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Slow read speed Sony DRU-510A
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DonMac
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23. September 2003 @ 05:58 |
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UpInHeaa - Since I find that I can already read a large single backup file at the same speed as the burn speed, do the changes you have made enable you to read back a full DVD of thousands of files at the same speed as the burn rate?
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DonMac
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23. September 2003 @ 06:08 |
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UpInHeaa - Sounded good, so being impatient, I tried what you suggested. I already had firmware 1.0c so I merely downloaded DSS, unzipped it, and clicked on the exe file. Switched to Overclock mode. Then I again tried copying my 2.25GB DVD drive (containing many files) to a hard drive folder and I got the same old copy time, i.e. about 14 minutes, or twice the burn time. That is, I see no improvement using DSS. Even read the DSS instructions! I have a new version of DLA which I disabled but DSS has no problem finding my 510A. So what am I doing wrong?
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biscuit
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23. September 2003 @ 11:14 |
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I cannot find a 105.c firmware upgrade, only a 1.0c, is that the lastest?
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UpInHeeaa
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23. September 2003 @ 11:34 |
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DonMac - I'm new to the whole DVD burn process so I don't have experience with large single files. I can tell you that when I first installed the Sony, I was ripping a DVD in 40 minutes. After I made my suggested changes, I'm ripping in 12 minutes (Lord of the Rings - Two Towers)
Also DonMac - Have you tried changing your settings within Device Manager. Try using both "PIO Only" and "DMA if Available" (changes require reboot).
Bisquit - The link to the firmware is listed in previous posts within this thread. Anyway here's the link again...
http://sony.storagesupport.com/dvdrw/dru510adwn.htm
The firmware upgrade is located at the very bottom of the page after you click the link.
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WDM2MPEG
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23. September 2003 @ 11:58 |
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The procedure to make a bootable CD has been mentioned here. I have a question:
Is it possible to make a bootable DVD that boots under DOS and reads 4 GB of data from the same DVD disc? There are three problems, as far as I see it:
- making a bootable DVD (I can make a bootable CD, yet I am not sure if the same procedure works with DVDs);
- after startup of your DOS, seeing the data contained on your DVD disc;
- correctly reading a large disk under DOS which generally does not welcome huge partitions.
Please share your experience and thoughts.
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DonMac
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23. September 2003 @ 12:43 |
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UpInHeeaa - I got educated some months with my 500AX that appeared to write only at 2X speed, so DMA settings, etc. are in my memory bank.
Since my last post I really read the DSS instructions, slow learner that I am, and concluded that DSS in OVERDRIVE simply forces the 510A to use the constant angular velocity or CAV operation, whereas it normally operates in the constant linear velocity mode.
I then did some DVD-to-hard-drive stop-watch copy timing tests on both my large single 4.0 GB file DVD and on my DVD that contains a 2.2 GB set of 281 files in 9 folders.
On the single large file, OVERDRIVE copying took 8:30 minutes whereas the AUTOMATIC copying required 13:00 minutes. So DSS really has an significant advantage for reading DVDs containing largely 1 large file.
On the other hand, the 2.2 GB set of files copy time was 16:24 minutes for the OVERDRIVE mode and 14:12 for the AUTOMATIC mode. So with DVDs containing many files, the overdrive read mode can actually be slower than the automatic mode!
Thanks for pointing out the use of DSS. It really does have an advantage is some cases.
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UpInHeeaa
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24. September 2003 @ 23:52 |
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Excellent information DonMac. Glad to see the DSS recommendation helps.
Cheers
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Smoosh
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12. October 2003 @ 12:53 |
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I've got the exact same 2x read speed problem with the DRU-500A. Since that drive is very similar I was wondering if anyone know's a solution that will work for it as well. I've got firmware 2.0g but the DSS program from the previously posted link says it will only work with the 510 series. :( any ideas?
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Pentsai
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13. October 2003 @ 19:15 |
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Sony firmware update install instructions...
In the updater instructions it says to uninstall and packet writing software, what are all of the packet writing software programs that I must consider? All I could find on my computer was DirectCD format utility, does that qualify? Thanks for your collective help....:~)
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goolie
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16. October 2003 @ 17:30 |
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Hey all, here's my 2c to this discussion.
First, Sony's released new firmware, 1.0d, which is available on their website:
http://sony.storagesupport.com/dvdrw/dru510adwn.htm
Second, I personally found that using "DMA when available" resulted in much faster read time as opposed to PIO; when making a backup of Bad Lieutenant, the former took about 15 minues to read, while the latter wanted almost 40 minutes.
This assumes you're using DSS, of course.
So there ya go!
Good luck and all,
--goolz
time flies like the wind; fruit flies like bananas
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UpInHeeaa
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19. October 2003 @ 18:47 |
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You're burning the "Bad Lieutenant" ..classic!!!
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3rdeye7
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23. October 2003 @ 09:00 |
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Hi,
I wanted to ask you some advice on the adjusting the read speeds on the Sony.
I've tried using my 16XDVD-ROM drive to read which is been unfortunatly very slow...i think around 2.4x's only.
So I tried using the Sony drive to read...
and it is just as slow...
I just recently purchased my computer last week with the Sony and the DVD-rom drives preinstalled, and i believe that the sony already has firmware version 1.0d.
I also downloaded the DSS selector from sony's website. But, when I try to install it it prompts me to disable any packet writing software? What does that mean?
I dont want to do anything rash and screw up my drives' settings, or my dvdxcopy platinum's setup.
Could you please advise?
Thanks, much appreciated.
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UpInHeeaa
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23. October 2003 @ 09:15 |
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Packet writing software would include software such as Nero, Roxio and Adaptec. It's a good idea to uninstall these software packages ANY time you install a new CD or DVD burner.
"Evybody got a game plan...til they get punched in the mouth" - Mike Tyson
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3rdeye7
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23. October 2003 @ 09:40 |
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do you know if i need to uninstall my DvdxCopy Platium as well to install the DSS? or is XCopy not considered packet writing software?
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UpInHeeaa
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23. October 2003 @ 09:47 |
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I don't think you do unless DVDXCopy also writes the DVD's. The only experience I have with DVDXCopy (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong) is that you can't make copies of your DVDXcopy copies. I've heard that the following procedures are decent...
Extract/Copy data from DVD with DVDDecrypter
Compress data with DVD2One
Write with Nero Express 6
"Evybody got a game plan...til they get punched in the mouth" - Mike Tyson
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UpInHeeaa
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23. October 2003 @ 09:49 |
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If you're not sure, and you have copies of the software you're uninstalling, I'd uninstall it.
"Evybody got a game plan...til they get punched in the mouth" - Mike Tyson
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Pentsai
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23. October 2003 @ 11:05 |
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Packet writing software....
Is packet writing software considered software that writes DvD's only? Does Easy CD creator 5 write packets? What are the Adaptic titles that I should be looking for? Just don't want to screw up my existing Dru 510a firmware by updating improperly...Thanks for your collective knowledge response....:~)
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DonMac
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23. October 2003 @ 12:03 |
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Packet writing software refers to those programs like DLA that allow you to treat your CD or DVD drive like a hard drive so that you can drag and drop files (You also have to format the drive for these programs). I installed DSS by simply disabling DLA (and the Microsoft equivalent program that comes with XP) rather than uninstalling DLA and DSS installed OK.
DSS allows you to copy a 4.7GB single file DVD backup to a hard drive in about 8 minutes but will not speed up copying many files back to the hard drive. I have not found DSS to help appreciably when using "DVD Shrink" (free software for copying DVD movies).
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Pentsai
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23. October 2003 @ 19:41 |
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Please define DLA and where and how it is disabled, and what and where is the equivalent program that comes with XP that is to be disabled as well...I also need to install the firmware update, so I would like to know exactly the proceedure to follow in laymans terms...Sorry to be such a neofite....
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WDM2MPEG
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24. October 2003 @ 06:08 |
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DLA is a packet writing program that comes with HP burners and maybe with some other burners too (I have seen it with DVD burner, I think it comes with CD burners as well). With this software you can drag and drop whatever you want to put on a disk. To disable this software, open My Computer, right click your burner drive, choose Properties, select the DLA tab and click Disable. If you have no DLA tab in Properties of your burner drive, it means the DLA program is not installed on your computer, so you do not have to bother disabling it :-)
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Pentsai
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24. October 2003 @ 09:58 |
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I have checked all 4 of my drives as you have discribed and found no "DLA" tabs in any of them...However, I did find a tab in my cc drive that had a DirectCD 5.0 options tab but when opened did not have a disable or any reference to "DLA" in it....
The only software that I have on my hdd is Nero 6, Roxio Easy CD creator 5 that I guess may be in question?...Would these two programs need to be uninstalled in order to apply the firmware update 1.od? Thank you again for your patience in answering my questions.....:~)
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Pentsai
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24. October 2003 @ 09:58 |
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I have checked all 4 of my drives as you have discribed and found no "DLA" tabs in any of them...However, I did find a tab in my cc drive that had a DirectCD 5.0 options tab but when opened did not have a disable or any reference to "DLA" in it....
The only software that I have on my hdd is Nero 6, Roxio Easy CD creator 5 that I guess may be in question?...Would these two programs need to be uninstalled in order to apply the firmware update 1.od? Thank you again for your patience in answering my questions.....:~)
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UpInHeeaa
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24. October 2003 @ 10:04 |
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Uninstall Roxio, Adaptec and Nero products. Make sure you have the Install Package to reinstall them and make sure you have a Serial number.
"Evybody got a game plan...til they get punched in the mouth" - Mike Tyson
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WDM2MPEG
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24. October 2003 @ 15:58 |
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Quote:
Pentsai:
where is the equivalent program that comes with XP that is to be disabled
In XP the tab is like I said earlier about DLA, just named "Recording" instead of "DLA", and it is present for all CD and DVD burning drives. Unlike DLA, it is not a separate program, it is a part of Windows XP. A checkbox that you enable/disable is entitled "Enable CD recording on this drive". Hope this info helps.
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UpInHeeaa
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24. October 2003 @ 18:47 |
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I didn't disable my built-in XP stuff and it works fine. Since you'll be installing your hardware to the Operating System, the Operating System will know what to do. This is not the case with Roxio Adaptec and Nero...they don't know that you just installed a new drive.
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