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Playing Blue-Ray on regular DVD Player
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bean55
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8. January 2008 @ 22:31 |
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bean55
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TBaGZ
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9. January 2008 @ 14:26 |
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Now tell me what you think of this! lol
My wife not knowing what the hell Blu Ray is rented a movie the other night and like I said not knowing what it is or the difference between it and a regular DVD grabbed the blu ray version of the movie. Brought it home and put it in our 6 year old zenith DVD player and watched her movie with NO problems except it skipped a couple times which is typical when we rent movies.
So whatcha think cause I don't get it!
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Amir89
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10. January 2008 @ 05:36 |
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Wtf??
Mate that's physically impossible. There's no way it could have played, a standard DVD player doesn't have the right diode to read the disc.
That would be like putting a PSP UMD into a DVD player and playing it. It just cannot happen.
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Speedy2
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10. January 2008 @ 14:10 |
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I think sometimes they include a regular DVD with a Blu-ray or HD movie sometimes so that is likely what was played. Either that or the wrong copy of the movie was put in a blu-ray case.
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TBaGZ
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10. January 2008 @ 16:18 |
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Well there was only one disc in the case so I dunno... I don't really know anything about the format other then it exists lol
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robtwilk
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10. January 2008 @ 17:04 |
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I'd love to see a video of that actually happening. Something to post on YouTube.
My understanding is that the blue-violet laser has a much shorter wavelength and reads a completely different format of disc. The protection layer is a different thickness (.1mm vs .6mm), the track pitch is different (0.32”m vs 0.74”m), the data is packed much closer together (which requires the blue laser and gives the format the higher storage capacity), the numerical aperature is different (.85 vs .60), and the video codecs are different (MPEG-4 vs MPEG-2).
I can't say it didn't happen, but I would be very surprised. Zenith may be on to something!!
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robtwilk
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10. January 2008 @ 17:12 |
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Originally posted by Speedy2:
I think sometimes they include a regular DVD with a Blu-ray or HD movie sometimes so that is likely what was played. Either that or the wrong copy of the movie was put in a blu-ray case.
Only HD-DVD Combo discs come with a HD and SD disk in the box, and they are two-sided discs. Standard on one side and HD on the other.
Blockbuster only rents Blu-Ray, so that can't be the issue. I'm not sure what other brick and mortar DVD stores are renting these days. Netflix does both formats.
Wrong disc in the case is plausible... They do look very similar at first glance.
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TBaGZ
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10. January 2008 @ 20:45 |
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She rented it out of one of them video rental machines. I wish I still had it here so I could look at the disc again.
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robtwilk
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10. January 2008 @ 21:26 |
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I'm shocked that the video machines would have Blu-Ray, as Blockbuster only rents them out at select stores. That some expensive inventory to maintain.
Maybe the machine is intended to rip off people - they pay for a Blu-Ray and get a standard DVD. It would play in your Blu-Ray player and a standard DVD player, but the picture would be standard. Just a stupid theory!?
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Seanux
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12. January 2008 @ 02:57 |
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playing back blu-ray from a computer to a tv is a bitch, esp if you are using DVI at one end. HDCP gets in the way, and most TV's aren't capable of displaying a native resolution from your PC properly through a digital signal. Very annoying, unless you are willing to shell out mega bucks for one of the larger LCD monitors (read monitor, NOT tv) but even then you'll pay for shit you probably aren't after, like 8 bits per channel etc...
glad to hear you got some encoding action going on, which BD Drive you using???? I've still been way too lazy to encode the one movie I ripped to a format that I can easily playback on my television, but then again I got the PS3 40 gig so I don't feel compelled to do anything yet, keep an eye out for some xiao syndicate rips on torrents. :P
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15. January 2008 @ 17:53 |
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now this is all way over my head lads so forgive my ignorance,
I remember that when mp3 files came out if you had an old cd player (even a cheap one) it would mp3 files no bother, but if you bought a new cd player it would have to say mp3 on the sticker or else it would not play.
like i say I dont know what I am talking about but it could be a similar situation.
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TBaGZ
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15. January 2008 @ 21:37 |
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So I got the scoop today.. The bastards are putting standard DVDs in Blu Ray cases because they are slimmer and fit the machine better! Bah!
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MultiCopr
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15. January 2008 @ 22:21 |
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Wouldn't that be considered false advertising? If you are paying a higher price also then I would raise some #$%^.
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Amir89
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16. January 2008 @ 10:40 |
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Honestly I think this entire story is a crock of you-know-what...
If people found out they were getting gypped out of $5-10 for what's supposed to be premium quality movies, Blockbuster could come under serious Legal fire..
Their not dumb enough to do something like this, especially something as low-brained as putting DVD's in Blu-Ray cases.
Unless your blind you can tell if it's a DVD or BD disc straight away just by looking at the labels.
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AfterDawn Addict
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16. January 2008 @ 12:09 |
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I'm gonna agree with Amir on this one. This sounds like a complete twisting of the truth at best; an utter fabrication otherwise.
That, or someone needs to learn to read.
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goodswipe
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16. January 2008 @ 13:39 |
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lmao, no way, I have to agree with you guys as well.
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robtwilk
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16. January 2008 @ 17:09 |
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Let me clarify -
The vending machine TBaGZ mentioned was not related to Blockbuster. I made a comment that I was surprised a vending machine vendor would stock Blu-Ray movies, since not even Blockbuster rents them at all of their stores. It is expensive inventory and risky since the format war is still in play.
But I did guess in one of my posts that it could be a DVD in a Blu-Ray box.
The real questions are:
1) does the consumer see the box before he pays for the DVD?
2) does the machine indicate the movie is Blu-Ray?
3) does the machine charge extra for Blu-Ray?
If not, then maybe no harm, no foul. Except that it could cause some confusion.
Boy has this thread gotten off topic!!
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MultiCopr
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16. January 2008 @ 18:58 |
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Ya its off topic but still interesting....lol My blockbuster and hollywood video do not rent out BR or HD dvd's. The online blockbuster and netflix have them though.
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TBaGZ
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17. January 2008 @ 17:11 |
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First of all if ya read all my posts I said "I know nothing about the format other then it exists" which means I wouldn't know if the discs look different or not.
The machine is in there loby at work so I have no idea if you get to see the case before hand or not or how much it cost or whatever. All I knew for fact is that she was watching a movie and i saw the case on the table that had the blu ray logo and was a thin case compared to a full size dvd case. So she asked what the deal was when she went in the other day and they stated that they were using the cases because they were smaller and could fit more inventory in the machine.
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robtwilk
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17. January 2008 @ 20:42 |
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Originally posted by MultiCopr:
Ya its off topic but still interesting....lol My blockbuster and hollywood video do not rent out BR or HD dvd's. The online blockbuster and netflix have them though.
Blockbuster has decided to only rent Blu-Ray (not HD-DVD). Online they rent SD and BD, some retail stores cary BD, but not many. Even the stores that rent Blu-Ray have very few copies of each movie.
Netflix rents all three DVD formats - DVD, Blu-Ray, HD-DVD.
I stopped renting at Hollywood Video long ago. They are the kings of late fees. Pure profit for them and very painful for me.
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Amir89
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18. January 2008 @ 02:29 |
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TBaGZ:
Well as long as they make that obvious to customers, that their actually DVD's then that would be alright, just sounds weird that they would do something like that, people, like yourself for example (no offense) could get confused.
Btw, it's not about knowing if they look different or not, it's not like you have to scan it under an Electron Microscope to see the difference, it will clearly say either DVD or Blu-Ray on it.
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robtwilk
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18. January 2008 @ 20:11 |
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Originally posted by Amir89:
TBaGZ:
Well as long as they make that obvious to customers, that their actually DVD's then that would be alright, just sounds weird that they would do something like that, people, like yourself for example (no offense) could get confused.
Btw, it's not about knowing if they look different or not, it's not like you have to scan it under an Electron Microscope to see the difference, it will clearly say either DVD or Blu-Ray on it.
I would say that anyone not familiar with Blu-Ray or HD-DVD would not have any clue why the disc said Blu-Ray on the label. That's like SuperBit DVDs that were out for a while - lot's of people would have no clue what that meant if they saw it on the label. Basically, at first glance, a DVD looks like a DVD - round, silver, hole in the middle, same size and thickness, and a label on the top.
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Amir89
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19. January 2008 @ 08:28 |
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Yeah and the words DVD Video or Blu-Ray printed on the label...
It's common sense.
If a disc didn't say DVD Video on it or on the cover then what are you going to assume it to be? A misprint? lol
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LRLinnell
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30. January 2008 @ 16:49 |
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I have a similar need to convert Blue Ray to DVD as follows:
I have a HD theater with a blue ray player and buy blue ray HD movies. My son wants to watch these same movies in the car where all we have is a DVD. I dont want to buy all the movies again is the "old" format so I would like to rip/burn my "theater" copies to standard DVD for playing in a portable player in the car.
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robtwilk
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30. January 2008 @ 20:26 |
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Yeah, I think that all HD or BD movies should have the hi-def on one side and standard-def on other side. Like the HD-DVD combo discs. I can't imagine why is costs so much more, but it does.
I have a Blu-Ray and HD player, but I have almost 15 DVD players that can't play these new movies. I'd like an SD version of all of these so they can be played in other rooms, on my PCs, and in my car.
No one is in this business to make the consumer happy - it is all about money. If we end up benefiting from something they do, it was just an added bonus for them.
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