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9. July 2004 @ 07:25 |
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Does anyone here run a Mobile CPU? i've been looking around and cant see very many at all. If you do...how succesful have you been with it? I just want to get a feel for how well i can do based on everyone elses scores. so far ive hit 230*11 which is a decent overclock. ive seen higher fsb and processors at 2.7ghz. i would like to get at least 240 but i need a volt mod...and hopefully my ram will foloow up as well. feel free to post scores...or questions if you dont have a mobile computer.
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9. July 2004 @ 08:24 |
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bird1234 has a mobile:
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AMD Athlon XP-Mobile 2500, oc'd 10*233
512 OCZ EL Dual Channel PC4200
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Radeon 9500pro-->9700pro oc'd just a little :)
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10. July 2004 @ 06:25 |
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hes got nice ram and a nice vid card...diff mobile but still good overclock. anyone bench??? wonder what kinds acores you would get.
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10. July 2004 @ 07:30 |
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The lower voltages would affect the power consumption and OC overhead but not actually affect the running of the chip. It would perform comparable to a desktop chip with that OC
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10. July 2004 @ 07:40 |
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would a desktop barton overclock as well though??? i dont think you could take a 2500barton to 2.5 or higher on air unless it was freezing or something lol. im sure he could take his 2500M chip past 2.3...unless he just likes 2.3 lol. maybe his mobo wont go past 233 or 10multi...that would be weird.
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10. July 2004 @ 07:44 |
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2.5Ghz... that might be doable with forced air.... you'd probably need a peltier (or maybe not, I can get 2.43 without touching voltages or nothing so it might be doable fine) ... what i meant was the mobiles would typically OC higher but compared to a similarly OCd desktop chip, the performance is the same
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11. July 2004 @ 04:19 |
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ah that makes more sense. i never had a desktop barton when i was using normal chips...i tried the 2000XPTbred, and the 2400XPTBred...then just went mobile. so im not really sure what theere capable of.
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11. July 2004 @ 05:36 |
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Aside from the OC overhead, there's nothing really different about the chips: if you compare two identically clocked chips odds are they'll perform identically :)
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11. July 2004 @ 19:09 |
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what if you had a barton...and a tbred B...clocked same. the barton would come out on top correct? sue to the 512mb L2 cache? i never benched mt Tbred B so i wouldnt't know lol.
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11. July 2004 @ 21:08 |
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Yes the barton would come out on top because of the cache advantage -- not 512mb tho! :P
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12. July 2004 @ 08:03 |
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lol im so dumb. i meant 512K...typo. i guess no one wants to post there mobile scores...lol what a bad thread.
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12. July 2004 @ 22:47 |
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Yeah i know you meant that :P ... to be honest, other than the OC ceiling there isnt much difference between similarly "cored" chips running at identical clocks.
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djbuddha
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21. July 2004 @ 06:40 |
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to be honest, other than the OC ceiling there isnt much difference between similarly "cored" chips running at identical clocks.
The initial reason we all wanted to go with 2500+ mobile chips is because of the incredibly low voltage core it can run its stock speeds at. (The desktop chips are rated to run stock speeds at 1.65 VCore while the mobiles can run stock speeds at 1.45 VCore) .. essentially; they are the same chips; but the Mobiles are considered the best of production line as they don't need as much power to run at its rated speed.
You're right .. there isn't much difference; when AMD produced these chips; to save on production / time .. all these chips were created from the same Wafer board. When they tested all these chips, AMD labelled the mobiles as they would run perfectly at 1.45 VCore (safely at the consumer level). Beyond the Voltage Core and the 266 FSB setting (hah .. joke) .. there really is no difference.
The reason we all love to overclock them is the sheer brilliance of AMD ;) .. These chips were initially engineered to run at 1.65 VCore at stock speeds. As they realized that these chips can do less VCore and maintain proper operation .. us OC'ers think "well .. seeing at they're already unlocked multipliers; what would happen if I actually ran it at the desktop default of 1.65 VCore .. or higher even with good cooling??"
To answer the myth .. the desktop chips THERORETICALLY will not clock as well as these mobile chips. They're stock performance is based on a 1.65 VCore setting. Unless you REALLY want to over-volt your processor and try to clock it higher; it's not a logical nor is it a safe idea! ;) lol
I'm purchasing a 2600+ XP-M tomorrow .. will post my scores when I get time.
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21. July 2004 @ 07:20 |
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yay! someone wit hthe same processor as me! lol i thought this thread died.
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djbuddha
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21. July 2004 @ 09:04 |
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yay! someone wit hthe same processor as me! lol i thought this thread died.
LOL.
I noticed on another board that a user was able to get a 2600+ XP-M to clock at 2700MHz on air at a VCore of 1.85 ..
Can't wait to get this chip. (I ended up ordering it today off a cheaper site I found with it so I'll be receiving it tomorrow from the sounds of it).
Wish me luck ;) ..
PS., what were your scores like?
::EDIT:: saw your scores above .. so much for asking lol
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21. July 2004 @ 10:47 |
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To answer the myth .. the desktop chips THERORETICALLY will not clock as well as these mobile chips. They're stock performance is based on a 1.65 VCore setting. Unless you REALLY want to over-volt your processor and try to clock it higher; it's not a logical nor is it a safe idea! ;) lol
VERY true ... both in theory and in practice ... of course it's strange that when the cooling gets really fancy, the upper ceiling for the Desktops and the mobiles arent that much different (with the mobile more often on top)
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21. July 2004 @ 11:28 |
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2700mhz is quite an overclock for air. i think if i raised multiplier higher it wouldnt be too hard to get it. but temps would be in the 50C+ idle i imagine. i hate running that hot. hopefully water cooling or the like isnt too far away for me.
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djbuddha
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21. July 2004 @ 13:16 |
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2700mhz is quite an overclock for air ...
... but temps would be in the 50C+ idle i imagine. i hate running that hot. hopefully water cooling or the like isnt too far away for me.
Let's put it this way (LMAO) .. The system I'm throwing the new mobile chip into WAS running idle around 55+ - 60C at STOCK speeds (XP2100+) .. the machine had been moved around quite a bit .. long story why.
One of the rubber feet on the top of the processor (which you seat the heatsync on) was destroyed (so I make-shifted one) which didn't serve too well.
Funniest part of the above story is that ANOTHER foot came off and the processor ACTUALLY RAN at 90C!!!!!! I found out when I opened winamp and it played a track on its own and didn't show up in the taskbar or tray. When I went to close it in task manager, the user names for who ran which program / service miraculously disappeared at random) LOL.
Upon rebooting and checking my temps I saw 90C so I shut it down immediately and then noticed that the heatsync wasn't seated properly. So .. I KNOW the board / chip still works .. I ordered a new Vantec TMD Fan and an Athlon 2600+ XP-M for this board. All should be well.
Moral of the story ... 50C is NOTHING .. AMDs can withstand a threshold of at LEAST 75C (that's what THEY say .. you know you can go higher) LOL. But as it stands, I want to stay below 50C so I see your point.
And THERE'S my humour for the day. Enjoy that :P
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22. July 2004 @ 13:11 |
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if you get the right mobile chip the die temperature is 100C...pretty impressive. i think the hottest my computer has ever gotten is 65C and that was my 2400+. today my mobile is at 1.75V ~32C. but a few days ago it was going to 50C just playing mp3's. kinda odd. the ABIt temp isnt trustworthy lol. my gf's computer runs 47C idle stock cooling...too hot:(
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djbuddha
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22. July 2004 @ 13:36 |
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Well I haven't received my processor as of yet ..
There was a slight (stock) mix-up at the store I ordered from .. and if that wasn't enough; there was an issue from the company that is shipping it to me. (It's air-shipping and they JUST missed the flight out last night) .. The store ended up upgrading my processor(for free) to the Athlon XP-Mobile 2600+!!! (don't tell me there's stock when I order it and then tell me that it's out of stock while I wait patiently) lol.
From reading; it's a much better chip to overclock with than the 2500+ Mobile AND from what I'm seeing; it's more available (it's was only $10 more; but I can live with the discount) :P I should get it tomorrow.
In the meantime; I've been reading up on the best ways to apply thermal compound. (I'm staying on topic of this thread don't worry) .. While reading this; I'm also curious at to which compound comes with the Vantec Aeroflow TMD fan which I also ordered with my (now) Athlon 2600+ Mobile. Anybody knows if this compound is better than typical OEM-shop compound; lemmie know ;)
I was THINKING of overclocking it when I receive it; but I have an "opinion" question lol. I'm getting my processor tomorrow morning (most likely .. assuming all goes well and the truck doesn't get taken away by some mysteriously large condor .. ) ..
ANYWAY .... I DJ on friday nights .. so I'll probably install the processor as soon as I get it. BUT .. I will not do any overclocking whatsoever with it (yet). I know that I'm out of the house for at LEAST 6 hours .. so I'm THINKING that I may put it under some heavy stress tests at stock speed (using prime95 Torture tests and / or distributed.net benchmarking "All Core" tests) .. just to work the thermal compound in ...
Does it make any sense to do that BEFORE overclocking? (I've read in various places that some people like to burn in the chip before testing its overclock-ability).
Lemmie know what you guys think (the scores will come soon from my Mobile; promise) :D
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22. July 2004 @ 13:50 |
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Stressing the CPU, RAM, mobo...basically all hardware b4 you overclock is called "burning in". its effective most of the time because it gives all the thermal paste, thermal tape, silicon (whatever the chips are made of nowadays) a chance to heat up, loosen up, and set in. I usually burn-in my hardware for a good long time b4 i try a massive overclocking job. after burn-in tests have shown that you cna get slightly higher overclocks. with ch-5 ram it is basically required to burn it in or you cant overclock. the stuff i had i burned for about a week nad look at it! 465mhz, 2.5-2-2-5 @ 2.7V. BIOS is crap im sure i could hit higher going 2.8V+. So yes i would recommend leaving your computer while you DJ (awesome!) and having it loop a benchmark or w/e u decide u like. just make sure in BIOS to set a shutdown temp just incase your fan dies on your CPU or something. very unlikely...
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djbuddha
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22. July 2004 @ 19:03 |
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Stressing the CPU, RAM, mobo...basically all hardware b4 you overclock is called "burning in".
Oh I know lol. I thought it may serve some purpose burning in with a CPU intensive program.
As long as if I set a shutdown temp in the BIOS .. it ACTUALLY shuts down lol. (the fan I ordered is a Vantec fan which runs at about 5700 RPM) :D .. noise is not really an issue here cuz I don't sleep in this room.
I'll set the shutdown temp to 63 .. hopefully I mount my heatsync / apply the compound properly that I won't see this temperature at full load while I'm playing tomorrow night. (thanks for the 'awesome' remark btw) lol.
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23. July 2004 @ 06:30 |
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unfortunately this rig i built for my gf runs 57C idle:( i lapped the stock cooler and thats the best it gets i guess. poopers lol. i put "awesome" cuz i really love watching DJ's in action. i just went to a quinceniara(mexican party no idea how to spell lol) and they hired some dude, he got drunk and fell off his stand...pretty funny lol.
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23. July 2004 @ 08:43 |
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OK .. installed processor! (running at stock 2 Ghz .. case open temps aroumd 33C) .. i'm gonna close the case and burn in while I head out to play later .. lowest VCore I could set was 1.57) .. I'm gonna see how high I can get it with distributed.net with the case open .. then with the case closed (when I go play) ... then I'll try overclocking it tomorrow
::UPDATE:: .. ok so much for not trying to overclock it today lol
Currently, my multiplier is at 12.5 @ 205 FSB (older KingMax PC-3200 RAM w/ bad latencies) lol. Clocks at approximately 2.563 ghz and at max load (running distributed.net for 2 hours) hit about 43C (idle temp at around 36C).
Damn ASUS A7N8X-X lol .. if I had a board that didn't limit my multiplier to 12.5 .. this thing would FLY. (VCORE IS ONLY AT 1.675!!!!!) which is .025 Volts above standard desktop processors!!! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SPEED lol.
Anyhow; will set it to burn in again while I'm playing at the gig. Wish me luck.
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23. July 2004 @ 20:01 |
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is your mobile a 35watt or a 45watt? 1.675 @ 2.563ghz seems too good to be true for a 45watt. i gotta run 1.70 to have it stable at 2.559ghz. nice temps!
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