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6. August 2004 @ 17:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think we all got the message across loud and clear. We are just trying to protect the forum and abide by the rules. Its just a matter of how and what you post. If you are breaking the rules and the law, just don't brag about it on here.

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6. August 2004 @ 19:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
SCS did you read the link i posted... it was very intersting to me that a 12x drive wrote faster then a 16x drive, if you blew the link off... dont read it its very interesting.

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8. August 2004 @ 20:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Would that new Pioneer be a good drive? it has 4x dual layer shich is somrthing nice..Im not too concrened that the 16x takes a minute longer then the plextor 12x..i guess it would be better then the lite-on/nec i posted ? the oem is at newegg, $105 http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=27-129-157&depa=1
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8. August 2004 @ 20:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Based on previous models, here's how I'd rate the burners I'd consider buying:

For DVD burning:
1. Pioneer
2. Plextor (they may actually be as good as Pioneers, but I've never owned one so I can't rate them as high)
3. Lite-On

For Copy Protected CD Burning:
1. Plextor
2. Lite-On
No other brands can do this

For Price:
1. Lite-On
2. Pioneer
3. Plextor (but it's a distant #3)

I don't include NEC on this list because they've made some drives that seem pretty reliable and others that aren't so reliable. If you added them to the list they'd be #1 for price and a distant #4 for DVD burning.

Thanks for posting the link because they still weren't listed the other day when I looked and I'd forgotten to look since. The price seems great, and I definitely expect to buy one within the next few months.

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8. August 2004 @ 21:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I own a nec nd 2510a and i can tell you its a good drive, if i could do it over i would go with the plextor that nephilim has if i could get it for under 100 bucks OEM.. i got this drive for 72 dollars OEM and the only complaints i have is that is not fully EFM capable.. this drive will backup copy protections... all of them except the newest SECUrom protections and the Safedisk 3.x protections.

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8. August 2004 @ 21:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's good to know. I'll have to remember that in the future.

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9. August 2004 @ 02:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
vurbal,

I know this is going to make me look a bit thick and ignorant but what does this mean?
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For Copy Protected CD Burning:
1. Plextor
2. Lite-On
No other brands can do this




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9. August 2004 @ 11:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
those drives are both "2 sheep" or fully EFM capable burners... but what makes it special is that they are the only DVD burners that are fully EFM capable in their cd burning.

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9. August 2004 @ 12:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I read somewhere that my 107 is a one sheep burner.
And yet I've backed up copy protected audio cd's, and copy protected pc games with Alcohol 120%. Or am I on the wrong track completely.



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9. August 2004 @ 17:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well agent k, it depends on the settings your using with alcohol.. if your reading the disk with the safedisk 2/3 setting with the bypass EFM error box check then thats why the backup works (im going to gueess that you have the "ignore media type" setting turned on also. Its possible to make backups of games up to safedisk 2.51 without a very EFM capable drive bbut the will not be 1:1 and will neen emulation to run. If you drive is EFM capable you can do up to safedisk 3.15 and get 1:1 copies without much trouble that need no emulation

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10. August 2004 @ 00:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
2005

So if I had one of the above mentioned burners, I wouldn't need emulation to play the back up disc?
Not that I've needed it so far but I may not have copied a Safedisc disc.
I let clony and alcoholer set the settings so I don't remember what they were.
I usually rip the disc and then mount the image in a virtual drive.



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10. August 2004 @ 04:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I would say also consider this drive. http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=27-106-950&depa=1 The main reason is I've been reading around on cdfreaks, and this drive is the only one I've seen that does decent burns at 12x. You can burn this media http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-132-343&depa=1 and burn at 12x with relatively low PI and PO errors.

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10. August 2004 @ 12:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I would go with the plextor or pioneer drives.. there are one of the very few dvd dual format dual layre format burners that are efm capable.

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7. September 2004 @ 03:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK I just got back from holiday, and still none of you no what I am trying to say!!!

This is how it is: I have been doing copies for a lady dj who is quite well known and also copies for other not well known dj's in the area. They produce a orignal ie a 60-70 min mix so that I can produce them in quantity for the dj lady to distibute in clubs so that fellow followers of the same music ie dance/trance/hard house will look out for her in the future at clubs. If they like the music it will pull more clubbers in at different venues!!! If the clubbers have a free sample in the club they will not say no!!!

And if they like what they hear they will look out for the dj in the future at clubs or they can book the dj's through certain websites etc.

Now do you understand what I do??? Thats why I have a 1-7 duplicator!!! I have permission from the dj's as they give me a copy of their mix and all i do is copy them in quantity and they hand them out in clubs. I get paid for this so why is it illegal guys??? I have permission from the dj and she makes money out of it in the end briniging more punters to the club she dj's at!!!





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