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24. June 2009 @ 15:16 |
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I tend to use the PS3 pad on anything other then FPS's.
Estuansis you have a stupidly fast CPU... You might be running out of video RAM although I'm not Sam so that's not a definite reason more of an inkling.
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24. June 2009 @ 18:25 |
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Well if I were running out of video RAM I think the FPS would go DOWN. But I turn on multiple levels of AA and the FPS doesn't even stutter. I think with 16x I'm only losing maybe 5FPS overall. And I can SEE that AA is on.
If you play the game you'll notice the HUGE amounts of vehicles, people, enemies and stuff. I think that would be a LOT of edges for AA to hit and AA would be a killer in this game. But it seems more CPU dependent. Because I can turn the game down, turn it up, AA, AF, whatever. It doesn't change my performance by more than 10FPS average from lowest to highest possible. That tells me CPU bottleneck.
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A quick google search shows this as well. A lot of people aren't seeing much of a performance difference between video cards. The game seems processor bound.
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24. June 2009 @ 21:22 |
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CPU bottleneck is quite likely. It's not unheard of with console ports (ahem, GTA4)
I'm also eager to try Prototype, seems like a really cool title.
Video RAM is a major factor for AA, AA is the #1 cause of running out of memory. Many cards have taken up to 5000% performance hits due to memory issues, simply from changing AA from 4x to 8x.
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24. June 2009 @ 21:32 |
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Well the 9800GTX can play it at 1680 x 1050 with 8xAA smooth as butter. Average maybe 40FPS. Low of 30. Just fine for a platformer-ish beat-em-up game. The Crossfire build does maybe 75 with a low of about 60. And it does not vary. Any setting on both systems and they're both the same distance apart every time. Apparently it's multi-threaded fairly well??? Makes sense to me. But the 9800GTX does kick the bucket at 1920 x 1200 w/ 8xAA. So there must be limits to it.
I must admit that Prototype is pretty damn awesome. The graphics are alright considering how the engine has to work. Hundreds of detailed models running around at any given time. Lots of wicked powers and explicit violence. Driving an APC down the sidewalk with a bloody froth spraying from the treads. Whipping people at each other, or at walls, lol. Stealing identities, in fact, anyone's identity. Try it Sam!
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24. June 2009 @ 22:20 |
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Most people say that inFamous is better and it seems average scores from review sites relect that, and, whilst i thought that inFamous seemed fine from the demo, it didn't make me think *wow*, so i don't hold out much hope for Prototype considering it's the same genre but i still might have to try it out to see what the fuss is :P
Also, speaking of running out of video RAM - i play Mirror's Edge at max settings with 8xAA perfectly fine; probably at an average of 45-50 FPS, but when i set it to 16xAA it runs at practically the same framerate until something happens on screen that's really 'busy' - like lots of windows smashing - and the frame rate literally plummets to about 5, and it doesn't go up again for a couple of minutes after the action has passed. Never seen it before but at a guess i'd say it was probably running out of RAM... Good job i don't really see a difference between 8x and 16x ;)
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24. June 2009 @ 23:20 |
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I DO see a difference. Maybe not as big as 4x to 8x, but it's still a big difference. 16x AA is amazing.
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25. June 2009 @ 08:37 |
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Shockz do you have PHYSX enabled? if so that's probably hogging a fair chunk of resources for not much gain.
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25. June 2009 @ 09:02 |
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Yeah, I do, but I'd rather have PhysX and 8xAA than no PhysX and 16xAA :P
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25. June 2009 @ 09:06 |
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There's about 4 places where PHYSX is actually used!
I'm a tad bitter because my second card for PHYSX never worked at all...
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25. June 2009 @ 12:52 |
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Hmm it works more then it used to but still doesn't work!--PHYSX option is missing from Nvidia control panel even though it shows up under system information and clicking PHYSX properties opens control panel at manage 3D options. GRRR NOT HAPPY!
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25. June 2009 @ 15:35 |
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PhysX is stil buggy with radeon cards, especially with win7 I believe. I think someone managed to pull it off, but I'm not sure how.
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25. June 2009 @ 15:58 |
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I think you have to do a clean driver install so the Nvidia card is your primary video adapter. Then maybe you can turn on PhysX and run the game through the HD4850? I'm not sure as I've never tried. I DO have an 8600GTS sitting here though, so maybe I'll try a little experimenting on a clean partition...
Haha funny stuff at work today. Guy brought in a PC saying it didn't detect his hard drive. The drive was completely GONE with the logic board still hanging there attached to the molex and PATA cables. I was dumbstruck as to how the drive got wrenched out so violently and he never knew. Needless to say he wasn't too happy when I showed him the problem. You've never seen anyone so miffed about a 40GB Quantam Fireball...
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26. June 2009 @ 05:45 |
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Some power consumption figures I've worked out from the Bit-tech benchmark.
This is a.c. draw, so multiply by the PSU efficiency at this input to determine impact on PSU output requirements (e.g. multiply by 0.85 if the PSU is 85% efficient)
GTX260: 45W idle, 145W load, 155W peak
GTX280: 55W idle, 190W load, 205W peak
GTX285: 45-50W idle, 180-190W load, 210-215W peak
HD4870: 95W idle, 170W load, 180W peak (185W peak 1GB)
GTX295: 80W idle, 260W load, 285W peak
GTX260 SLI: 90W idle, 300W load, 325W peak
HD4870X2: 110W idle, 300W load, 325W peak
HD4870CF: 170W idle, 320W load, 350W peak
GTX280 SLI: 100W idle, 375W load, 405W peak
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26. June 2009 @ 08:16 |
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I've given up again its all done in such a way as if Nvidia don't want you to do it but aren't going to fully stop you.
WOW Need For Speed: Underground with the resolution fiddled to 1440x900, Catalyst maxed and the game settings maxed looks better then the Prostreet demo on PS3. I'm so happy! I'm able to play a legend in HD!!!
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26. June 2009 @ 08:21 |
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Yeah, I've got to say it still looks pretty good :) Very good for a game developed 7 years ago. Shame you can't force AA - it would be the icing on the cake.
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26. June 2009 @ 09:17 |
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Oh I didn't think AA seemed to be doing much...
I really like the way you can just play through race after race meaning there's nothing to get sidetracked messing about with. Not like the games of today where you mess about driving to events then see a big jump that looks like fun then get chased by police then do a different event that gets you nowhere in your career then your even further away from the event you were going to in the first place and have wasted about 3 hours.
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26. June 2009 @ 10:59 |
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I know what you mean :) I got Underground on PS2 when it came out (it was my first PS2 game!), will always have fond memories :P The newer NFS games don't deserve the sales they get each year, the series has gone downhill so much...
And yeah, it's one of the few games that doesn't support AA full stop.
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26. June 2009 @ 11:23 |
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It must have been like Crysis at launch being before PCI-E and 90nm CPU's (DDR2 had only just been launched). The minimum spec is a Radeon 7500! we've gone all the way through the number system twice since then.
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26. June 2009 @ 12:03 |
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Just started playing Prototype and it's actually not half bad, graphics are a little better than I expected and framerate is very impressive considering the scale, feels around a steady 40 to 50 though I haven't actually measured it yet. Going to have to install Underground again later though :)
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26. June 2009 @ 13:37 |
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my sister told me about it and it has now replaced assasins creed as her 'STABBY STABBY' game (shes not completely nuts (once you get to know her)).
I'm still torn whether or not to cancel FUEL for it because on the one hand I'm fed up of WAITING!! on the other its codies and come on:
They made the first video game I ever properly played on. (Micro Machines).
They made my first ever Video game (TOCA Touring Car Racing).
They made the first game I actually did some of (Colin McRae).
They made the first (and for a long time only) PS2 game I actually completed (TOCA Race Driver)
They made my first proper (as in that only ran on decent hardware) PC game (Race Driver: GRID)
They made my second proper PC game (Colin McRae: DiRT)
They made the only DS game I've ever found remotely enjoyable (Race Driver: Create and Race
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26. June 2009 @ 14:53 |
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Haha, I don't like any racing games on the DS :P
But yes, I had the original TOCA Race Driver on PS2 and that was another of my favourite racing games :) And I literally <3 Colin McRae Rally 2.0 :D But I'm not going to get FUEL because it's only got mediocre reviews and I've seen people on the official forums saying they ruined it... Though I am still holding out for DiRT 2 - I'm not happy with the direction they've taken the McRae games but I think it should still be fun.
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26. June 2009 @ 15:00 |
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All the Keith1993's are me asking for a confirmed release date:
Not the sort of thing I'd do on afterdawn obviously!
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26. June 2009 @ 15:19 |
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That reminds me of something - creaky once went on a locking spree in the PSP section and there was literally two full pages of locked threads and creaky as the last poster :D
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26. June 2009 @ 15:22 |
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Nice! I'm getting the feeling there are no mods on the codies forums as I am now 3 threads away from filling the first page with last reply by Keith1993
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26. June 2009 @ 15:30 |
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the Last 27 posts are by Keith1993 asking for a PC release date. I'm filled with a sense of achievement!
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