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11. January 2007 @ 11:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
halo 2 will be cracked for windows vista. So you don't need to get vista if you want to play halo 2. But i will get vista in 2 years.
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11. January 2007 @ 11:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I will get vista when it becomes a bit more established and it's had its first Service Pack.
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Another copy protection scheme going down the tubes. The recent release of software that can be used to decode encrypted HD DVD and Blu-ray movies is the first step toward making the encryption standard used by these next-generation video players obsolete, Princeton University researchers said Monday.

Late last month, a hacker going by the name Muslix64 released software that could be used to decrypt movies that were encoded using the AACS (Advanced Access Content System) digital rights management specification. AACS is supported by Hollywood and video player manufacturers.

Introduced in April 2005, AACS is the copy protection system for HD DVD and Blu-ray movies. It is supported by companies such as Microsoft, Panasonic, Sony, Toshiba, Walt Disney and Warner Bros.

Arms Race
Muslix64's BackupHDDVD software did not crack AACS, but it will make it easier for some technically adept users to decrypt movies, said Alex Halderman, a Princeton computer science student who, along with noted researcher Ed Felten, is calling the software "the first step in the meltdown of AACS."

AACS devices use cryptographic techniques to read numeric codes, called 'keys,' from video discs. These keys are then used to unlock the digital content, making it readable on the player. Muslix64's software does not give users a way to discover these keys, but it does provide a way to descramble content once the key is uncovered.

"This is the framework through which the arms race is going to be fought," Halderman said. "They don't have the ammunition yet, but this is the gun."

All You Need Is The Key
AACS is supposed to work better than the CSS (content scrambling system) encryption system used to protect DVDs from unauthorized copying. CSS was cracked just a few years after its release by three hackers, including a 16-year-old Norwegian named Jon Johansen.

Unlike CSS, however, the AACS system gives movie companies a way of "revoking keys"--changing new movies so that these keys cannot be read on video players that have been cracked.

This system gives Hollywood a way of protecting new releases, but it only works if hackers publicize their work and disclose which player has been cracked. And even with key revocation, nothing can be done to prevent disks whose keys have already been published from being unlocked, Halderman said.

"What the future looks like to us is that some individuals will have cracks that they don't publish and which Hollywood is unable to revoke," he said. "Other people will have cracks that they do publish, and which will work for all old disks."

Trouble For Hollywood?
This scenario may not be so bad for the movie studios, so long as they are able to prevent widespread illegal distribution of their products and keep movies from being widely available while they are still being shown in theatres, said Mike McGuire, an analyst with Gartner Inc. "If they can preserve the existing [theatrical] release windows, then they're probably going to feel reasonably comfortable," he said.

Still, Halderman believes it's only a matter of time before the keys that can be used with BackupHDDVD become public and Hollywood will be faced with unauthorized copying of AACS-protected material. "There's just no doubt that title keys are going to become available at some point in the near future," he said. By, Robert McMillan, IDG News Service
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11. January 2007 @ 14:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by rihgt682:
halo 2 will be cracked for windows vista. So you don't need to get vista if you want to play halo 2. But i will get vista in 2 years.
LOL, I have been playing halo 2 on the xbox for about 3 years now. But its all good.

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11. January 2007 @ 17:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If i want to play Halo or Halo 2, i'll stick with my Xbox, like deezp1 *or my 360 for that matter*.
If i want to play pc games, i'll stick with CS or postal 2.

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12. January 2007 @ 10:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by The_Fiend:
If i want to play Halo or Halo 2, i'll stick with my Xbox, like deezp1 *or my 360 for that matter*.
If i want to play pc games, i'll stick with CS or postal 2.
I couldn't agree more. I do like what M$ is doing with gaming for XP and Vista. The whole "Games for Windows" thing is pretty cool and its pretty neat in Vista. If you don't know about it, here is some info from the horses mouth:

The Games for Windows brand on games means four key things:

1) Quality. Games for Windows branded titles undergo extensive testing, and not just by the publisher. Microsoft also invests in quality checking each title to ensure they meet performance and reliability standards.

2) Compatibility. Games for Windows branded titles work on Windows XP and Windows Vista based PCs, including both 32 and 64 bit editions. Games for Windows titles that support controllers are also compatible with the Microsoft XBOX 360 controller for Windows, including the XBOX 360 Wireless Gaming Receiver for Windows. They even support widescreen resolutions and more.

3) Safety features. You can be confident that any title carrying the Games for Windows brand will support the new parental controls and family settings features in Windows Vista.

4) Easy to Play. Games for Windows branded titles are easy to install, find and remove, especially in Windows Vista. Every Games for Windows title appears in the new Windows Vista Games Explorer (no more hunting around the start menu for that game you just installed). And Games for Windows branded titles all offer some form of ?easy install?, putting you in the game more quickly.


My Take:

1. Whatever, that should be a givin.
2. This is where M$ got it right, Wide screen, 64bit support, Gamepad compatible with 360 and PC controllers. This is great. I have a lot of friends that just dont know PC gaming because they are afraid to use the keyboard. With this, they can play the same games using the 360 controller.
3. Safety. EH, could care less, but I guess its necessary.
4. Easy to install should be a given, but the idea if you want to uninstall something and be sure that it is totally gone is good to know. Now the Game Explorer in Vista is Great I love the Idea of it and I love they way it works. (its a shame I can't use Vista because of iTunes BSOD. Damn you Apple!)

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15. January 2007 @ 16:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have a question for anyone that can answer it. My computer is capable of running vista on all aspects except my ram is only 256 mb is it still capable to run it at least even if its slow?
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15. January 2007 @ 16:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
no, you're asking for a crapload of suffering, there. you either need to put out the cash for more ram (good decision) or say "screw vista" (better decision).


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15. January 2007 @ 17:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok true but whats so bad about vista?
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15. January 2007 @ 17:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
you haven't read this thread, have you?

just because a car is shiny and new doesn't mean it's going to run better than something ten years older. quality should be the determining factor. same applies with software.


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15. January 2007 @ 17:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Could'nt have said it better myself, also, if you are one that likes to backup his movies or music like so many do on AD, with vista you can kiss that goodbye.
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15. January 2007 @ 17:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
might as well sign over your testes when you purchase that license for vista.

the solution is to go linux, but most people are afraid (not like myself) or rely too much on their current setup because of their current situation (like myself). alas, converting is the only way to get the message across to the big boys in their highrise offices.

sigh.


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15. January 2007 @ 18:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well I think it looks good but its a HUGE resource hog on my computer.

-EDIT, BTW, I have a 1.1GHz with 640MB.

Doesnt expecting the unexpected make the unexpected expected and therefore mean youre expecting the expected which was the unexpected until you expected it?
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16. January 2007 @ 03:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
are we gonna do a countdown? well 15 days till it comes out. The thing i hate about vista is there is just way to many versions. When xp only had like 3 vista have like 5.
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16. January 2007 @ 11:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It IS out. Well, im not sure to the general public but it is out and around if you know where to look.

Doesnt expecting the unexpected make the unexpected expected and therefore mean youre expecting the expected which was the unexpected until you expected it?
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16. January 2007 @ 11:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
it may be out, but why would anyone with even a hint more than mediocre computer usage skills want to run it?


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16. January 2007 @ 12:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Auslander:
it may be out, but why would anyone with even a hint more than mediocre computer usage skills want to run it?
Who know. I only like it for the way it looks(which you can get with a theme pack). I had it once but reformated my whole harddrive to redo the partitions and I still havent installed it yet. And that was over a month ago, lol.

Doesnt expecting the unexpected make the unexpected expected and therefore mean youre expecting the expected which was the unexpected until you expected it?
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16. January 2007 @ 12:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ah, laziness. that's why i'm not on linux yet.


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16. January 2007 @ 12:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Its actually a combination of laziness and I dont want to sit and wait a couple hours for it to install... on top of the formating for the drive I want to put it on and files for it...

Doesnt expecting the unexpected make the unexpected expected and therefore mean youre expecting the expected which was the unexpected until you expected it?
"Opinions are immunities to being told were wrong." - Relient K
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16. January 2007 @ 12:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ah, so laziness and impatience.


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16. January 2007 @ 12:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ah, so you understand.

Doesnt expecting the unexpected make the unexpected expected and therefore mean youre expecting the expected which was the unexpected until you expected it?
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16. January 2007 @ 12:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
every now and again, two mortal men will wind up on the same mental wavelength. you and i, we understand that the amazing thing about the art of procrastination is



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16. January 2007 @ 12:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Actually, I think that just about everyone else in high school understands the art of procrastination.

Doesnt expecting the unexpected make the unexpected expected and therefore mean youre expecting the expected which was the unexpected until you expected it?
"Opinions are immunities to being told were wrong." - Relient K
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16. January 2007 @ 12:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sometimes i sit, and i think..."darn, i miss high school."

then i stop rationalizing and realize what it really was like. "wtf was i thinking? screw that!" :-P life is better when you get out.

"screw that.."..i seem to think that a lot. and to tie this back to the topic, i especially feel that way about vista.


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16. January 2007 @ 12:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Vista really seems pointless. Its alot of money for a semi decent version and its still full of bugs at the min.

P.S. high school really isnt that bad for me cuz im home schooled :P
But then again, Im starting college tomarrow(even though im only finishing up the 11 grade now) so im not gonna have much procrastination time I think :(

Doesnt expecting the unexpected make the unexpected expected and therefore mean youre expecting the expected which was the unexpected until you expected it?
"Opinions are immunities to being told were wrong." - Relient K
 
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