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9. May 2007 @ 16:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
if everyone uses different versions all comparisons are usless.

russ it sounds like the version of xi you downloaded was currupted durring the download.

the latest stable release worked fine on mine?
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marsey99,
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russ it sounds like the version of xi you downloaded was currupted durring the download.

This has been an ongoing problem for a couple of months now. I've downloaded it on all 4 computers in the house. It works on the 2 Dells (420WS and the laptop), but not on the 4000+ or my C2D. It doesn't find temperature sensors on either Dell (no environmental variables)!

On the other hand, Everest Ultimate Edition 2007 finds them all, and is very accurate and shows the same temps as the PC Health in the setup.

BTW! How do you like my new Avatar? Had to put the SpaceShip in the shop for it's light year overhaul! LOL!!

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9. May 2007 @ 18:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's a sweet logo, and is what prompted me to put an image in my signature, this reflects my current favourite PC company with its silent PC ethic - their website is http://www.stopthenoise.com - need I say more?



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The Nexus logo is very classy. Simple, yet ellegent!

I found the limit of mu CPU! 3.393GHz with a 377x9fsb=1508. Anything from 378MHz up just gets you a black screen and no Post! I've settled on 3.275 as my everyday running speed. It seems to run the best there and survives long OCCT and Prime95 runs. I've tried all different kinds of multipliers but 9x works the best on this MB. Maybe future bios revisions will eliminate the "Black Holes"! I have to say that I am very impressed with this motherboard although I'm a bit disappointed that I didn't get into the 4GHz club like I did with the D-940.

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So it looks as though SiSandra is basically a pile of crap that give a hit or miss chance of working then?

Time to remove it.


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10. May 2007 @ 06:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah I think so.
Lol@Russ, 4Ghz? Not forgetting this CPU started at barely more than half the clock speed of your last one, so to reach 80% of where you got to is quite some achievement. Amazing thing is, 4Ghz probably is possible with the E4300, you just need some insane cooling.



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I happen to really like Sandra. then again I've got sandra pro business. the free versions aren't that great compared to pro. kinda like comparing the free versions of everest to everest ultimate edition.

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that's quite a good analogy Mort81 :) it seems with MOST software programs, the "pro" versions offer a bit more for the users that choose to use them...ie. dvd-rb pro is another example where the cost justifies the program and feature set.

sandra works well for you and i (i wonder why? hehe), but seemingly she's a bi7ch for others; can't win em' all, oh well~ LOL :)


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how right you are doc. that's true with all software I suppose. more examples I personally have besides rebuilder pro and sandra pro are XP pro and dvdremake pro. I'm sure you have even more.

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Checked it out on my motherboard. Something I guess was a voltage regulator(capacitor?... dunno) was smoking. It was delivering the right voltage when I checked it with my probe, but it was smoking. The faulty part must be to blame for my bad voltage read in CPU-Z.

Thank god someone pointed it out before it lead to trouble. I'd much rather replace a $130 motherboard than a $250 CPU. Know what I mean? I'm ordering the same board. The GA-965P-DS3 is a kickin' piece of hardware and I won't let one bad board turn me off to the product.



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Holy crap, well spotted mate!



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CPU checks out all right in my friends build so I'm good on that.

Looks like my perfect product streak died at 30+ parts :)



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Sorry to hear that Estuansis, I would say unlucky, but then again you really weren't up until now!



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Originally posted by Estuansis:
... It was delivering the right voltage when I checked it with my probe, but it was smoking...
I was always told smoke is the most important part of any component. Once the smoke escapes, the part never seems to work right again. ;)


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Estuansis,
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Thank god someone pointed it out before it lead to trouble.

Better yet, thank God you posted the CPUZ. It wasn't on either of the benchmarks! I almost missed it!

Best Regards,
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AMD touts Barcelona, 45nm plans in the face of losses

By Jon Stokes | Published: May 04, 2007 - 12:21PM CT

The Inquirer has a report from an AMD shareholder meeting in which CEO Hector Ruiz reiterated that the company's long-known plans to move to 45nm in mid-2008 are still on track. Recall that AMD and IBM are fab partners at the 45nm node, so all of the recent hubbub around high-k dielectrics will benefit AMD directly. AMD's 65nm Dresden fab is currently transitioning to the new 45nm SOI process, and IBM's two fabs in NY will join it at that node. IBM and AMD will arrive at 45nm a few months behind Intel, with the latter company gearing up to bring its 45nm Penryn products to market later this year.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/200...-of-losses.html
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* AMD demos Barcelona, claims 42% floating-point edge vs. Xeon

Speaking of New York and fabs, AMD is wrapping up work on the initial design for its forthcoming Fab 4X in Malta, NY. The fab won't go online until sometime in 2009, and that's assuming that the company breaks ground on it relatively soon. And whether or not AMD starts building will probably depend on how their (currently troubled) financial outlook develops.

A process shrink isn't the only weapon that AMD will use in its fight to regain momentum and marketshare. Barcelona is still headed for a summer release, according to comments that AMD's Randy Allen made to InformationWeek. Allen also insisted that the ramp-up to quad core will happen at a similar pace to the ramp-up to dual core, which would put the company's shipments at a 50/50 dual-core/quad-core mix if they can pull it off. As tech pundits are fond of pointing out, Barcelona has to deliver the goods, and it's possible that it may. But it's going to face off against the 45nm Penryn from Intel, and judging by the preliminary performance numbers that Intel has released, Penryn is no slouch.

This summer's launch will also see the codenames Barcelona (server quad-core) and Agena (desktop quad-core) disappear in favor of a suite of new product name. A rumor cropped up last month on a Polish site, PClab.pl, that AMD would be ditching the venerable Athlon desktop brand name for a new Phenom (pronounced like "venom") mark. Dailytech just got more confirmation of this rumor, along with a product matrix for what AMD will be calling its "Stars" family of processors. There's no word yet on what, if anything, will replace the Opteron mark. For a listing of clockspeeds, socket types, TDPs, brand names, and other data, check out the slide at Dailytech.

After the new quad-core family is introduced, AMD will migrate it to the aforementioned 45nm process in mid-2008. The 45nm shrink will also see the introduction of an on-die DDR3 controller. Intel, on the other hand, will make the jump to DDR3 next week when they announce their new Bearlake chipset. Word is that the initial run of DDR3 won't be that impressive when put next to beefed-up DDR2 modules, so AMD's delay in moving to the new standard will be less significant than it may sound.



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Again, Intel is still ahead of the game. AMD going to 45...that's a funny thought. They still haven't caught up to the 65 or conroe and there is the Intel Quad core whoppin a-- on the Amd. If I were Amd investers, I would put my money on Intel.




Originally posted by crowy:
AMD touts Barcelona, 45nm plans in the face of losses

By Jon Stokes | Published: May 04, 2007 - 12:21PM CT

The Inquirer has a report from an AMD shareholder meeting in which CEO Hector Ruiz reiterated that the company's long-known plans to move to 45nm in mid-2008 are still on track. Recall that AMD and IBM are fab partners at the 45nm node, so all of the recent hubbub around high-k dielectrics will benefit AMD directly. AMD's 65nm Dresden fab is currently transitioning to the new 45nm SOI process, and IBM's two fabs in NY will join it at that node. IBM and AMD will arrive at 45nm a few months behind Intel, with the latter company gearing up to bring its 45nm Penryn products to market later this year.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/200...-of-losses.html
Related Stories

* AMD demos Barcelona, claims 42% floating-point edge vs. Xeon

Speaking of New York and fabs, AMD is wrapping up work on the initial design for its forthcoming Fab 4X in Malta, NY. The fab won't go online until sometime in 2009, and that's assuming that the company breaks ground on it relatively soon. And whether or not AMD starts building will probably depend on how their (currently troubled) financial outlook develops.

A process shrink isn't the only weapon that AMD will use in its fight to regain momentum and marketshare. Barcelona is still headed for a summer release, according to comments that AMD's Randy Allen made to InformationWeek. Allen also insisted that the ramp-up to quad core will happen at a similar pace to the ramp-up to dual core, which would put the company's shipments at a 50/50 dual-core/quad-core mix if they can pull it off. As tech pundits are fond of pointing out, Barcelona has to deliver the goods, and it's possible that it may. But it's going to face off against the 45nm Penryn from Intel, and judging by the preliminary performance numbers that Intel has released, Penryn is no slouch.

This summer's launch will also see the codenames Barcelona (server quad-core) and Agena (desktop quad-core) disappear in favor of a suite of new product name. A rumor cropped up last month on a Polish site, PClab.pl, that AMD would be ditching the venerable Athlon desktop brand name for a new Phenom (pronounced like "venom") mark. Dailytech just got more confirmation of this rumor, along with a product matrix for what AMD will be calling its "Stars" family of processors. There's no word yet on what, if anything, will replace the Opteron mark. For a listing of clockspeeds, socket types, TDPs, brand names, and other data, check out the slide at Dailytech.

After the new quad-core family is introduced, AMD will migrate it to the aforementioned 45nm process in mid-2008. The 45nm shrink will also see the introduction of an on-die DDR3 controller. Intel, on the other hand, will make the jump to DDR3 next week when they announce their new Bearlake chipset. Word is that the initial run of DDR3 won't be that impressive when put next to beefed-up DDR2 modules, so AMD's delay in moving to the new standard will be less significant than it may sound.


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Again, Intel is still ahead of the game. AMD going to 45...that's a funny thought. They still haven't caught up to the 65 or conroe and there is the Intel Quad core whoppin a-- on the Amd. If I were Amd investers, I would put my money on Intel.


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At the present time, you're right, it looks pretty bleak for AMD with the CPU department hemorrhaging money, and ATi in the red zone as well, with that situation likely to worsen with the abysmal performance of the new R600 designs.
The market winner at the quad core / 45nm level is yet to be seen, however, and if AMD can make a Pentium D->Core 2 Duo style comeback, then your money that you put down on Intel could prove a little unsafe. I wouldn't bet either way, even if I was a gambler, not yet anyway.
I would, however, place money down on nVidia being the DX10 champ, at least until the next generation (13,000 / 9,000)



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Thankyou. Maybe you can show me the way and explain yourself a lil better about you statment. Right now you can build killer rigs with AMD for a cheap price. I do.




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[quote]Again, Intel is still ahead of the game. AMD going to 45...that's a funny thought. They still haven't caught up to the 65 or conroe and there is the Intel Quad core whoppin a-- on the Amd. If I were Amd investers, I would put my money on Intel.


You bring so much insight to the table!!!![/quote]

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neverhap, Thankyou! Maybe you can show me the way and explain your statement better with facts. Right now you can build killer rigs with AMD.
I do!




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[quote]Again, Intel is still ahead of the game. AMD going to 45...that's a funny thought. They still haven't caught up to the 65 or conroe and there is the Intel Quad core whoppin a-- on the Amd. If I were Amd investers, I would put my money on Intel.


You bring so much insight to the table!!!![/quote]

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The GA-965P-DS3 is a kickin' piece of hardware and I won't let one bad board turn me off to the product.

I sure hope you have an SPDIF connection on your speakers. I connect mine with a cable. The GA-965P-DS3 v1.33 I have supports High Definition Audio. When you watch a DVD with PDVD-7 the sound is awsome! It's PL-II at it's very best. This is the greatest MB I ever owned! It's also the best computer I've ever built! Put an 8800 in here and it would be a hell of a gamer!

It looks good as well! When I took it out of the box, you could see the care and quality that went in to building it. Everything's straight with no lopsided components. Soldering is first rate. No memory problems or BSODs starting up. Once I realized the I had to do a fresh install of XP-Pro, it was easy! It's run everything I've thrown at it and is very fast! Best $99 I ever spent!

Happy Computering,
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To be fair, BSODs on bootup and floppy components tends to suggest damage or DOA these days, I've never heard it being a regular occurrence, perhaps I just bought the better product. I use S/PDIF on my sound card but unfortunately I can only use Pro-Logic 2 with the cheap SB External (i.e. Stereo) over it, and it doesn't seem to work properly, I much prefer the genuine 5.1 the analog connectors provide.



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sammorris,
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To be fair, BSODs on bootup and floppy components tends to suggest damage or DOA these days, I've never heard it being a regular occurrence, perhaps I just bought the better product.

Just go back and read some of the OC Forums, back when the Conroes first came out. There was a lot of that sort of thing as the bios manufacturers and motherboard designers struggled to make it all work.

Considering the problems I had with 2 P5N-E SLIs and all the BSODs I got and then go to a third MB that worked perfectly. I only had 1 BSOD after that and it was my fault for not having the memory in slots 2 and 4 (a problem that still needs fixing!). I also had one hang on the boot, restarting after a bios change, so I guess the third of the same model MB was the better product! LOL

In contrast, the GA-965P-DS3 was a walk in the park! I'm very glad I went that route with my E4300!

Happy Computering,
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Mmm, I'm thinking perhaps it would have been for me too. I run the memory in slots 2 & 4 for heat reasons, I had no idea about the stability issue.



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