search, and it has guides you can google for. As a final note, if what you are asking in your last question is how to decrypt a rental movie, this is considered piracy here at AD, and it isn't condoned. However, AD will certainly help you to make a Fair Use backup of any DVD you own.
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samintx
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8. August 2004 @ 09:47 |
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Let me state here I don't back up rental movies. When I first got my software I had rented some movies and before I thought...to try out the software I tried copying it...
I have a library of about 1200 DVD I have purchased and purchase anywhere from $5000.00 to $7000.00 per year from DiscountDVD and Amazon so I am not one of those that you describe. Last year I purchased nearly 9000.00 in DVDs...so....
I'll shut up for now...I think I'm confusing the issue. Thanks.
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8. August 2004 @ 09:54 |
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Don't take Doc the wrong way, he just wanted to make sure he wasn't helping you pirate movies. The searches he suggested should help clear up any problems you're having, they just don't seem to be related to this thread is all.
@Doc:
I've noticed you've been quite the posting fool (referring to the number of posts not the content) lately. I hope the powers that be take notice and promote you soon. You've been doing a great job clearing up problems for people lately.
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