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23. May 2007 @ 16:00 |
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Try running 3dmark06 and see how much you clean me out. I get 6755. GPU idles at around 55C and full load gets to about 75-80. However, it's fanless. If I ever get an 8800GTX or similar I'll be using the Hr-03 on that too, it's proven so effective.
CPU idles at 36-38C when fan is at full speed, 45C when running silent. At full speed, full load is around 46-48C, and silent it's around 55C.
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23. May 2007 @ 18:08 |
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Video card idles at 45*C and hits maybe 60-65*C under load. Not too bad for such a high power GPU :)
that's pretty hard to believe, which program are you using to monitor your GPU temps? i'm water cooling my 8800gtx's in SLI and my temps are only about 5C-7C degrees lower than yours at idle and hit similar temps on load. even on stock cooling before i got water blocks for my 8800gtx's, idle temp was EASILY 50C-55C and on warm days, 60C IDLE!
all my Nvidia 8800gtx's are EVGA brand as well, i have a few of the standard version as well as the superclocked and AC3 version, stock for the AC3 version idle's around your temps. if you have the standard eVGA 8800gtx and have not replaced the stock cooling on it but only replaced the thermal compound, the temps you claim are not possible on air.
im not trying to burst your bubble as the others have already done so with your previous benchmarks in sisandra, but since you are a gamer you should get accurate temps of your GPU if you plan on OC'in your video card :) Thermalright makes good aftermarket video card coolers or AIR, but your current temps are well below average especially if all you did was replace thermal compound w/ Artic Silver Ceramique. GPU load temps on a single 8800gtx on stock cooling can easily get in the 70C-75C degrees when playing intense game as well. i seriously doubt Arctic Silver alone would drop your temps 10C-15C on load, assuming you play very intense/agressive games that fully load your video card.
@sam, 3dmark06 for comparison sake for my C2D dual core system:
8800gtx in SLI, i lowered my E6600 cpu speed to 3.6ghz exactly just to run the memory linked 1:1 for fairness :)
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23. May 2007 @ 19:35 |
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Lol sixteen thousand that's nuts. I hope you make use of all that power!
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24. May 2007 @ 01:40 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Lol sixteen thousand that's nuts. I hope you make use of all that power!
:) any suggestions as to what i SHOULD do with the power available to me? perhaps if i were a bit younger i could really enjoy the games that people play and really enjoy out right now, but alas, i've passed my prime as far as gaming is concerned :P
i am looking forward to picking up a copy of Crysis, by Crytek, when it's released later this year (hopefully) as i've read so many good things about it and the game would provide me a means to really test how the 8800 series performs with the new Direct X10 and CryEngine2 (the screenshots i've seen in their preliminary stages already has me impressed) :)
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24. May 2007 @ 02:22 |
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Still waiting for AMD'S answer to Intels C2D.
I seriously considered a C2D but unfortunately DFI'S ATI RD600 board just isn't good enough.I'll go Intel or AMD but when it comes to mainboards................. DFI.Yes I'm an DFI fanboy!!!!
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24. May 2007 @ 09:26 |
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You mean you're holding off on getting a Core 2 because DFI don't make a board for it that's up to scratch? That's absurd!
If this ever comes out it may be worth looking into:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813136035
DFI do make 975X and 965P boards, but the reviews don't look too favourable!
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24. May 2007 @ 19:20 |
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Try running 3dmark06 and see how much you clean me out. I get 6755.
Got 11006.
You could be getting score higher than that methinks. I've seen 'em hit 7500 in some systems.
I think the 8800GTX wins though lol.
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that's pretty hard to believe, which program are you using to monitor your GPU temps?
I was using the nVidia temp monitor.
http://files.aoaforums.com/code.php?file=2325
And I wish I had seen the AC3 edition. I would gladly trade the one I have now for the better cooling. Though I have no plans to OC.
Once again software fails me and hardware gets me back in line. lol Used my LED probe and indeed I found it to hit 78*C when I ran 3DMark06.(now I'm disappointed)
I can't really explain the low idle temps. I can only guess I found a good cooling median and I can also thank my chilly basement room.
I only recently had a temp spike in 90*F mweather with the heat on and my room at 80*
Hopefully the Ceramique will cure soon and bring it down to 75*C. But I've seen them operate normally at 90*C so I guess I won't worry unless it spikes.
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25. May 2007 @ 01:10 |
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my 3Dmark06
10177
sm2 4800
sm3 4845
cpu 2161
just basic settings lol no overclocking
there may be something to overclocking after all
but i think i'll just keep updating as the new stuff comes out
I wonder what score docty would have got with just one 8800 so as to have something to compare the bonus of having two cards in sli
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Still playing Black Hawk Down why did I upgrade?
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25. May 2007 @ 01:48 |
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10,000-11,000 seems to be about the going rate for 8800GTX cards so when i saw 16,000 I was taken aback.
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25. May 2007 @ 01:56 |
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Sam,
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10,000-11,000 seems to be about the going rate for 8800GTX cards so when i saw 16,000 I was taken aback.
I think docTY is running 2 of them in SLI, not a single 8800GTX.
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25. May 2007 @ 01:57 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
You mean you're holding off on getting a Core 2 because DFI don't make a board for it that's up to scratch? That's absurd!
If this ever comes out it may be worth looking into:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813136035
DFI do make 975X and 965P boards, but the reviews don't look too favourable!
Sam,
thanks for that link.
I'll wait to see some reviews but you got me a bit interested again.
I've had so much fun with this lanparty board.
It's been solid since day 1
If a product gives me good service, I'll buy again.
I'd buy an ecs board tommorrow with the run I've had from my K7S5A.
Benq never again.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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crowy,
Sounds like me when it comes to Chevys. Most I've ever had were crap. I'm a Ford man all the way! They handle better and are good for 300,000 miles if you take care of them. I did a lot of driving in the boondocks of Texas at 100+MPH. The Chevys couldn't take it while the Fords just kept on running.
I had a "situation" one time where a cam lobe wore off a Malibu Classic Wagon (company Car) and Chevrolet didn't want to repair it under warranty because they said I abused it. I had to get pretty loud and say things like "it's funny I never had any problems with my Fords under the same conditions"! Loud enough that they fixed it just to get me out of the showroom! LOL!!!
Guess that makes me a Ford fanboy!
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25. May 2007 @ 03:05 |
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[quote=theonejrs]crowy,
Sounds like me when it comes to Chevys. Most I've ever had were crap. I'm a Ford man all the way! They handle better and are good for 300,000 miles if you take care of them. I did a lot of driving in the boondocks of Texas at 100+MPH. The Chevys couldn't take it while the Fords just kept on running.
I had a "situation" one time where a cam lobe wore off a Malibu Classic Wagon (company Car) and Chevrolet didn't want to repair it under warranty because they said I abused it. I had to get pretty loud and say things like "it's funny I never had any problems with my Fords under the same conditions"! Loud enough that they fixed it just to get me out of the showroom! LOL!!!
Russ,if your on a good thing stick to it!!!
Have a look Here:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/229/322699
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25. May 2007 @ 06:39 |
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crowy,
And I thought it was a Mercedes cause of the way it bends! It does look decidedly second handed though! Glad the Wife was OK!
Clock On,
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31. May 2007 @ 12:55 |
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Not doing too bad here. I got my idle to even out at 48*C on my video card now that I've had it running 24/7.
I love my fast computer! I refuse to use another a slow computer for as long as I live!
On another note. I had to do a bunch of parts replacements since my idiot friend didn't ask my advice. He overclocked his 2GHz Northwood to 3.2GHz and burnt it up along with his PSU, motherboard, and RAM lol!
I made a pretty penny off him :P
EDIT: He's one of those less informed(tech retarded) people who still looks at clock speeds for processor speed. He's still convinced that his 3.46GHz Celeron D is way faster than my Core 2 Duo. LMAO!!!
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31. May 2007 @ 14:16 |
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Estuansis,
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He's one of those less informed(tech retarded) people who still looks at clock speeds for processor speed. He's still convinced that his 3.46GHz Celeron D is way faster than my Core 2 Duo. LMAO!!!
He's right! His is so fast it went up in smoke! ROFLMAO
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31. May 2007 @ 17:59 |
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I told him a thousand times to ask me first before he did ANYTHING to his computer. Then I got dumb and told him how to access his BIOS and OC. I even warned him beforehand not to do it with his Pentium 4 because he had no real experience or any idea what he was actually changing.
He assumed that proper cooling was just cautionary rubbish and overheating happened only very rarely in worst case scenarios.
Same night he calls me up saying his computer stopped working. So I head over and pull it apart. ZIF socket, RAM slots, PSU. All literally MELTED! I couldn't even remove the CPU or RAM. The plastic parts welded right to them. RAM chips melted, PCBs absolutely WARPED.
I'm honestly surprised that it didn't shut down right away. But it's too late to find out what happened.
His parents forked up $600 for a new rig and offered me $150 to build it(hell yeah!) I ripped them off big time but he's gonna end up paying it off. That'll show him to ignore me!
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1. June 2007 @ 07:48 |
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You opportunistic so and so. That'll teach him though, and you probably charged no more than a proper establishment would, so are you technically ripping him off? Ask him, if his Celeron is so much faster, why did it cost so much less?
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1. June 2007 @ 07:52 |
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Estuansis,
what are you going to put in his new rig? C2D?
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Well, I don't know if I can build a decent Core 2 Duo on that budget.
Maybe an A64 4000+ with an X1950GT. A nice quick rig just inside the price range(full system for appx. $575 with tax.)
I know I'm looking forward to DDR3 RAM(keep saving up.) I heard there was a possibility of 2GHz on some of the faster stuff:)
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5. June 2007 @ 12:50 |
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lol I've just noticed Estuansis, do you run your 8800gtx with a 17" monitor? that's criminal!
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well lets see:
AMD X2 4000+ 2.1ghz $100.00
intel E4400 2.0ghz $140.00
2 x 512gb corsair XMS DDR 400C2 $121.00
2 x 512gb corsair XMS2 DDR2 800C4 $69.00
OR
2 x 1gb corsair XMS DDR 400C2 $156.00 after $40 mir
2 x 1gb corsair XMS2 DDR2 800C4 $97.00 after $40 mir
comparable prices for either on a mobo.
you'll need a new PSU either way.
you'll need 1 or 2 new hdd's either way.
you'll need a GPU either way.
you can use his old optical drives and case or if he wants a new case that cost will be there with either build.
if you plan to OC you'll need an aftermarket CPU HSF either way.
the way I see it since the DDR2 memory is cheaper now than the DDR memory it will cancel out the additional cost of the intel C2D CPU. we both know the Intel E4400 will outperform the AMD X2 4000+.
if you were planning on using DDR2 memory for the AMD build then it would only cost $40 more to go with the intel E4400 unless of course you're talking about an AMD 4000+ single core which is only about $10 cheaper. regardless I would convince his parents of the benefits to spending $40 or $50 more.
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Estuansis said:
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His parents forked up $600 for a new rig and offered me $150 to build it(hell yeah!) I ripped them off big time but he's gonna end up paying it off. That'll show him to ignore me!
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You opportunistic so and so. That'll teach him though, and you probably charged no more than a proper establishment would, so are you technically ripping him off?
You guys are selling yourselves real short! I make between $300 and $500 on every customer build I do, depending on what they want and what their needs are. I don't even advertise, just word of mouth and I'm up to about 6 a month now. They all know the systems I build are good and contain good components and everyone I build gets me more work in the future. I still do systems for free for friends and such but my customers are all happy and I've had several customers I've build more than 1 for. I get all their upgrade business as well. Raid1 mirror is a hot item right now. I make $50 to $75 on each one I do. No business should be without it
They have all learned the hard way that the cheap bargain computers they sell at Fry's, Wal Mart and $499 Dells aren't the answer to their needs. Making $150 on a build is not a lot of money for all the work involved!
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ok guys i have been out of the game for a bit with work and all. but i have been looking at parts again for my soon to be first build. ive noticed the C2D now has a E4300.. is this a smaller version of the E6000 series? just curious here
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5. June 2007 @ 14:08 |
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does anybody know where i can find a amd socket 939 retail processor?
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