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davecamp
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18. February 2007 @ 06:16 |
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HD --
Your insights are probably saving folks quite a lot of money, and it's much appreciated. I hope you can give my situation the once-over...
Here's my equipment and situation:
* SONY 42B2 -- 42" plasma -- http://www.picturephone.com/products/son...sma_display.htm has the write-up on it, but it does NOT have HDMI or their listed DVI connection -- it has two 15-pin connectors.
* A SONY STR-DE995 7.1 receiver (no DVI or HDMI throughputs or upconversions) -- http://www.dealtime.com/xPF-Sony-STR-DE9...-www.google.com
* I also have several things hooked up: A 5-DVD Sony player (because we load up our CDs in it, too); a Toshiba combo DVD/VCR recorder; a turntable; an all-region DVD player because we travel a lot and bring back a lot of foreign DVDs; my wife's Magic Sing karaoke microphone; a Gamecube.
* I am using Comcast Cable (for HD local networks) using a brand-new Motorola HD DVR box, and
* For everything else, a DishNetwork VIP622 HD DVR.
Quite a pile o'stuff. Heaven knows how I'd connect a PS3 or high-def dvd player....
Basically this is what's happened:
* When I added the Comcast in December after DishNetwork dropped all my networks, I started getting an interference bar that creeps into everything -- dvd, comcast, dish...I haven't experimented to know if it's direct caude-and-effect or not, but I never noticed it until we added Comcast, and they could not figure out the cause; they'd laid in all-new wiring.
* I've gotten a bit of burn-in on the sides of the plasma. Not a lot, and I can live with it, but I'd considered putting it in the game room and replacing it with the Sony 46XBR, till I read your advice. I think I'll hold off.
* Preparing for that purchase, I already bought a Sony STR-DA5200ES for its upgraded HDMI and DVI connections and upconverting capabilities. (I was told a replacement strip is available for my plasma that has a DVI connection but haven't found one yet...I also already have bought a DVI-to-15-pin adapter in case I can't locate one.) I haven't hooked it up, yet. http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_STR_DA5200E...7-32058603.html Now I'm wondering if I should just put this back up on eBay...or if I'll actually improve anything using it.
I'm a bit frustrated here...any thoughts?
Thanks,
-- David
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18. February 2007 @ 07:38 |
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I just thought I would add to the discussion. I just now read this.
1080i looks better than 720p.
Only if you plan on looking at your game on pause. The truth is that 1080i only displays 540 lines every 60th of a second while 720p displays, wait for it..... 720 lines. While 1080i has a slight edge in sharpness, it often suffers from a slightly flickery look that can strain the eyes and cause breakup in fast-moving scenes. Most times, 720p and 1080i are just about even-- they each have strengths and weaknesses but you'll be hard-pressed to spot a big difference. And for HD video gaming, 720p is sometimes preferred for its smoother, slicker frame rate.
http://www.gamepro.com/gamepro/domestic/...res/97928.shtml
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HD_nut
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18. February 2007 @ 08:16 |
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I have no experince with replacement strips, what I don't know I don't know. But if you read through this thread you see my reasons why I'm against 3rd party upconversions.
I don't believe in using a stereo to upconvert.
Can someone help him out on the replacement strip?
720p/60
The fastest and best resolution format!
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error5
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18. February 2007 @ 09:59 |
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Originally posted by davecamp:
When I added the Comcast in December after DishNetwork dropped all my networks, I started getting an interference bar that creeps into everything -- dvd, comcast, dish...I haven't experimented to know if it's direct caude-and-effect or not, but I never noticed it until we added Comcast, and they could not figure out the cause; they'd laid in all-new wiring.
This sounds like GROUND LOOP.
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afunguy24
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25. February 2007 @ 17:50 |
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Do I have to go to college to understand what you guys are talking about?
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Flameon
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1. March 2007 @ 22:13 |
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720p is better for video games I've found, if you play a video game for 2 hours with 720p you feel fine, with 1080i you have a headeche.
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1. March 2007 @ 22:22 |
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Originally posted by afunguy24:
Do I have to go to college to understand what you guys are talking about?
hummm not really but if audio/video isn't a passion/hobby like most of us you aren't going to get it or care lol
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diabolos
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2. March 2007 @ 02:39 |
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720p is better for video games I've found, if you play a video game for 2 hours with 720p you feel fine, with 1080i you have a headeche.
This statement is unfounded. There is no way 1080i causes head aches. If 1080i is giving you head aches its probably your tv set fault for not processing 1080i video correctly.
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2. March 2007 @ 02:49 |
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If you play a video game for two straight hours you need to get a life. Maybe the headaches are a sign that this is not healthy. I don't think you can tell too much difference in the two pictures more than six feet away anyway. JM2C
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2. March 2007 @ 03:20 |
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You lot don't play games much,
I have done 36hour and 24 hours person and charity gaming sessions.
I very rarly play for less than 2 hours.
and yes I do have a life also. but if im going to play I like to get into it. so on average its about 2-4 hours but I may only get play once a month.
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2. March 2007 @ 03:30 |
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Originally posted by DBM_Bones:
You lot don't play games much,
I have done 36hour and 24 hours person and charity gaming sessions.
I very rarly play for less than 2 hours.
and yes I do have a life also. but if im going to play I like to get into it. so on average its about 2-4 hours but I may only get play once a month.
I have to agree here. I don't get to play much but when I do I end upo playing for quite a while. No I don't get headaches with 1080i. Yes I do need to get a life. LOL! Now back to the topic...
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2. March 2007 @ 04:55 |
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Well I'm getting my SONY-KDL-40-W2000U on saturday.
And getting SKY-HD on sunday
so will post on how I find it, on SKY-HD and Normal TV and DVD,PC / Laptop, and PS2, don't have the PS3 yet so will post again on results.
I went with the sony not the sharp as the sharp does not have VGA input, but I think I have now found out you can convet VGA to Componet (not sure if this is right, but don't matter now ;))
Also I have a sony AV amp and DVD player PS etc so will match nicely.
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eatsushi
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2. March 2007 @ 05:22 |
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Originally posted by DBM_Bones:
Well I'm getting my SONY-KDL-40-W2000U on saturday.
How do the Bravia series 1080p LCD panels compare to the Samsung 1080p LCD's?
"The emergence of a single, high-definition format is cause for consumers, as well as the entire entertainment industry, to celebrate."
-Craig Kornblau, president of Universal Home Entertainment Feb 19, 2008
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2. March 2007 @ 05:47 |
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@DBM_Bones and Flameon
I don't play at all anymore. Last was when I beat Legend of Zelda. Exhausting. Am considering getting a Wii. I was just messing with yall. What ever makes you happy is OK in my book.
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5. March 2007 @ 03:19 |
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Originally posted by DBM_Bones:
Well I'm getting my SONY-KDL-40-W2000U on saturday.
How do the Bravia series 1080p LCD panels compare to the Samsung 1080p LCD's?
Well the screens are the same, I went for the sony cos of the better sound Q. built in freeview, and Badge (be easier to sell) and all my other stuff is sony. DVD AMP PS2 / PS3 VCR.
I must say Im very impressed, esp with the SD handling esp as the TV is only about 7' away. will be 8' when I get the lounge re-designed.
It does show how poor SKY HD is. 60% of content is on par with good SD DVD, 20% is worse than SD% DVD and 20% is better. not got sky movies HD9 tho which is got the best bandwidth and Q picture.
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9. March 2007 @ 02:03 |
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Urgent? How many people will die if we don't answer this question in time?
And why are you asking about the choice of "frequency and wavelength"? It's not like you're making two choices.
Why don't you try thinking about that question and coming up with an answer on your own.
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9. March 2007 @ 02:10 |
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@FF3
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Urgent? How many people will die if we don't answer this question in time?
And why are you asking about the choice of "frequency and wavelength"? It's not like you're making two choices.
What the Hell are you talking about???
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15. March 2007 @ 08:34 |
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ahhhhhhhh NOOBY melt down system failure
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Vinnys025
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28. March 2007 @ 19:18 |
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http://reviews.cnet.com/Akai_LCT37Z6TA_3...95.html?tag=nav
Can you guys tell me how the specs look on this and if it will help with what i'm looking for in a tv viewing experience? I just want to use my tv mainly for watching HD sporting events through my HD DTV reciever, thanks in advance.
I'm a newb, please forgive me for the dumb questions.
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29. March 2007 @ 01:50 |
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Its overkill for what you want.
Esp as via satalite/cable you not going to get 1080p
Also on 37" 1080p is a waste as the screen is so small. most companys won't make 1080p in 37" also for sports your not going to want to watch 1080i so you be watch most of the time 720p so I'd get a cheeper set if your not going to use the 1080p
Your only going to use 1080p if you watching Blu-ray or HD-DVD's or have a PS3.
Your better getting a sony or samsung 720p set.
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29. March 2007 @ 02:48 |
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Wholeheartedly agree with DBM_Bones, I recently got a SamsungLCD and ESPN HD sports look great. Nothing but HD DVD, BR DVDs and PS3 put out true 1080p and for that matter, there is very little 720p to watch on Cox cable at this time.
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Vinnys025
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29. March 2007 @ 08:31 |
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So maybe one of you guys could recommend a 720 set for me then. Can I get a 720p 37 or 42" for around 800-900$?
I'm a newb, please forgive me for the dumb questions.
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29. March 2007 @ 09:18 |
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Im not in the USA im in the UK,
But just have a look at samsung LCD that do 720p and get the best one in your budget. not sure if they do a 37" you may have to go a bit smaller, but I'd get a better Q smaller TV and a low Q bigger one. ESP as LCD in someways gets worse the bigger you get.
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Vinnys025
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29. March 2007 @ 09:32 |
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I take it then that the 32" Samsung will trounce the 37" vizio? They are the same price and I know on pcmag they give VERY generous ratings to the vizio.
I'm a newb, please forgive me for the dumb questions.
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29. March 2007 @ 11:44 |
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Originally posted by Vinnys025:
I take it then that the 32" Samsung will trounce the 37" vizio? They are the same price and I know on pcmag they give VERY generous ratings to the vizio.
Vinny, go to www.avsforum.com and do a search for the tv you are looking at and you will get real customer reviews. I never trust reviews from magazines.
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