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Is my CPU burnt, or what is the matter?
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Praetor
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6. July 2004 @ 06:27 |
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Well in that case, you're probably going to have-to/want-to reformat ... should get rid of the problems :)
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hodab
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6. July 2004 @ 06:35 |
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thanks Praetor, I'll do that. By the way, how can one become a member to Afterdawn?
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Praetor
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6. July 2004 @ 06:44 |
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Sent you a PM.
But before you run off and format, something you might want to consider: plug that harddrive into the other computer and see if it powers up properly (to eliminate the possibility that the harddisk is fried) -- just make sure the system is off first! :P (friend of mine did it with a new 160GB drive with the system on and it worked out ok heehee -- but i wouldnt reccomend it)
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6. July 2004 @ 07:07 |
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Dont you think it was a bit stupid putting ram in when pc was on. Didnt you think that you might electrocute yourself or frie your pc. Did you say you can load windows or it stops at the network screen. If it loads then te hdd is ok but if it doesnt then it may well be fried. Try praetors suggestion of putting it in your old pc, only put in the hdd out of your newer pc, if it works then the hdd is ok but if not then it is probable fried.
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Praetor
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6. July 2004 @ 07:13 |
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If it loads then te hdd
Not neccessarily -- it could just mean the bootup section of the harddrive is okay
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matty8887
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6. July 2004 @ 07:15 |
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well once he is onto windows he can find out after running various software and if he has trouble with it then he might find he needs a new one.
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hodab
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6. July 2004 @ 07:33 |
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well, I don't think the hard drive is fried, because it shows the content when I put it as secondary hard drive on my older computer. This previously-supposed fried computer doesn't boot with the older hard drive, neither my older computer boots with the newer computer hard drive! In both cases after 2 or 3 screens a blue page appears which says that the gard drive is unbootable. But my older hard drive boots my older computer and my newer hard drive shows all the files as a secondary hard drive in my older computer. Well, I tried to reformat the hard drive for the previously supposed fried computer, but after I run booting from Windows 2000 CD, and after it loads the files in the very first step, it shows a blue screen saying two sentenses at two different attempts: 1) An attempt was done to write on a read-only memory. 2) DRIVER-IRQL-LESS-OR-EQUAL. I really don't know what is happening. Couldn't clearing CMOS help?
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Praetor
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6. July 2004 @ 08:30 |
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1) An attempt was done to write on a read-only memory
Sounds like your harddisk has become read only?
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2) DRIVER-IRQL-LESS-OR-EQUAL
Your basic, run of the mill (and incredibly uninformative) BSOD errror :)
You can try clearing the CMOS but i dont think it will help
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hodab
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6. July 2004 @ 09:48 |
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Sounds like your harddisk has become read only?
I don't think so, since it says this for both hard drives, including the one I'm using now (and writing on)
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Praetor
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6. July 2004 @ 12:42 |
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I don't think so, since it says this for both hard drives, including the one I'm using now (and writing on)
Slightly confused .... on the "fried-machine", when you plug in the "fried-HDD" it says gives you the read-only error?
Does it give you the same error if you plug in the "good-HDD"? If it does give you that error there are two possibilities: (1) The harddrive controller is fried, meaning new MOBO or PCI controller -- unless the PCI slots are fried or (2) the installation is givign the computer a "read BIOS" command but somehow that command is getting scrambled and the computer gets a "alter BIOS" command and rejects it... causing the installtion to fail -- meaning you should probably get a new mobo.
No if it doesnt give you that error when you try to start up W2K installation on the "good-HDD" then it would seem to be a fried-harddrive type issue.
Of course all of this could just be a symptom of scrambled -- but not fried (no pun intended) memory .. commands are being stored in memory but getting scrambled and when the commands are fetched from memory, a different command is returned
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matty8887
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6. July 2004 @ 12:48 |
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praetor i dont think he will know what you are on about. I think you will probably end up buying a new mobo seen as they arent too expensive for a decent one.
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Praetor
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6. July 2004 @ 14:25 |
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praetor I dont think he will know what you are on about.
Let's let him decide what he does and doesnt know .... 'sides I'm willing to explain it to people who care to listen.
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I think you will probably end up buying a new mobo seen as they arent too expensive for a decent one.
You are right however -- why spend money when there isnt a reason to do so?
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hodab
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6. July 2004 @ 14:28 |
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matty8887, I well understood all that Praetor posted. Anyhow, now at more attempts for reinstallation of Windows, it persistently shows this error:
DRIVER-IRQL-NOT-LESS-OR-EQUAL
Maybe I'd better think of spending some money.
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6. July 2004 @ 14:41 |
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DRIVER-IRQL-NOT-LESS-OR-EQUAL
This is a generic (unfortunately) BSOD message Windows likes to pop up (very rarely will you ever see another msg in normal circumstances). So unfortunately i cant elaborate on it for you.
When does the msg pop up (i.e., how far into the installation process)? Can you format the harddrive using the other computer?
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hodab
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6. July 2004 @ 15:14 |
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Quote: When does the msg pop up (i.e., how far into the installation process)?
After the first step (loading files from CD) is complete.
Quote: Can you format the harddrive using the other computer?
If I can?
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Praetor
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6. July 2004 @ 15:17 |
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After the first step (loading files from CD) is complete.
So everything loads, you press "Esc" to get a new installation and then press "F8" to agree to the license and then you goto select a partition to install Windows onto right? Or further? Or earlier?
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If I can?
I.e., if the other computer cannot format this drive then it would suggest a fried disk :)
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hodab
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6. July 2004 @ 15:30 |
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Earlier to Esc or F8.
Now I'm going to format the HDD with the older computer. I'm almost sure that I can do it.
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hodab
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6. July 2004 @ 15:42 |
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Now I have the HDD on my older computer(ie. this computer), and I can read all of my files and even wrote a test file on it. I will now try to format it.
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hodab
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6. July 2004 @ 17:14 |
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NO, it's useless. The old computer didn't format the HDD, but with the old computer the HDD can be re-installed successfully. I think the problem is motherboard. Now it's 3:12 in the morning in Stockholm and I've been tired with this tricky computer. Any consideration?
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Praetor
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6. July 2004 @ 17:27 |
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Are both computers using W2K or are you trying to deal with a NTFS partition with W98 or something? ... In either case if the "fried-HDD" doesnt work on the "good-computer" thats at least one potential thing that might need to be replaced: you can try and delete the partition in say, Partition Magic and then rebuild it.... worth a shot.
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6. July 2004 @ 18:16 |
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If hodab can read the files on his other computer, then either the other computer has XP or Windows 2000 on it, or if not, the hard drive is not formated NTFS. The hard drive must be ok, but I am scratching my head trying to figure out what he should try to do. I know that I would try another hard drive in the "fried" machine and see if I could format it. If that doesn't work, I would try a different ribbon cable, just to see if it would work. If that doesn't work, I would put the original hard drive on the Secondary mobo connection as a master and his optical as a slave, just to see if it will find the hard drive, after the Windows disc goes through its paces. If it finds the hard drive then, I would back out and get a new mobo, because the Primary mobo connection is fried. Well, not necessarily. Damn.
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Praetor
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6. July 2004 @ 20:07 |
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If hodab can read the files on his other computer, then either the other computer has XP or Windows 2000 on it, or if not, the hard drive is not formated NTFS
Well technically he could have had a NTFS capable bootdisk (or used something like Partition magic to view) ... but I didnt think of that when I posted ..,... actually I was midway through having a brain fart. :P
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Well, not necessarily. Damn.
Yep! If i had the machine physically i could prolly figure out what needs to be replaced and what doesnt but i dont have it so not much I can really do :|
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6. July 2004 @ 20:42 |
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LOL, and amen, Praetor. We don't have his computer physically, so we can't figure out what is good and what isn't. Frustrating as hell, because you hate to tell someone who has made a huge mistake to get parts that he/she may not need.
We have all made big screwups and learned from our mistakes. I guess that that is why half the fun of having a computer is screwing it up and learning how to fix it. :) Ok, a tad strange, but it is the truth. :)
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hodab
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7. July 2004 @ 00:02 |
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well, both computers were running windows 2000, and the HDD had NTFS file system. Last night I tried all the ways which Grandpa mentioned, didn't work. Sounds like hdd is OK. Actually I repartioned the hdd by fdisk in DOS, but just repartitioned it, not formatted. I wanted to format it during the installation process. The thing is after repartitioning, the unformated drive can be tried to be installed and formatted in the old computer but not in the new one. Ja, big crazy stupid mistake I've done. No way, but at least I'm sure I'll do it never again, oshhhhhhhhh
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hodab
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7. July 2004 @ 00:06 |
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Just one thing sounds strange to me: While both HDDs had NTFS file system, and supposedly it is the mobo in new computer which doesn't work, why then the HDD files can be read in the old computer and can be written on, but it can't be formatted in the same old computer??
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