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HOW to read your XBOX's EEPROM and GET the HDD KEY WITHOUT removing the chip Or Modding the XBOX
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dickalan
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9. February 2009 @ 18:12 |
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I'm starting a new thread about this since i feel it is buried way to far here. :)
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cp69
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23. March 2009 @ 19:10 |
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Hi, after reading your tutorial tho I never built the eeprom reader i bought one, but after a succesful read of the eeprom my xbox now restarts 3 times and beeps and whines and the led's flash green and red. I read several tutorials and in one it said you earth the screw above the chip and also just clip it to the metal casing. I think I may have wiped the bios chip during trying to get a read, is this the reason why the xbox starts 3 times and the screen is just black? Or have i missed adding the bios file on the cd as I'm at a loss to know why this is happening, but I bet I've fragged it. If anyone can answer this I would be most grateful, thanks.
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dickalan
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24. March 2009 @ 14:44 |
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sorry dude i actually never got mine to work you'll have to ask someone else.
Did you read it with batteries and not the xbox's power?
I think thats what i need to do but don't know how...
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varnull
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24. March 2009 @ 16:11 |
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just READ the guide carefully.. it's ALL explained... everything.. over and over and over again. Connect 2 aa batteries to the points marked +v and gnd in the diagram.
It isn't possible to wipe the bios by reading the eeprom... dunno where you got that idea from. The box will often frag with the reader connected.. component tolerances. You will not be able to get a read with the box fragging.. because the psu is jumping around. You can take the eeprom off the board.. read it or even flash another with the same info you dumped if you read between the lines of the guide.. It's not a n00bs guide.. some comprehension skills are needed.
I don't know why this guide never got stickied.. when there must be 20 duplicate softmod and copying games guides stickied... the vagaries of afterdawn.. wonder whose bits you have to suck to get a guide as good as this stickied?.. anybody fancy doing some brown nosing ..
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dickalan
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24. March 2009 @ 17:56 |
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I'm not seeing the battery explanation in the tut anywhere...
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24. March 2009 @ 18:35 |
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This thread isn't noob proof, this is abit complicated. But it isn't hard to understand at all, and if u read a little u would of found some info. I think this thread should be sticked too.
Originally posted by Unicron1:
First you can connect your readers SCL and SDA and GND wires to the spots I list above or in the following pictures, and connect your power supply (3.3V or 5V) to pin 8 of the EEPROM or the spot listed on LPC picture above.
And like 3 pages from the end.
Originally posted by vcbc:
When power is connected the xbox power button lights up yellow. the - side of the 3 - 5v power supply goes any ground point. The power supply + goes to pin 8. It states that in the tut. Also I borrowed this picture from the tutorial.
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cp69
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25. March 2009 @ 09:22 |
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Thanks for replying guys, much appreciated. I only had main power as I didn't think I needed batteries as board wasn't dead. Thanks for putting up the diagram which really helps if I have a dead board at some stage...I just need to get my board working if indeed it's not actually dead, if anyone else happens to read and this my previous post while I'm searching these forums please let me know, cheers.
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cp69
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25. March 2009 @ 09:34 |
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I should say I meant the board isn't dead in the sense that it doesn't work it does, it just won't boot up etc.
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25. March 2009 @ 10:27 |
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it's easiest to read the eeprom using the battery method. So just disconnect your power supply from the board and read the eeprom using this method. It should work the very first time you try to read it.
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cp69
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25. March 2009 @ 11:48 |
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I tried on my pc with blutac the first time but no joy, thinking it was the pc, the port or whatever not working as it said not responding. Tried on my laptop but this time I held the pins in place and got a read, but during this time reading other tutorials which I should have avoided as it said to clip the ground wire to the screw above the chip near to where you put the pins, but it always slipped, this was getting a charge as I noticed arcing or small sparks. Obviously you learn when you make mistakes, so now, it doesn't boot properly. I did everything round the wrong way. I should have attached pins, ground wire, then the serial port then clicked to get a read, but I couldn't using blutac. I just didn't set the pins and blutac up right. After reading elsewhere I think I've damaged the chip, as I can't see any bad traces on the board. Could I add a modchip on the board and just fix it that way?
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25. March 2009 @ 13:00 |
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Either a modchip or a new board will fix your problems. Sometimes you can get a board from the net pretty cheap.
Either way good luck
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cp69
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25. March 2009 @ 14:52 |
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Cheers, thanks alot, I've been looking around wandering what to do, thanks for your help guys..
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bookie988
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19. May 2009 @ 14:49 |
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Originally posted by vcbc:
This thread isn't noob proof, this is abit complicated. But it isn't hard to understand at all, and if u read a little u would of found some info. I think this thread should be sticked too.
Originally posted by Unicron1:
First you can connect your readers SCL and SDA and GND wires to the spots I list above or in the following pictures, and connect your power supply (3.3V or 5V) to pin 8 of the EEPROM or the spot listed on LPC picture above.
And like 3 pages from the end.
Originally posted by vcbc:
When power is connected the xbox power button lights up yellow. the - side of the 3 - 5v power supply goes any ground point. The power supply + goes to pin 8. It states that in the tut. Also I borrowed this picture from the tutorial.
ok this might be another stupid question, but am i supposed to connect all the colored lines in the picture? the purple, yellow, blue etc. AND connect SDA and SCL + batteries to read the eeprom?
tried it just connecting SDA and ACL to pin 5 and 6 and the batteries to pin 4 as it says in the picture, but i got a Bus error from ponyprog...
thanx
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SailorCM
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25. July 2009 @ 13:10 |
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Hi - I have a XBOX v1.1 .. i'm not sure, due to the picture with D0 is labled with 1.6, but do i have to solder these points at my 1.1 too or is it just the 3 points nesr LPC-DEBUG?
If it is, does anyone know why my XB starts with an orange flashing ring if the circuit is connected to the mobo?
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25. July 2009 @ 13:17 |
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Mine was orange too and it reads it sucessfully. U connect it to the chip or points on the LPG debug.
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Guppy1
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25. July 2009 @ 13:22 |
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Originally posted by SailorCM:
Hi - I have a XBOX v1.1 .. i'm not sure, due to the picture with D0 is labled with 1.6, but do i have to solder these points at my 1.1 too or is it just the 3 points nesr LPC-DEBUG?
If it is, does anyone know why my XB starts with an orange flashing ring if the circuit is connected to the mobo?
If you are referring to the "picture" directly above your post, then just ignore it. As the person stated, it is a "borrowed" picture. It was originally someone explaining something else and this person posted it and added the batteries, all the lines and stuff just makes it so confusing it should have been deleted by a moderator.
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Guppy1
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25. July 2009 @ 13:26 |
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HOW TO BUILD AN EEPROM READER
I have a real nice "easy to understand" drawing of how to build one on a sheet of paper, so just go to llama.com and look at there drawing, it is pretty straight forward as well.
http://llamma.com/xbox/Repairs/Reading_Xbox_Hdd_key.htm
As far as parts list, I use:
1 ethernet wall mount box
1 9pin female D-sub connector and hood ($1 mouser electronics)
2 silicon zener diodes part# 1N4733A 5.1V/1W (eBay 25 diodes for $5)
2 3.9K ohm resistors
5 feet of cat5 cable
1 cat5 connector (plugs into one end of my ethernet box)
1 box of shrink tubing (think 1/8")
As with everything you can buy online in bulk for alot cheaper than you can buy at your local radioshack. I always bought enough components to build 50 eeprom readers at a time.
CONNECT EEPROM READER TO XBOX
"Solderless" Method
? Disconnect power cord from xbox.
? Open case and remove HDD and DVD
? http://www.xbox-scene.com/articles/open1.php
? Locate your LPC Pin Header.
? Identify The Two Holes (Blue and Orange) that we are going to use. ? Take a look at the sketch at the bottom of this tutorial, notice hole #16 is closest to the ground screw.
? I just stick the Orange and Blue wires into the appropriate holes, don?t go too deep or you might short out against the bottom of the case.
? Tape the white cable to the side of the xbox case, this will help keep things from moving while you are reading the eeprom data.
? BLUE WIRE ? Stab the eeprom reader?s Blue wire to SDA Pin/hole 14
? ORANGE WIRE ? Stab the eeprom reader?s Orange wire to SCL Pin/hole 13
? GREEN WIRE ? Connect the eeprom reader?s Green wire to Xbox ground (I just tuck mine under the Torx screw (Green cirlcle) and tighten the screw)
? Plug DB9 connector into your pc?s serial port.
RUN PONY PROG
? Xbox powered off
? Install and launch PonyProg
? SETUP ? Select options, setup and make sure to select serial, SI Prog API, then select your com port. After this is done hit Probe, you should immediately get a window that says Test OK, if not double check the setup parameters (probably picked the wrong com port)
? CALIBRATE - Select Options, calibration, yes
? Power on Xbox (it may reboot itself a couple times, so wait till all that is finished)
? READ EEPROM ? Select Device, Read. You should get a bunch of data on your screen , if not check all connections and try again.
? SAVEAS ? Select File, Save as, Save in (put it somewhere that you remember) filename (lets call it EEPROM) and Save as type (.bin)
? Turn off xbox (if it doesn?t turn off, then unplug it)
? Save your EEPROM.bin to a floppy or cd for archive purposes.
? Make a folder and put LiveInfo_Beta_3 in it and Move a copy of your EEPROM.BIN file into this directory.
? Launch Live_Info, Select LOAD EEPROM (should be in the Live_Info directory) and hit open.
? There is a line that says Unique HDD Key ? this is your HardDrive Key/Password.
? You can now remove the wires from the lpc header.
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SailorCM
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25. July 2009 @ 13:53 |
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Originally posted by Guppy1:
Originally posted by SailorCM:
Hi - I have a XBOX v1.1 .. i'm not sure, due to the picture with D0 is labled with 1.6, but do i have to solder these points at my 1.1 too or is it just the 3 points nesr LPC-DEBUG?
If it is, does anyone know why my XB starts with an orange flashing ring if the circuit is connected to the mobo?
If you are referring to the "picture" directly above your post, then just ignore it. As the person stated, it is a "borrowed" picture. It was originally someone explaining something else and this person posted it and added the batteries, all the lines and stuff just makes it so confusing it should have been deleted by a moderator.
currently having this "construction":
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SailorCM
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25. July 2009 @ 16:20 |
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ahh... i found it... GND should not be connected to PIN15
after i put GND to the case of the XB, it starts... but if i try to read i only get "Device not responding"
Nintendo GB, GBC, GBA, NES, SNES, N64, GC, Wii
SEGA MS2, GG, MD2 / Sony PSone
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davinixon
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16. August 2009 @ 11:31 |
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alrite bud im a noob to the site and i was wondering if u could help me i have an xbox i want to mod but i dont have the original hdd is it possible to use the eeprom reader to get the key and create a new hdd ive read lots of posts on this site but im not to sure what i need to do your help would be much appreciated m8 thanks
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varnull
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18. August 2009 @ 01:57 |
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To answer your question.. yes ..
and to solve the other "I cant bloody read and understand" people with power up frags and no read .. USE THE EXTERNAL BATTERIES... how many times do I have to tell you?????
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t7013tjr
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20. September 2009 @ 21:19 |
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Hi all,
I have been trying to get a reading on my eeprom chip for two days. The xbox is version 1.0 and does power up. I even was able to use the exploits to get access to the hard drive briefly and copy over to my PC all the files for making a boot disk in xboxhdm. I did hit MS backup in the softmod menu but I cannot find the eeprom.bin file anywhere. The hard drive has been mechanically trashed for quite some time and only occasionally spins up (head makes a ker-chunk, ker-chunk noise otherwise). I have not been able to reaccess the hard drive for a week to try and get the eeprom backup again. I resorted to attempting to get the eeprom dump from the chip. I believe I have the reader all wired correctly. Not sure I should say I am a senior in electrical engineering cause if I missed something really noob Im gonna be embarrassed. I hook the little beast to to the serial port pick the port and hit probe and it fails. I have built it once on a perfboard and once on the breadboard. Hooking it to the LPC pads results in error 14 from Pony (something about hardware not connected I think.) I dont really have the use of equipment that I would trust for soldering to the chip. I may look into some tiny plunger clip test leads if I have to but I don't have access to them right now. I attach photos of my breadboard version below. The wire in the top leading off to the right is the ground wire, the middle wire is SDA, the lower wire is SCL. The wires leading in from the left at top are pin 5 of serial, second from top leading to connect at the resistor/diode node is from pin 8, the next lower is pin 4 and the bottom comes from pin 6 and 7. The resistors are 4.7k and the diodes are 1N47 5.1V Zeners. Any help would be fabulous.
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t7013tjr
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22. September 2009 @ 08:28 |
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Hi all,
Since my previous post I did identify a mistake. I thought I had read correctly in device manager which com port to select in Pony. However, I was incorrect. I now have the correct com port and the error 14 in Pony has stopped. Now Pony either returns a Bus busy error 11 or it returns 'Device not responding'. The error 11 occurs either when power to the xbox is off or when i hit a read right after powering the xbox up. The 'Device not responding' error occurs each time a read is attempted at all other times including when the xbox is sitting at the error screen. I also have the issue that when the SDL & SDA wires are connected to the LPC pad or the chip I get the flashing orange ring and blank video screen. If the reader wires are connected to LPC at startup I get the 3 start up shut downs and then it finally stays on but with a blank screen. I have tried reading the chip with an external DC power generator set to 4V but not with batteries. Any help appreciated.
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22. September 2009 @ 08:48 |
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When you use the xbox power supply with the eeprom reader it will make the xbox frag. You will get the 3 power ups and it will stay on the 3rd time. After the 3rd time you can hit the read button and it should pull the info from the eeprom.
I'm sure it was mentioned here before. Just connect the eeprom reader, let it power up and restart 3 times then read.
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onehanded
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22. September 2009 @ 14:08 |
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Hi everyone
Right I have a problem with when the xbox starts up ,the flubber screen comes on for a split second then the xbox goes off
I had read a previous xbox that was working fine and then attempted to write the eeprom from that xbox to the new one to save on burning linux disks everywhere.
does anyone know why this happened?
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