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The Official OC (OverClocking) Thread!
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18. May 2007 @ 18:15 |
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The reason I asked was because I thought that the Commando was a really good board (out of my price range) but newegg has it for 209US, the same price as the motherboard I was originally going to get, so I began to wonder if I misread something about it.
Thank you, theonejrs.
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18. May 2007 @ 20:31 |
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eparker89,
You're welcome! Least I could have done is given you the link! God, isn't senility great! LOL I can't believe I told you about the price and didn't give a link! Here you go!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131149
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I like that! You have no idea how many silly things were dreamed up to try and replace or refine my "Happy Computering" on another forum. At least this one's worthy! It makes sense too! I won't steal it from ya though!! ROFLMAO!!!
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theone
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P5W-DH !975X v/s Commando P965
Really depends on your aim for the use, but OC is very close on most CPU's and no different on others. We may not see another great !975 from ASUS, so the Commando is gonna be worth looking at.
!975 is concidered the Power user high end chipset, while 965 is the affordible mainstream. P965 is the newer rendition, still speed binned from rejected quality !975X it does bring to the table some new features including ICH8R RAID controller hub and Intel's ViiV. Also Intel 6 SATA RAID (opposed to 6), and now ATI Crossfire multi GPU support & JBOD is now availible for P965, no word on ECC support yet,
I've used both so I can speak for them and say good overclocking on either by ASUS (P5B for my P965). The !975 has just a little cutting edge on some extreme OC'rs but for my #E6600, either was great. The P5W-DH has slightly better power mosfets and electronics onboard to run hotter under load and longer.
Summery; Both can easily hit FSB500 (CPU limited). But Comando is aired at the Gaming market, hence the series "Republic Of Gamers". Now I'm not a gamer, but for the E6600 I use, the Commando would be great since it has extra BIOS tweeks and better Q-FAN control and lots of bling-bling. A LED on rear helps takes the place of old beep diagnostics and can also show date/time/temp/custom name. I/O shield can be lit up in neon blue to help plug N' Play in the dark. More blue LED's can be lit on mobo to mark major connection locations when setting up or just maintainence (in S3 or S4 mode or ATX soft off). Can be left on for show any time you want. And easy connect plugs, you onnect you ATX wires once and remove only this easy plug from now on during maintainence. I use the ASUS CROSSHAIR based on this series and I love it now. Added: oh ya, I like this and use it a lot. These new BIOS feature 2 custom profile stores and several add ons you load from USB flash or HDD or Floppy. Creat various OC profiles and use 'em as needed. How cool is that?
Hope that helps a little
Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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19. May 2007 @ 00:41 |
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The choices are not as hard as they were back in the day of Canterwood (!875P) V/S Springdale (!P865), You actually lost something if needing CSA Intel Gigabit LAN and Server type ECC support. P865 really didn't offer "PAT" natively but ASUS tweeked BIOS to unlock this too in the end of the P865 life. Again, the x65's are speed binned rejected x75's with certain features locked out to make them stable as a new model, thus cheaper to sell. However, since they were really x75's to start, ASUS bin picks the better of what's left and unlocks most of these features to make them closer to what they once were. So Today, a good ASUS with P965 should be ably to keep up with most ASUS !975X and even out perform other brands for any !975X due to BIOS mods and tweeks. WE already have ATI Crossfire and Memory Pipeline Booster for P965.
Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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19. May 2007 @ 01:29 |
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The Asus P5W-DH or the Asus Commando? Hands down the Comando. Supposedly it the best overclocking MB you can get! Happy Computering,
theone
I went in my local shop to order some corsair dominator ram and the bloke that owns the shop has the asus striker extreme MB and he said his board wouldnt even run on corsair? Has any one heard this before? I was ready to pay out for 4gig of dominator so my Comando was OC ready.......?
I just dont want to get stuck with ram I cant use, and that wont be cheap either!
Asus Comando mobo, Q6600 G0, 2gig Corsair Dominator PC8500 1066mhz, Nvidia 7600GS sonic 256mb, Modded-Thermaltake Bach VX with custom fan and air tunnel, 750w thermaltake modular PSU, 37gb Rapter, 3x baracuda 500gig, 1x baracuda 750gig, 22" Asus MW221u w/s, Creative S750 Gigaworks 7.1 surround
2x Laing DDC Ultras with custom tops, 2xBlack Ice GT 360mm Rads with 6x Xilence120mm fans, D-tek fuzion CPU block, EK nb/sb/gpu and both sets of mosfets water blocks, 2x 250ml reservoirss, full 1/2" tubing set up.
Watercooled Xbox360 too......!
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Corsair Dominator RAM
I can't speak for the Striker Extreme (nV680i) but I do know nVidia chipsets do not do well with all 4 RAM slots used. Big issue since the 1st 4 slot nV NF3. Ask if he's overclocking and f so, is he running 4 sticks at once.
Might as well mentioned if not already. Even though these mobos are desighned to run 4 sticks of RAM, most mobos do not OC too well like that. Even better mobos loose high FSB OC and require looser timings to off set. For a gaming rig, less, but faster RAM can off set more but slower. This has to do with the chipset MCH addressing load. Worse for AMD since it is on die and can barely handle the new DDR2 as it is, let alone more of it. You then are asking the MCH to call (read/write access) for twice the RAM in the same time. Things can get sloppy or slow down to prevent crash cause sys needs to try and cache or crash. But even the better !975 looses points if memory bandwidth addressing is to bottled up to work smoothly. To keep from skipping a beat, you will need to loosen timings and my not be able to hit as high FSB. The !975X does do well with 2x2g single sticks but these RAMs come in poorer speeds usually aimed towards servers. So 2x1g at tight timings and high FSB is gonna be better for a high end OC and for gamers.
Furthermore, ASUS and Corsair kind of go hand in hand when it comes to performance. If you'd dig up Corsair Labs test report for all their past and present top notch RAM, you'll find an ASUS flag ship motherboards underneath most. And if not for some, it's usually cause the model was just coming out.
Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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So what your saying is buy corsair but only run 2x1gig?
Asus Comando mobo, Q6600 G0, 2gig Corsair Dominator PC8500 1066mhz, Nvidia 7600GS sonic 256mb, Modded-Thermaltake Bach VX with custom fan and air tunnel, 750w thermaltake modular PSU, 37gb Rapter, 3x baracuda 500gig, 1x baracuda 750gig, 22" Asus MW221u w/s, Creative S750 Gigaworks 7.1 surround
2x Laing DDC Ultras with custom tops, 2xBlack Ice GT 360mm Rads with 6x Xilence120mm fans, D-tek fuzion CPU block, EK nb/sb/gpu and both sets of mosfets water blocks, 2x 250ml reservoirss, full 1/2" tubing set up.
Watercooled Xbox360 too......!
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19. May 2007 @ 07:35 |
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eparker89,
I know I'm gonna get it in the neck for this but frankly, I don't know if I would buy either MB at this time. I've been doing a lot of reading up on both and the DOA and failure rate is kinda high on both the P5W-DH and the Comando. And not just at Newegg either. Even there, counting a liberal dose of the "Idiot Factor", there's just to many problems with both boards. Way too many failures and a fair amount of multiple DOAs! Right now it seems to be a matter of pure luck whether you get a good one or not.
I recently went through this scenario with an Asus P5N-E SLI/E4300 build and I'm lucky to have any hair left at all. Between the problems I had with the first 2 motherboards and some folks in the forums I belong to questioning whether the 2 claimed bad ones were really bad (hinting that it might be me)! Add to that, my starting to question myself after the second one died after 4 1/2 hours, needlessly as it turned out as both MBs were confirmed by Asus Tech to be bad after they examined the returns (Thank you Trinity), we received full credit for both! I was finally successful and got the damn thing built and shipped off to Chicago. Runs very nice at 3.0GHz and She's happy with it.
In contrast a couple of weeks later I built an E4300 for myself on a GigaByte GA-965P-DS3 v.1.33 and it was the easiest build and overclock of my life. No BSODs! No "mystery" shutdowns or lockups, and it runs right fine if I do say so myself, at 3.275GHz. It was a bit of a vindication for me as well! It will even run flawlessly at 3.363 if I was willing to push the voltage past 1.40v. It would even run at 3.393 and run fine at that speed but without raising the voltage it would crash OCCT after about 5 hours or sometimes reset while in the middle of proccessing a DVD with DVDRB.
Given that experience, I would plunk a Quad Core in this MB and see what it can do in it first, live with it for a while and then when all the kinks are out of the 2 Asus motherboards in question I might move to one of them. It would depend entirely on how well the Quad Core performed in this one! V1.33 supports the Quad Core and has a native 1333MHz FSB, so I would be good to go right now! I'm totally impressed with the 965P Express chipset and the overall adjustability and features with this one and I'll bet it would do a good job with the Quad Core, so I don't think there would be any urgency to run out and buy a new MB for a Quad Core as this ones pretty well sorted out. What's really funny to me is the v.1.33 while newer and better than the older ones and has many more features and better components, it still costs less! At this point, I think it was $100 very well spent! Thank you, DocTY!
Just my thoughts!
Happy Computering,
theone
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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Sorry! AD is having some problems this morning. Double post!
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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Even though my experience has been far less painful, I'd have to agree with you. I did manage 3Ghz out of this one without changing too many settings, but the process of doing it was a joke. It may be more the nForce 650 chipset than anything else, I don't know, but having to guess which frequencies the board will 'let' you run it at is pathetic. As low as 2.3Ghz some frequencies refuse to POST, and I now run at 3Ghz using the same settings as I tried back then (Voltage, timings etc). I would try for higher speeds, but I probably won't be able to get 3Ghz back again, so it's not worth the risk. I'd also like to mention 1334mhz FSB is significantly more stable than 1333mhz.
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19. May 2007 @ 08:41 |
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sam most of the issue you had were due to you trying to force the board to use dividers it cant do. as long as i kept mine at 1:1 it would post almost anywhere.
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Sam,
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It may be more the nForce 650 chipset than anything else, I don't know, but having to guess which frequencies the board will 'let' you run it at is pathetic. As low as 2.3Ghz some frequencies refuse to POST
Spot on Dude! I think it's a question of some future bios revision. The difference between the 650i and the 965P is the maturity of the 965P. This was the first chipset Intel ported to the C2Ds so it's got about a 6 month head start. Mine will run right up to a 377MHz setting on the buss, but 378 gives a black screen! Most of that is the 4300's inability to handle the higher frequency being as it's only an 800MHz chip to start with. The 6300 will clock considerably higher because of it's native 1066MHz buss speed. Whether the memory slot problems can be solved with a bios flash remains to be seen. Gina's would boot up with 1 stick in slots 1 or 3 but it would BSOD if I used both slots. Using the black slots is a temporary answer as far as I'm concerned. Bottom line is that it should run perfectly no matter which pair you use. If Asus/Nvidia can solve this problem through a new bios, fine but if they can't then it's back to the drawing board.
i'm pretty sure I know why it all happened! The first P5N-Es were great overclockers with little or no problems other than the memory slot thing. I think once they got them up and running good, they changed some of the components to lower the costs. I think they went a little too cheap and are now paying the price. Witness the fact that Asus has several motherboards that are very troublesome at the moment. It can't be all chalked up to bad luck. Read the reviews and overclocking forums and it will give you an idea of how bad things are right now. It's fortunate for Asus that the design was successful at first or they would be dead in the water and stuck with a bad rep! I know for a fact that the failures of the 2 that I sent back were caused at the board component level by faulty components. That being said, it isn't always wise to buy your parts from the lowest bidder and I have to assume that the samples presented to Asus were better than what they ultimately received in bulk. I can't think of any other explaination for what happened. They knew it was good when they brought the MBs out and most were very successful at OC'ing so if that's the case then it has to be a change at the component level that caused all the problems!
When you read about folks smoking components on their motherboards on a design that had been previously good there is nothing else it could be, and all I've looked at info for so far is the Comando, P5W-DH, P5N-E and a couple of other popular MBs. It reads like a who's who of broken MBs and memory problems. You shouldn't be seeing multiple failures or DOAs the way they are being reported right now. I read about one poor guy who went through 4 P5N-Es either being DOA or DSA (dead shortly after)! He didn't go back for a 5th! He bought a GigaByte instead and got a refund!
I expect to buy the components and put them together and have it all work, at least stock. Gina's 2nd one melted down bone stock at 1.8GHz! The good thing for Asus is that they were all reasonably successful to begin with otherwise they might just be in real trouble. That's their saving grace, the fact that for the first few months there were not a lot of problems other than the memory slot thing. Your's was the lone exception to that, that I've seen or heard of. I guess that means you got a good one! I'll guarantee that if you call Asus and tell them you are getting BSODs, or the machine is rebooting itself the first question they will ask is which slots the memory's in!
I'll tell you this, if I bought a Quad Core tomorrow, it would be running in my DS3 tomorrow night! Even then it would take a hell of an improvement or overclocking advantage to make me change to a different MB at this point in time. I've absolutely tortured this one and like a Timex, it keeps right on ticking! Very quietly too! LOL!!
Best Regards,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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With the comando it says it only supports 533/667and 800mhz ram. If I still put 800 will I be able to clock past this......?
And if I can only put 2sticks of ram in there please tell me what I should be buying if I plan to push the settings?
Asus Comando mobo, Q6600 G0, 2gig Corsair Dominator PC8500 1066mhz, Nvidia 7600GS sonic 256mb, Modded-Thermaltake Bach VX with custom fan and air tunnel, 750w thermaltake modular PSU, 37gb Rapter, 3x baracuda 500gig, 1x baracuda 750gig, 22" Asus MW221u w/s, Creative S750 Gigaworks 7.1 surround
2x Laing DDC Ultras with custom tops, 2xBlack Ice GT 360mm Rads with 6x Xilence120mm fans, D-tek fuzion CPU block, EK nb/sb/gpu and both sets of mosfets water blocks, 2x 250ml reservoirss, full 1/2" tubing set up.
Watercooled Xbox360 too......!
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tinytom,
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With the comando it says it only supports 533/667and 800mhz ram. If I still put 800 will I be able to clock past this......?
And if I can only put 2sticks of ram in there please tell me what I should be buying if I plan to push the settings?
If it was me, I would be either doing some waiting or switch to a different brand MB. I just spent all night looking around the net to see other peoples findings and a lot seem to be having problems with several of Asus's motherboards right now. Even discounting the "Idiot Factor" there's just to many either DOA or failing in short order motherboards out there right now.
Funny as hell! The Fedex driver just now dropped off my replacement 16x DVD-Rom from Asus. It was packed in a MB box so he thought it was a MB and asked me about it. We got to talking about computers and he told me he builds them as a hobby for family and friends. To make a long story short, he's on his second P5N-E and he's mad at Leo LaPorte (a local computer talk show host) for recommending it in the first place. Now that's funny!. No lie either as he showed me the box! He's taking it in to work to pack up and ship it back for exchange. Small world!
To answer your original question, I could recomend that you buy what I have and be very happy with it, but I don't want to be labeled a Gigabyte/G.Skill fanboy! LOL!! I bought it based on advice from an extremely knowlegible friend, giving him a list of what I was planing to buy and asking his opinion. He not only gave me his opinion but wound up saving me about $60 on the MB and memory by linking me to a sale on the MB, which led to my discovering the lower price for the memory as well! He's a member of the Forum but I won't say who as this wasn't on the thread! If he wants to say something, that's fine with me! Mort81 was the one who got me thinking when he questioned as to why I would go with a P5N-E when I just gotten done with 2 weeks of major problems and 3 motherboards building one. My thanks to both of them as I'm a very happy camper!
In my night long search on the net I discovered 2 things! Most folks are getting around 2.8 to 3.0GHz out of an E4300 at the moment, while I easily got to 3.275 with this MB, and there are an abnormal amount of problems with certain motherboards right now. Would I go out and buy a DS3 v1.33 knowing what I know right now? Bet your A$$ I would!
Happy Computering,
theone
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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Double post again!
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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To ask again, can I clock the comando ram past 800 mhz?
It says it supports 533/677 and 800.
If I buy corsair 800mhz can I push it past that with the board?
Ive got my mobo now and I dont think the shop will let me take it back for a refund with out good reason? Ill see how I get on with my e6600 when all the parts arive. I will be back here asking for you guys to help me get the most out of my set up though....?!
Asus Comando mobo, Q6600 G0, 2gig Corsair Dominator PC8500 1066mhz, Nvidia 7600GS sonic 256mb, Modded-Thermaltake Bach VX with custom fan and air tunnel, 750w thermaltake modular PSU, 37gb Rapter, 3x baracuda 500gig, 1x baracuda 750gig, 22" Asus MW221u w/s, Creative S750 Gigaworks 7.1 surround
2x Laing DDC Ultras with custom tops, 2xBlack Ice GT 360mm Rads with 6x Xilence120mm fans, D-tek fuzion CPU block, EK nb/sb/gpu and both sets of mosfets water blocks, 2x 250ml reservoirss, full 1/2" tubing set up.
Watercooled Xbox360 too......!
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tinytom,
I got this from Asus web site!
Commando
-Intel® Quad-core CPU Ready
-Intel® Core?2 Extreme / Core?2 Duo Ready
-Intel P965 chipsets
-Dual-channel DDR2 800/667/533
-Extreme Tweaker
-SupremeFX / DTS Connect / Noise Filter
-LCD Poster
-Onboard Switches
You are going to raise the fsb anyway so with the right multiplier you should be fine.
Best Regards,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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YES, if you get either mobo, and want to push for higher OC, stay w/ only 2 RAM sticks in dual hannel. It's not the mobo, it's the MCH and chipset handling.
The Commando is based off the P965 NB of the well loved P5B, so it should be good for 500+FSB w/ the compatible CPU. The only CPU's I got to 511 and 532FSB were the E6300 & E6400 and thus the RAM did well as 1:1 DDR1064. The P5W-DH is gonna be better for higher to near FSB600 but I had no CPU to take it there, but know people using OCZ DDR1200 on some.
Remember, ASUS like Corsair is usually the 1st to bring us these hot toys, so cut them come slack if it needs some smoothing out in the end. If the model is prooven a good one, then you'll see fixes rather then a new one. Lokk at the famus`P4C800-E, or P5WD2, still rock solid for their time, and hard to beat.
Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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19. May 2007 @ 13:06 |
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Keeping Up With The Jones
It's mostly us, the consumer that are to blame for these early bugs. We push thes companies to get it to us so quickly we dont care. So tyhey do and we get 1st flight bugs. I'ts OK to be the 1st to get on the band wagon, but leave room for advancement and except bugs.
It sucks wanting to be 1st on the block. I remember my 1st P4C800 (non E) and liking it , nut only to find it was revised for new features too soon after getting into it. So I buy it again cause I wanted the latest Intel CSA Gigabit LAN. But thats just me. Lot of us will never use the features we brag about before upgrading to all new system. Example; I never once, used my secure IDE of my then new ABIT IC7-MAX3. That was the last year (2003) I even had an EIDE HDD to try it with. and only used IEEE 1394 for my iPod then, or Wi-Fi at home was too slow (out dated) too soon.
Buy it cause you like it today, unless you expect to keep it for more then 3 - 5 yrs. If thats the case, then by all means, I'd go for ASUS known stable model today. And in my experience, it looks like the P5W-DH for now. It's had well over 1.5 yrs service so what does that tell you. P4C800-E's are stillbeing sold (hard to find). and many will likely be in service for closer to 10 yrs.
I don't claim to be an ASUS fan-boi, but I can speak from personal experience of over 13 yrs of ASUS. I buy the new cause I hate waiting for months to read a synthetic lab test of a bin picked OC and get excited over numbers.
I will admit I have had several issues with new ASUS mobo's over time but nothing too serious, and nothing that wasnt fixed via BIOS flash. My CROSSHAIR is a yr old last month and I had all kinds of weird little issues, but over the yr, they were fixed 1 by 1.
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ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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19. May 2007 @ 13:27 |
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Im lost now, so does this mean with 800mhz corsair ram I will be able to clock it on my board to for aguments sake 1066mhz?
Ive not even built my system yet, Im just trying to get my head round what I can expect from a comando board, e6600 (L629F) and pc6400 corsair dominator ram? Ive got an AC 7pro, AC silver paste, AC 500w psu. Id like 3.6g minimum really, is this realistic?
Asus Comando mobo, Q6600 G0, 2gig Corsair Dominator PC8500 1066mhz, Nvidia 7600GS sonic 256mb, Modded-Thermaltake Bach VX with custom fan and air tunnel, 750w thermaltake modular PSU, 37gb Rapter, 3x baracuda 500gig, 1x baracuda 750gig, 22" Asus MW221u w/s, Creative S750 Gigaworks 7.1 surround
2x Laing DDC Ultras with custom tops, 2xBlack Ice GT 360mm Rads with 6x Xilence120mm fans, D-tek fuzion CPU block, EK nb/sb/gpu and both sets of mosfets water blocks, 2x 250ml reservoirss, full 1/2" tubing set up.
Watercooled Xbox360 too......!
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19. May 2007 @ 14:01 |
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As I mentioned earlier, the E6600 is gonna be the limiting factor here. I never got it over 500FSB to use DDR1000 @ 1:1. 1066 was only done 1:1 w/ a rest E6300 on both the P5W and P5b (1P965). The newer ICH8R SB used in new !P965's make it 1333 ready for new BIOS flash so you can expect to see a new BIOS for these mobos soon as it becomes the norm. Now that really only applys to stock 1333 CPU's since we can already hit FSB2000 on these. If you want to use DDR1066 or 1200 for that mattter, you will need to use deviders. OK if moderate OC, but not too high. The E6600 did like 1:2 10 1100 as 275x.
Does this help?
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ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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tinytom
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20. May 2007 @ 00:23 |
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I think Im just going to have to get it built, then maybe these numbers will start making sense. Its all starting to sound like Im not going to get very good results even with the money Ive spent, or maybe I have just bought the wrong parts?
Asus Comando mobo, Q6600 G0, 2gig Corsair Dominator PC8500 1066mhz, Nvidia 7600GS sonic 256mb, Modded-Thermaltake Bach VX with custom fan and air tunnel, 750w thermaltake modular PSU, 37gb Rapter, 3x baracuda 500gig, 1x baracuda 750gig, 22" Asus MW221u w/s, Creative S750 Gigaworks 7.1 surround
2x Laing DDC Ultras with custom tops, 2xBlack Ice GT 360mm Rads with 6x Xilence120mm fans, D-tek fuzion CPU block, EK nb/sb/gpu and both sets of mosfets water blocks, 2x 250ml reservoirss, full 1/2" tubing set up.
Watercooled Xbox360 too......!
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20. May 2007 @ 00:34 |
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you will be in good shape using DDR2 6400. if you set the fsb (cpu freq) to 400mhz [whether it's x8 (3.2ghz) or hopefully x9 (3.6ghz)], you will be able to run the memory at it's rated speed of 800mhz (400 x 2) with the fsb:dram ratio at 1:1 which is ideal. even if you max out at around 3.4ghz, you can either underclock the memory a little keeping it at 1:1 or overclock it to run at 4:5. whichever it performs better at.
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435 |
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20. May 2007 @ 02:26 |
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You picked out great parts. If you got the 1066 version, great. The 1111 version you really cant go wrong. w/ DDR1111 @ stock of 4-4-4-12 you can easily get some fun out of them using a 2:3 (set as DDR800) with this stuff. You should be good for a 2:3 stable up to FSB375 easy on !975X (375x9 = 3.4GHz at DDR1120, 2:3 @ 4-4-4-12 @ 2.4v).
I never said you couldn't use it, just gotta devide it if you want full RAM bandwidth. But at 1:1 with the DDR1111, you got the upper hand in tightening up the timings a bit more and lower volts. But it can hit DDR1200 if you use 2:3 at 400x9 = 3.6GHz. This was teted on a P5W-DH, I never had RAM like this to use on the P5B when I had it a yr bk. I also am testing on my AM2 at the moment and more weird for a nV 590i oC but will come bk when moved to !975X again for more test. I know the P5B can handle 1066 easy as I did it on my old E6300 in 1:1 but over was never tested. I will be soon as I think I can go for DDR1333 @ 2:3 w/ added fan set and 2.5+v at 444x8 = 3.5GHz. Wish me luck.
Hope this helps you to get clockin' with it
Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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20. May 2007 @ 07:03 |
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And all this talk of dodgy P5N-Es, it's my A8N that's going back for an RMA! Interesting, huh?
The one thing that annoys me about Asus motherboards is they say they're 'moving away' from LED-based fault codes and using audible messages. This in an age when computer case manufacturers seem to be 'moving away' from including PC speakers in them. Neither of my cases have one, and both my Asus motherboards require them to tell you any information whatsoever.
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