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Are you folks stumped, or is it just not my day?
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smsmike
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22. July 2004 @ 20:23 |
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Posted a question about a DVD that would load and play on any standard DVD player, but refused to be read or recognized by a DVD drive in my computer. Tried all three of my DVD-RW drives and all three of them refused to acknowledge that the disk was a video disk - fact is, they refused to even acknowledge that there was ANY type of disk in the drive. DVD Decrypter and DVD43 didn't help either.
What program do I need to install to get the drives to read the disk. I'll tell you one thing, if this system was used as copy protection, it would be real darn good. Nothing I have will touch it!
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22. July 2004 @ 20:46 |
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Hi,
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a DVD that would load and play on any standard DVD player, but refused to be read or recognized by a DVD drive in my computer
Is this a factory or burned disc?
If a drive(s) refuse to recognize that there's a disc in the drive I'd suggest installing or updating your ASPI.
Here's a useful link that will help:
http://forceaspi18.w.interia.pl/
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22. July 2004 @ 20:50 |
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I just had a look at your other post. If the disc isn't a factory original then there's a whole range of possibilities as to why it won't play. Most discs of that sort are made on the cheapest equipment available using the cheapest media available by people who could care less about compatibility.
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smsmike
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23. July 2004 @ 08:49 |
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Still no answer to my question. WHY will it play "PERFECTLY" on a normal DVD player, but is not even recognized as a video disk, or ANY media by the computer drives? It is a "Pressed" disk, not a burned copy.
This is the very FIRST disk that I have found that my computer drives could not even read the directory. I certainly hope that this does not become the copy protection of the future..
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karen2003
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23. July 2004 @ 14:24 |
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I PM'd you about this, don't know if you got that one.
The only thing I can think of is that your stand-alone DVD players play the type of disc that was burned -- e.g., DVD-R or DVD+R -- but your computer DVD reader/burner doesn't read them all. Don't know if this is a possibility, but have you tried the disc in a computer DVD reader/burner that you KNOW reads all types of discs?
Otherwise I'm stumped.
-Karen (the Air Force brat)
Karen H.--Dell Optiplex GX240, P4 1.50ghz, 256mb RAM (yeah, I need more), Windows XP Pro w/SP1, 80gb c: drive (replaced the 20gb c: that crashed), 126gb i: drive, 124gb j: drive, 500gb external hard drive partitioned into k: and l: drives, Sony DDU1621/C1 DVD-ROM to rip/encode, Sony DRX-530UL to burn, new Sony DRX-840U to burn DL discs ... need a new computer to go with it!!
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colw
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24. July 2004 @ 01:55 |
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Not stumped at all - just reluctant to assist someome who choses to abuse people that try to advise/assist them.
There are certian rules and protocols to observed on these forums and there are ways to phase questions that do not suggest pricacy/illegal activites.
As advised in your previous thread - if you buy crap - expect crap.
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buxton
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24. July 2004 @ 04:43 |
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Because DVD players are generally better than DVD/ROMs quality wise. You haven't stated what makes you have in your PC.
Example, do you have Plextor drives or cheap unbranded drives.
You think you have issues - I have a DVD original that played once in my DVD player and then never played again! Although it is fine in my PC and every other DVD player I tried it in - ended up giving it away and re-buying it.
I don't know what I am doing.
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smsmike
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24. July 2004 @ 08:24 |
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Colw writes: As advised in your previous thread - if you buy crap - expect crap.
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Sorry to bust your bubble, Colw, but I "bought" the disk as a NEW "Factory Original" and received, "Crap" for my money. There is a difference. Since I used "Pay Pal" to make the purchase, I have every intention of getting 100 percent of my money back. Be that as it may, I would STILL like to know WHY the disk is causing my Computer DVD drives such grief. I have two Mad Dog Dual Format Dominators, and they are top of the line drives. Since it's obviously NOT a hardware issue, where does that leave me?
P.S. This forum has ways to reply privately to folks when certain issues of "Rules" might be in order. I never attack publicly - unless attacked first, IN PUBLIC. There are right ways to make a point, and then there are.....
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jetyi83
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24. July 2004 @ 18:28 |
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ive had little problems like this.. i don tknow if anyone answered it yet but, sometimes the dvd-rs just arent read as easily on your disc drives as on your dvd players.
some drives are more picky than others, and if your media is cheap that might make it even worse. If it doesnt recognize it at all i dont know what the problem is.
but in order to play the dvd flawlessly i usually had to drag the data only to hard disc and play it like that.
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64026402
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25. July 2004 @ 01:47 |
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Sorry to bust your bubble, Colw, but I "bought" the disk as a NEW "Factory Original" and received, "Crap" for my money. There is a difference. Since I used "Pay Pal" to make the purchase, I have every intention of getting 100 percent of my money back. Be that as it may, I would STILL like to know WHY the disk is causing my Computer DVD drives such grief.
In your other post you stated that it was an obvious pirate copy.
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It's obviously a Pirated (pressed) copy of the original, because there are all sorts of (very amusing) misspelled words on the cover art.
This is a newbie question at best. Also against the rules.
In any case you have already answered your own question. Others have answered it as well. It is the crap disc.
Next time be nicer to the people helping you, post in the correct place, and follow the rules.
Good luck on your next purchase.
Donald
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smsmike
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25. July 2004 @ 09:23 |
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64026402 writes: This is a newbie question at best. Also against the rules.
In any case you have already answered your own question. Others have answered it as well. It is the crap disc.
Next time be nicer to the people helping you, post in the correct place, and follow the rules.
Good luck on your next purchase.
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Ok, I can only assume that nobody knows WHY the disk plays PERFECTLY on my DVD Player, but refuses to even be acknowledged As A Media Disk (of any kind) by any of my computer Drives. My computer DVD drives won't even read the directory.
It is NOT because it's a "Crap Disk" my friends. It is a perfectly good DVD as far as ANY normal DVD player is concerned. Let us HOPE that this does not become the copy protection of the future. Because, if it does - well... Do I really need to spell it out for you?
I have successfully backed up over 300 DVD titles in the last 8 months, and have NEVER run across anything like this.. Perhaps a "Newbie to this forum, but hardly a Newbie to the world of disk copy procedures...
God Bless one and all - Mike
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64026402
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25. July 2004 @ 11:07 |
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Some stand alone players do not require full DVD-rom compliance to function. A lot of pioneers will play crap discs that won't read on a computer.
Regardless. If you buy a legal copy it should play and backup just fine. Obviously a pirate copy wouldn't have protection anyway. Please refrain from pirate talk on this forum.
Creating backups in volume doesn't remove the newbie nature of the question.
Donald
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 25. July 2004 @ 11:08
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siber
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25. July 2004 @ 11:51 |
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smsmike, obviously there is a program on the DVD that puzzles you so much. Otherwise it would not play on your stand-alone.
I do believe that laser beams on stand-alone's are often more forgiving. They have to be tuned so that many different and some poor quality DVD's can be played. Computer DVD players are definitely more precise and require better media.
The only other thing you can check is to make sure that you have the latest firmware on your DVD drives. I doubt it is an issue but make sure anyway.
I am positive that - with the information you have given - this is NOT related to some new form of encryption. It is related to a variant on your DVD. Your stand-alone's deal with it, your DVD drives don't.
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siber
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25. July 2004 @ 12:06 |
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I did check on your 'Mad Dog' DVD drives as I was not familiar with the brand. They are actually NEC 2500 drives. Good quality drives. The last firmware should be 1.07.
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smsmike
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25. July 2004 @ 12:36 |
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Thank you, sir, you have been more help in two replies than most of the others have been in many. Name calling aside, this can be a decent place for information from time to time.
Again, thanks for the time and effort.
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P.S. I have decided to KEEP the disk and play around with it. I love a challenge and this DVD certainly presents one.
- Mike -
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siber
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25. July 2004 @ 13:24 |
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