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HOW to read your XBOX's EEPROM and GET the HDD KEY WITHOUT removing the chip Or Modding the XBOX
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dan72588
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1. October 2007 @ 14:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Guppy1:
Originally posted by dan72588:
lol, that's weird, modding an xbox is somewhat easy, because i just have to solder D0 point and the chip on pin header and lpc pins, and what happens if i mess up the resistor, get the wrong one, or solder horribly when building eeprom tool? And i don't really understand the drawing.....cuz i'm lame like that, I mean the xbox modchip i got, had some pics with dots where it needed to be soldered, but i've never dealt with a pc circuit board or w/e he's talking about. Put it this, I'm a complete noob at the stuff he's talking about, it blows my mind! If anyone knows where i can get one please tell me....I checked ebay....nothing

THANKS a whole bunch! Got my eeprom and fixed 4 xboxes with it!!!! The best item ever!!
It is available on craigslist

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luapidor
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5. October 2007 @ 13:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for making the guide but I'm having some trouble with a 1.6 XBOX. I can't figure out where to exactly solder. I've made the reader and I've put jumper wires from the bios to the designated places as seen in the picture. But I'm not sure If I'm supposed to do this. Also I'm not sure where to hook up the reader to the whole circuit. Could someone post a picture of this done right with a 1.6 Xbox or could someone give any help at all?
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7. October 2007 @ 02:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you read the whole thread I believe it was covered.

Guppy1
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10. November 2007 @ 04:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It is available on Craigslist

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10. November 2007 @ 10:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
eBay


veemann
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24. November 2007 @ 21:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
How about a link or keyword search? I find nothing currently.

Thanks,

V

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24. November 2007 @ 22:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Simply type 'xbox eeprom' into the eBay search...


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Guppy1
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24. November 2007 @ 22:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Available on Craigslist $30 shipped

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varnull
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24. November 2007 @ 23:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
$30 for something that you can build for around $5

what a bunch of scammers. :-(

I consider this linking to commercial products as spam, when the guide clearly shows exactly how to make one for next to nothing.

c'mon mods.. spamming commercial products is banned everywhere else on the site.. why is it allowed to run riot on this thread??
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24. November 2007 @ 23:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I certainly did but it wasn't ebay AU so my search yielded 0 results. Thanks for the link.

V

Originally posted by chunkhead:
Simply type 'xbox eeprom' into the eBay search...


http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...&ih=001
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24. November 2007 @ 23:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for policing but I requested the info. I don't think that would be considered spamming.

V

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$30 for something that you can build for around $5

what a bunch of scammers. :-(

I consider this linking to commercial products as spam, when the guide clearly shows exactly how to make one for next to nothing.

c'mon mods.. spamming commercial products is banned everywhere else on the site.. why is it allowed to run riot on this thread??
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25. November 2007 @ 06:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I DO NOT spam commercial products.

I clearly show how to build the reader in my tutorials, including pics of the one I build!

I do however offer these on eBay for people who are unable to build one themselves.

Let's be honest Varnull, there ARE some people who just aren't as technical mind as myself or you. They don't know how to solder, read technical drawings, etc.

I provide the pre-built units solely for those who can't make the unit themselves. Obviously there are a lot of these folk...

@ The original poster of the Craigslist item

I have no issues with you selling similar items, however I take HUGE offense to you copying my eBay advertisement for your own gain. If you sell something, make it original, don't just hide behind the work of others! On another note, you better not be peddling a modified copy of my tutorials which accompany the readers too! They are my time and effort and every bit my property!!!

My units are built with quality parts and quality workmanship. Simply read my eBay feedback.


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25. November 2007 @ 11:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
guppy & anyone else who tries to spam AD with craiglist links will be booted promptly.

Chunkhead, same goes fella...we can't help you make money via ebay.

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25. November 2007 @ 19:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Totally understood and agreed with!

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8. December 2007 @ 20:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i just built a eeprom reader and iam ready to solder it onto my xbox v1.6 motherboard.this is the only picture i can find to show how to read the eeprom. in this picture it shows multiple connections when i thought it was only supposed to be the sda to 5 scl to 6 and ground to ground?i just dont know what connection is the right one.any help would be great.


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8. December 2007 @ 20:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Welcome to the club!
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8. December 2007 @ 20:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
lol thanks.
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8. December 2007 @ 22:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well i finally figured it out and it only took me 4 hours.lol.i used this diagram to build my reader,which was kinda hard building since i havent built anything like that in about 5 years.i updated the diagram to better show where to solder onto the chip.all the other ones were hard to understand,and didnt give a lot of info on how to set it up.



then once that was done i followed the guide here for setting up the software:
[url=http://www.llamma.com/xbox/Repairs/Reading_Xbox_Hdd_key.htm][/url]

i then connected it to my serial port of my computer,turned it on and got a xbox that would flash an orange light then turn off and on.so i tried a couple things,and finally got it too work.make sure the serial cable is unplugged when u do it.i had the software ready to go,started the xbox,plugged in the cable,then dumped the flash.(as quick as you can)that was the first time i successfully got my first read of the eeprom.after that just follow the rest of that guide to dump the hd key,and retrieve the rest of the info.i hope this helps alot more people out.

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8. December 2007 @ 22:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well i finally figured it out and it only took me 4 hours.lol.i used this diagram to build my reader,which was kinda hard building since i havent built anything like that in about 5 years.i updated the diagram to better show where to solder onto the chip.all the other ones were hard to understand,and didnt give a lot of info on how to set it up.



then once that was done i followed the guide here for setting up the software:
[url=http://www.llamma.com/xbox/Repairs/Reading_Xbox_Hdd_key.htm][/url]

i then connected it to my serial port of my computer,turned it on and got a xbox that would flash an orange light then turn off and on.so i tried a couple things,and finally got it too work.make sure the serial cable is unplugged when u do it.i had the software ready to go,started the xbox,plugged in the cable,then dumped the flash.(as quick as you can)that was the first time i successfully got my first read of the eeprom.after that just follow the rest of that guide to dump the hd key,and retrieve the rest of the info.i hope this helps alot more people out.


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obcd007
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18. December 2007 @ 04:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi,

the pictures are great and helpfull. I would like to add the information that the SCL and SDA points are also available on the LPC holes. So, there is no need to start soldering wires to the pins of the chip directly. You can find SCL on pin 13 of the LPC and SDA on pin 14.

I am unsure if you can still get the signals on the LPC with a 1.5 and a 1.6 motherboard. I do know these mobo's react different upon a frag. After a couple of retries, a 1.6 turns off the power. The previous models left the power on to the circuits. (the blower keeps rotating.)

The pictures show all the wires that are needed to rebuild a 1.6 mobo LPC. Some points are no longer connected to the LPC holes. You need to reconnect them if you wan't to install a modchip. There is no need to do this for the eeprom reader. As the author stated, he borrowed the picture....

regards.
devall
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23. December 2007 @ 13:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have a question about the EEPROM READER. If your xbox motherboard is not dead, do I use this design,

No matter what XBOX you have the EEPROM is the same design Pins 1,2,3,4 will always be GND and 5,6,7,8 will be 5 = SDA, 6 = SCL, 7 = WDC (We don?t Care), 8 = 3.3V or 5V



Nathaniel Devall
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23. December 2007 @ 17:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes.. regardless of xbox version the i2c eeprom pinouts are the same.

We have found it is more reliable to always externally power the device rather than relying on the xbox psu.


BTW.. Chunks.. I wasn't having a go at you.. Your guide and ready built reader are fairly priced.. it's the craigslist people I don't like.. profiteers IMHO. Ask loco.. because we had a chat about it. I remember it came down to "rules is rules.. allow one and they will all be at it".. He probably still has a copy of the PM I sent him about it. ;)

Anyway..back to the topic.. I still prefer pulling the bug off the board and sticking it on an old stick of ram and using the i2c modules already present in linux to get the data...
http://www.psikic.com/xbox/eepromsdram.php
just my way because the windows software doesn't work on a linux system.
obcd007
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26. December 2007 @ 08:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi,

I don't really follow. You desolder the eeprom chip and solder it to a ram stick because linux can't use the reader software. After that, you use the liveinfo program.. which is a windows program...to calculate the hdd password.

In my opinion, connecting the eeprom reader to the LPC bus is still the easiest method with the easiest soldering practice.

And why would the xbox supply be less reliable than an external supply? You just need to wait until the frag has passed. On a 1.6, you might connect the SCL and SDA after the xbox started. It will otherwise power off after a frag.

regards.

regards.
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26. December 2007 @ 12:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The situation on the psu and frag all depends on what the actual fault is.

Some power down, or the rails never establish properly.

there is a small legal issue as well.. I (as a fully qualified electronics enginer) can't really go advising unqualified people to go poking around in raw mains powered equipment. The first time you get a clout from an exposed live part on a delta psu may be your last. ;)

Who said anything about using the windows version of live-config.. buggy app anyway.. Unicron used it because it was available.. and often the reason people need to recover corrupted eeproms. it's not needed with i2c read (and easy enough to compile a linux version from the available source code anyway)
All I am after are the raw numbers to hex-edit into a raw empty eeprom image..
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obcd007
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27. December 2007 @ 02:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, you made your point.

In my opinion, the best advice for unqualified people is to stay out of their xbox. I have seen some soldering work that made my hair rise.

I find the liveinfo program for pc a good tool to analyse the eeprom contents. I agree that xboxhdm also does the job fine. You need the LiveInfo Beta 3 version for the 1.6 eeprom model.

I find it a bit scary that people power some circuits with 5V that are running in the original design on 3V3. Maybe some xbox models have the eeprom connected to the 5V rail.

So, in my opinion, the zeners should better be 3V3 types as well. That doesn't take away the fact that Unicron did a great discovery with this easy method to read the xbox eeprom.

regards.
 
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