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9. May 2006 @ 03:54 |
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crowy,
You sound like an advertisement.
No experienced computer tech would use DFI in a performance application.
You may not like Asus but if you had any profesional experience your tune would change dramatically.
The name Lanparty says it all. It appeals to the pretty board customers. I don't buy for popularity or looks. If the customer wants cheap, he can have cheap. Otherwise Asus is a better product all around. Asus is susceptible to failure but I don't actually see it in practice. With DFI I do see the failures. As with all other brands. I buy MSI for value performance but they still are not my preference.
Asus performance settings will outstrip the capabilities of any processor. Any extension of those settings would be for show only in a Lanparty board.
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9. May 2006 @ 07:04 |
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Crowy
No need to keep at it. We realize you're a DFI fan. Nothing wrong with that. But... they have their different price range boards as well.
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... it is too expensive to deliver an ideal bang for the buck and is lacking for the enthusiast crowd.
You were speaking of Asus, but I don't see it. I don't see DFI's high end offerings as being cheap either, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136009 . Like a good business, they try to meet the needs (and wants) of different market segments, as does Asus and other board manufacturers. With the major players, you can get everything from the inexpensive starter to the high end enthusiast's choice. As The Donald shows, not everyone has been happy with DFI in the past, nor do I suspect Asus and the others to be batting 1000. Asus has proven to be something of a "standard" the others are measured by though. A lot of enthusiasts now ask, at least to themselves, how does a mobo compare to an Asus?
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9. May 2006 @ 07:06 |
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@ theonejrs
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According to the press release for the 500...it has 128k L2 cache and 3D now technology and was the first AMD CPU to run a 100Mhz fsb
This is incorrect. After briefly running 66MHz FSB (like an Intel 233MMX) more recent K6-2 and all K6-3 CPUs ran 100FSB. Hence the term 'super 7' coined by AMD because no Intel socket CPU ever ran @ 100FSB.
Only the very latest K6-2 '3D' @ 500MHz had any L2 cache; it was an abberation and was marketed as a mobile CPU, since AMD had followed Intel and abandoned the Socket interface, moving to Slot for the desktop.
I see you also missed my advice, to not attempt to run 1 x 512MB PC133 - it will not work!
I know this thread is long but you must try to keep up with what others have written,
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9. May 2006 @ 07:23 |
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Baltekmi
The K6 has been tossed about enough for just the RAM. You could have pulled the card in the box to figure what it was. I think Sophocles nailed it some time back. Just buy a couple of PC133 cards and put in it. Check out what The_OGS stated, it may not use a single 512.
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9. May 2006 @ 08:57 |
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Interesting to see AnandTech's current recommendation for system purchase, today's date:
DFI nForce4 SLI Infinity + Athlon 64 X2 3800+ 2x512K 2.0GHz
http://anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.aspx?i=2753
Asus is great - they are like General Motors, something for everyone.
But ABit and DFI see themselves as something even better: high-end top-quality stuff for enthusiasts, gamers and overclockers.
So for people to say 'DFI is okay but they're no Asus', well that's just fine with DFI...
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9. May 2006 @ 09:32 |
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Hey, Just i thought i check-in in one of the best threads on AD!!
Have any of you heard of what crucial announced as the release of the Fully Buffered DDR2 up to 4GB per module from Crucial
Here is where I read the article...
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=68290
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9. May 2006 @ 09:46 |
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The_OGS
Since the Conroe "vapor" CPU results from Anandtech, I take a lot of what I see there with a grain of salt. They sometimes appear as much an ad board as a place for info. Like most sites there's various contributors and they're not always unbiased. I noticed on the AMD platform they had an EPoX as an alternative choice. Then for the Intel platforms they suggested the ASUS mobos with Biostar and Aopen as alternatives.
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9. May 2006 @ 10:28 |
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Sure - Asus is great! That 945P P5LD2 Deluxe is a good Socket775 mobo. I have no knowledge of EPoX though... You?
Hey AnandTech is okay, they simply reported on Intel's demo (I mean don't shoot the messenger, y'know?)
But I'm sure they have no bias, pro or anti Intel. Which do you suspect?
Anand loves his AMD...
Note: Pentium D930 are on for only $259 bucks now. Canadian Retail! But you still need aluminum case and giant PS though, LoL
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9. May 2006 @ 11:37 |
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My Benq dw1640 lasted a grand total of 3 days!!! so was promptly returned for a refund.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one!
Crowy: Now look at the Asus website, no doubt they'll be telling us the same thing. DFI aren't going to point out their disadvantages. I know from what I've seen all DFI boards are way too expensive for my purposes, yet not even an A8N-SLi Premium is.
Brobear: Asus may be like GM, but I wouldn't mind betting Asus boards would go without fault even longer than cars!
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9. May 2006 @ 11:41 |
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AMD bleep succcckkkkss
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9. May 2006 @ 11:42 |
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Seems you get around a bit, don't waste our time.
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9. May 2006 @ 12:43 |
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The_OGS
Anandtech are product "whores," the best according to them depends on who's paying them the most for their services. They know what they're doing but they provide product comparisons that are less than comprehensive. DFI Landparty boards are great if you're strictly into gaming because they are great performance boards. They are also buggy as hell and not for the novice and they lack the features and stability of Asus boards. I almost went with a DFI board, but in the end decided I would rather have the features of the Asus board which also has pretty good performance. If you're strictly a gamer and you're an experienced PC builder then go for the DFI Landparty but if you want more features, greater stability, and less hassle setting things up then the Asus is your board.
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9. May 2006 @ 12:43 |
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9. May 2006 @ 13:01 |
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Lol......I think someone has alot of time on thier hands and just wants to get some attention...Guh......
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9. May 2006 @ 13:13 |
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Yep, tragic. Is that the best you could manage Sophocles? It sounds awfully Junior Member, as in n00b junior member, not well respected junior member. I've been told off for making that poor judgement before. Agree about Asus though.
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9. May 2006 @ 13:18 |
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Just a side note that wasn't to Sopholcoles...LOL
It was to the guy that said AMD sucks
Just want to clear that up...As i don't explain things very well..LOL
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9. May 2006 @ 13:20 |
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Lol I understood what you meant so no harm done. If I can understand it, anyone can.
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9. May 2006 @ 13:36 |
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The dipwad has been banned.
My killer sig came courtesy of bb "El Jefe" mayo.
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9. May 2006 @ 13:38 |
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Nice one, ethnical cleansing at its best.
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9. May 2006 @ 15:54 |
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Is that the best you could manage Sophocles?
I'm sorry that you found my response disappointing, but I think that I covered it without getting verbose.
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It sounds awfully Junior Member, as in n00b junior member, not well respected junior member.
Now was that nice?
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9. May 2006 @ 17:54 |
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joshjosj,
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AMD bleep succcckkkkss
Underneath your nick, it says permanently banned. I sincerely hope this is true as we prefer contributers not jackasses!
crowy, You're not going to convert anyone to DFI so give it a rest, will you! Tell DFI to give you a raise, you've earned it. No one said that it was a bad motherboard but it's not up to the standards of most of the members of this forum!
The_OGS,
I just repeated what the press release said. On the 512 I assumed that baltekmi had some memory in the Gateway so he should have the requisit 2 slots full. There are other options for different memory configurations as well. a couple of 256s would do quite nicely. Prices are decent as well. Gateway says it will work in conjunction with any other like speed memory but it will only report 512. They did caution that if you put a 100Mhz stick in, all of the memory will run at 100.
Happy Computering,
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9. May 2006 @ 22:09 |
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That's the usual case, you put in a stick of slower RAM and the system adjusts to the slowest.
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10. May 2006 @ 00:44 |
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Wow, this thread has gotten interesting. Glad to see the idiocy isn't relegated to the console forums.
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if you want more features, greater stability, and less hassle setting things up then the Asus is your board.
Sounds pretty good to me. That's high praise from you Sophocles, I definitely am a fan of high quality, low hassle products. Asus sounds better all the time. What kind of socket size should I be looking for on an asus board with high end performance as the main prerequisite?
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10. May 2006 @ 00:56 |
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Tokijin , the 939 socket is what you want to go with .the asus board in my sig is top notch ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe Socket 939 newegg is your best bet
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10. May 2006 @ 01:41 |
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Yeah, two sticks of 400 with one of 333 and you get three of 333, I saw that. It too surprises me that idiocy came to this forum, but he's gone now so no harm done, really!
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