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FESCSteve
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2. February 2005 @ 11:49 |
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I don't recall the version (i'm at work right now) - but upgraded to the latest just two days ago.
Some were having problems with the macrovision being fooled and not being able to copy tapes that didn't have macrovision, but I don't recall anyone with the same problem that you and I are having, either before or after the upgrade.
I sure would like to be able to also make copies of my home mini DV recordings to share with family (the main reason for getting the Ilo brand with it's firewire input) - does not look good right now...
Steve
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FESCSteve
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2. February 2005 @ 15:09 |
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I tried the same DVD - this time in my mom's player and it worked like a charm. Looks like my issue was just an incompatable dvd player (cyberhome).
Steve
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Video-Pro
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2. February 2005 @ 18:01 |
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Ok, well, I upgraded the firmware, but it still does the same thing. All I get is a directory structure :(
Anyone else have any ideas on this problem? I'm going to try a different brand of disks and see if that helps...
This really bites!!!
Thanks for your help!!
Video-Pro
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FESCSteve
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3. February 2005 @ 03:43 |
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I think it may just be that your DVD players are not compatable with +R media. I know my Cyberhome was not happy with it and gave the same results as yours, but the same DVD +R in another DVD player worked.
If you have access to yet another DVD player, give it a shot. It may take a while before all the DVD players out there are + and -R compatable. You may just be unlucky enough to own a couple that are not.
Good luck with it. Let us know what you find.
Steve
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Video-Pro
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3. February 2005 @ 15:57 |
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Ok, I used DVD Shrink on the DVD I burned on the ILO and then burned it back to a nother +R DVD and it played fine in everything?? What the heck is going on here? I really hope I don't have to do this everytime I want a video burned from the ILO!!!
Any more ideas??
Thanks
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Video-Pro
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4. February 2005 @ 09:15 |
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Maybe I should return the ILO unit and try another one??
Video-Pro
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Gtrman
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4. February 2005 @ 09:37 |
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Video-Pro,
The ILO disc is going to be DVD_VR format. That's why it has the VIDEO_RM folder along with the VIDEO_TS folder and the disc name is DVD_VR.
DVD Shrink or DVD Decrypter are only going to copy the VIDEO_TS folder to the computer. Once you burn it back to a blank DVD+R, you are creating a standard DVD+R disc, not DVD_VR.
It sounds like your players are capable of playing DVD+R media, just not in the DVD_VR format. This is why some recorders have what is called DVD-VIDEO compatability mode, which the ILO doesn't.
I have 2 HD04's and a Pioneer DVD player. My Pioneer has no problem playing both DVD+RW (unfinalized) and DVD+R (finalized) straight from the ILO.
In closing, I don't think it is the recorder but the players that are having a problem with the recorded media.
Guitarman
ILO DVDR04/HD04 Firmware Download Page
http://www.ss3f.com/ilo
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Video-Pro
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4. February 2005 @ 11:06 |
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Ok, thanks for that response gtrman. So from what you are telling me I need to find another DVD Recorder?? If so, can you recommend one? A friend of mine told me about this ILO, and he has a Lite-On which he says is the same unit and he doesn't have the problem I have....
He also has a Cyberhome 300 player and it plays the Lite-on recordings perfectly!!
Thanks for the help and I await your next response!!!
Video-Pro
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Video-Pro
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8. February 2005 @ 09:38 |
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Ok, I guess we will find out exactly where the problem lies. I just ordered a Liteon 5001 like my friend has and he said his copies from live video and plays back on his Cyberhome player without a problem
I'll post a report once I get it and try it out!!
Thanks for all your help here!!!
Video-Pro
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cjc60
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16. February 2005 @ 13:44 |
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I bought a liteon recorder and had problems with it, returned it and they had no more liteon (Xmas special) so I bought the ilo.... I have recorded about 7 DVD's with no problems, but now am starting to have problems... Same media, so I know that is not it.. I had my wife return it to wallys, and she just brought home the new one... I will try it with the firmware update.. Also, I noticed with both recorders that the DVDs' always have this white fine powder all over them after they are recorded.... What is up with that?
CJ
"Screw the DCMA!"
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crsunlimi
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26. February 2005 @ 06:26 |
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I seem to be having a problem with sound on this ILO machine. While recording I started hearing this humming sound. I thought maybe my speakers had a problem, but when I played the recording back it was worse on the recording. Now it sounds like a helecopter in the background of the sound.
Of course this is my first recording and I may not have configured it correctly, but I just thought I would see if anyone else was having a problem.
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gserve
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26. February 2005 @ 11:57 |
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If you are using the ilo tv tuner this is a known problem.Use your vcr tuner to record your tv programs.
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wburtnet
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2. March 2005 @ 07:52 |
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Okay, I am trying to decide if I want to buy an ilo DVD recorder (considering the DVDR04 or the DVDRH04.) I have read through this thread (lots of good info, y'all rock!) and tried to extract some understanding.
Let me 'splain.
[pause]
No, there is too much. Let me sum up.
The ilo DVDR04 seems to be a pretty good deal. It records on DVD+R/RW disks. It can playback both (+) and (-) disks.
Now, this is where things get, um, fuzzy. It apparently has issues that need updates from the webpage?
And, you can get hacked updates to help remove Macrovision issues?
And, the disks it writes (when finalized appropriately, if necessary) sometimes do not work in DVD+R/RW - compatible DVD players, because of the DVD_VR format it uses? (What exactly does that mean? Does that have to do with how the video/audio/other data is recorded on the disk?)
Whether I get the HDD version or not, I want to use it to record TV shows like a TiVo. I also want to take some of the older video tapes we have (especially the dozens of children's tapes we have) and copy them to DVD. I would submit a guess that most of the tapes we have do not have Macrovision (or any copy-protection), but I don't want to end up not able to record my tapes to DVD.
Can anybody here fill in the blanks?
Thanks!
---William Burtnett
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Video-Pro
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4. March 2005 @ 09:22 |
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Ok, here's what I have determined from experimenting with ILO's and Lite-on...
I originally bought an ILO DVDR04 ($153.00) and I loved it. Once I discovered however that it wouldn't play back the recordings in any of my existing DVD players, I figured it was defective. I returned it and bought another one (139.00), only to have the same results. I read in the forums here that the hacked firmware update might solve the problem, so I made the update.
It did add a great feature of LP mode and supposedly removed any Macrovision protection (I don't know for sure as I don't have anything with macrovision on it to test it), and also did the region adjustment.
Well, none of this helped. My friend who told me about this said his played fine, but he had a Lite-On 5001. So off I went in search of a 5001. I found one and tried it ($210.00), but still had the same problem. No playback, just a directory structure?? Dissapointing, but not to be stopped, I found a 5005 ($99.00) and tried that, but still no joy??
Ok, so I figured I had the best unit out of the three I had tried, and this was also the cheapest! Go figure??
Anyway, I found the firmware hack for the 5005, and now I have a DVD recorder that does both +/- R/RW and has an LP mode, no macrovision and is also region free....And also plays PAL to boot!!!
As far as making recordings that will play on other DVD players, I found that the Cyberhome I was testing on in my living room was screwed up, but the one in the bedroom played fine? If I want to I can rip the recording with DVDDecrypter and then use DVD shrink and I can play that in ANY player..
So I hope I helped you more than I may have confused you!!! I think that no matter which one you get, you can always, as a last resort, play the recordings on the recorder itself.
Have fun and good luck!
Video-Pro
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ande1352
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4. March 2005 @ 09:51 |
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i have heard of others having problems playing recordings made on the Ilo, on other dvd players, but i haven't yet had a single problem. I've played my dvds on my sony player, a mintek player, my portable kawasaki dvd player, all with no problems whatsoever. Go figure - i guess it just depends on what player you're playing it on, and what formats it supports.
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wburtnet
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7. March 2005 @ 11:26 |
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Thanks, Video-Pro and ande1352, for the responses. Video-Pro, did you really find a Lite-On for $99? I couldn't find one on the web for less than $199...
So, are ILO and Lite-On made by the same company? The members of this forum seem to use them interchangeably. Can I get an update for the ILO's that allows both +/- DVD recording, or is that only for the Lite-On?
It seems to me that, unless there are particular reasons not to, I will be getting the ILO DVD-recorder with the built-in HDD. I will mostly be burning DVD's for myself, and maybe my in-laws (if they can't read the DVD's, oh well, no harm, no foul.) You have to assume that, eventually, 99% of DVD players will be able to handle the formats that the DVD-recorders use.
Thanks again for your help!!
---William Burtnett
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Gtrman
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9. March 2005 @ 08:24 |
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wburtnet,
ILO recorders are made by LiteOn specifically for WalMart. The R04 is pretty much a LiteOn 5001 and the HD04 is what the unreleased LiteOn 5020 was suppose to be. The ILO recorders do not have the +/- ability but there are people trying to hack that into the firmware. The drives in the ILO are capable of +/- but the firmware is restricting it.
As far as playing ILO discs on other players, it is a crap shoot. My HD04 discs play on all my players with no problem but they will not play on some. It all depends on the players capabilities.
Good luck with your choice.
Guitarman
ILO DVDR04/HD04 Firmware Download Page
http://www.ss3f.com/ilo
ILO DVDRHD04
Pioneer DVR-420H-S
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ydkjman
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9. March 2005 @ 13:17 |
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Quote:
Gtrman---The ILO recorders do not have the +/- ability but there are people trying to hack that into the firmware. The drives in the ILO are capable of +/- but the firmware is restricting it.
This is awesome if this happens.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 9. March 2005 @ 13:18
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allawy
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11. March 2005 @ 12:56 |
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I PURCHASED THE ILO DVDR04 FROM WALMART. I STARTED RECORDING ON A MEMOREX DVD+R DISC AND EVERY THING WAS WORKING FINE UNTIL I EJECTED THE DISC. WHEN I PUT DISC BACK IN THE ILO IT WOULD NOT RECOGNIZE THE DISC. IT WOULD EITHER SAY NO DISC, FAIL OR INVALID DISC. PLEASE HELP.
ALLAWYIMIAN@YAHOO.COM
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gserve
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12. March 2005 @ 08:04 |
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First try a different brand of media and see if that works.
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wburtnet
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14. March 2005 @ 12:36 |
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Thanks, Guitarman (and everybody else!) for your help. One last question: With the DVDRHD04, if I record a show to the HD, but then later decide I want to keep that show for posterity, can I burn that onto a disk?
I want to get the HD04, but I have one problem: My wife. She is leary of spending that much money on a "toy" for me. I just need more info to convince her that everybody (including my in-laws - my wife's parents) wins...
---William Burtnett
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Gtrman
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15. March 2005 @ 08:55 |
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wburtnet,
Yes, you can copy the recording from the HDD to a DVD but the recording must fit. If you have recorded a 2hr show to the HDD in HQ mode, and then decide you want to keep it, you would have to split it into 2 recordings since a DVD will only hold 1hr in HQ mode.
If you have any inkling that you might want to save the recording, choose the record mode that will allow the full recording to fit on a disc.
Guitarman
ILO DVDR04/HD04 Firmware Download Page
http://www.ss3f.com/ilo
ILO DVDRHD04
Pioneer DVR-420H-S
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odd1
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15. March 2005 @ 15:01 |
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Gtrman,
i downloaded your hacked 1098 and loved it, except that my tv tuner audio lost about 3db which increased the background hum. i backed it down to the ilo 1097 and it's back to where it was before. i noticed there's a revision to teh 1098(.es5) dated yesterday on ilohelp's website. is there any way to get your advantages and not get the audio problem, and is the ilo update actually newer than yours?
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Gtrman
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15. March 2005 @ 19:46 |
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odd1,
They slipped that one by me!!! My site now has the new 3/14/05 1098 file, both hacked and normal. Try it and see if the audio stays the same.
Guitarman
ILO DVDR04/HD04 Firmware Download Page
http://www.ss3f.com/ilo
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odd1
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16. March 2005 @ 03:38 |
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thanks. i'll load it this evening and see what happens and let you know. btw - do you know if the GoVideo r6740 has a better tuner? i noticed it has the same gui.
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