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totomomo
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1. February 2008 @ 04:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
duds, every movie comes in both formats Blue-ray for HD and DVD-Video for SD and it doesn't have to be or it doesn't need to be on a single two sided disc who buys it? why are you asking for something that doesn't make any fu-bip-ing sense, SD on blue-ray ?????? come on !!!

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1. February 2008 @ 17:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by totomomo:
duds, every movie comes in both formats Blue-ray for HD and DVD-Video for SD and it doesn't have to be or it doesn't need to be on a single two sided disc who buys it? why are you asking for something that doesn't make any fu-bip-ing sense, SD on blue-ray ?????? come on !!!
totomomo - I am not sure I completely understand your comment. It is either gammar issues, or not a thorough knowledge of the formats themselves. Maybe I'm just too tired to get it.

HD-DVDs do come with HD on one side and SD on the other (if it is a combo disc). Currently Blu-Ray does not offer that feature.

If I buy a Blu-Ray (not Blue-Ray as you stated), I would like to play that movie in all of my DVD players. Use the Blu-Ray side in my BD player, and the SD side in my standard players.

The same for my HD-DVDs. I would like all the HD-DVDs to be combo discs (if they didn't cost more).

Maybe you're suggesting that we should buy a hi-def DVD and a standard DVD for each movie we want to watch in more than one room.
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1. February 2008 @ 20:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My Blockbuster has both HD and Blu-ray for rental. So it could actually be the case but as the poster stated he didn't rent from Blockbuster.
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2. February 2008 @ 01:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by LRLinnell:
I have a similar need to convert Blue Ray to DVD as follows:
I have a HD theater with a blue ray player and buy blue ray HD movies. My son wants to watch these same movies in the car where all we have is a DVD. I dont want to buy all the movies again is the "old" format so I would like to rip/burn my "theater" copies to standard DVD for playing in a portable player in the car.
It can be done...

I know how but first thing's first... Do you have a Blu-ray drive for your PC?

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PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
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2. February 2008 @ 09:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes, I have a blu-ray for my PC and one in the theater. Trying to make a SD-DVD for the car from a blu-ray version. The other option is I have to buy two versions of every movie- one for the theater and one for the car.

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4. February 2008 @ 00:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by LRLinnell:
Yes, I have a blu-ray for my PC and one in the theater. Trying to make a SD-DVD for the car from a blu-ray version. The other option is I have to buy two versions of every movie- one for the theater and one for the car.
Do you have any idea how much time are you gonna waste to downconvert a blu-ray movie in m2ts format to a standard DVD format? at least 3hrs, besides I havn't heared of any software that can deffeat the BD copy protection, why don't you just rent the DVD or buy it from ebay for arround $5, good luck anyway.

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4. February 2008 @ 02:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
AnyDVD HD can rip blu-ray/HD-DVD movies. As can various other tools... You just need to know where to find them. ;-)

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PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
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4. February 2008 @ 09:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Ryu77:
AnyDVD HD can rip blu-ray/HD-DVD movies. As can various other tools... You just need to know where to find them. ;-)
Try here:
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4. February 2008 @ 10:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by housonsne:
Originally posted by Ryu77:
AnyDVD HD can rip blu-ray/HD-DVD movies. As can various other tools... You just need to know where to find them. ;-)
Try here:
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Was that post for me or totomomo? My post meant you need to know where to look for the other applications. If you're going to post a link, why not link to AnyDVD-HD on the Slysoft website? They are the creators of this software. :-D

http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvdhd.html

By the way totomomo, ripping a blu-ray movie and converting it to DVD (mpeg2) in 3 hours is extremely quick. If you did do it in that time I would guess that the quality would be quite low. I would say at least around the 12 hour mark for high quality recompression.

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4. February 2008 @ 13:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by totomomo:
... besides I havn't heared of any software that can deffeat the BD copy protection
Gotta catch up on the news...like previously stated, AnyDVD HD will decrypt/rip HD_DVD/Blu-Ray. DVDFab HD Decrypter (free), will do that also... both programs have been able to do that for some time now.


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7. February 2008 @ 19:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by cyprusrom:
Originally posted by totomomo:
... besides I havn't heared of any software that can deffeat the BD copy protection
Gotta catch up on the news...like previously stated, AnyDVD HD will decrypt/rip HD_DVD/Blu-Ray. DVDFab HD Decrypter (free), will do that also... both programs have been able to do that for some time now.
I am not 100% sure, but AnyDVD HD has been able to rip HD-DVD and Blu-Ray for about 6 months, if not longer.
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7. February 2008 @ 20:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That is exactly what I was saying, both AnyDVD HD and DVDFab HD Decrypter have been cracking the HD-DVD and Blu-Ray encryption for quite some time now.


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7. February 2008 @ 20:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by cyprusrom:
That is exactly what I was saying, both AnyDVD HD and DVDFab HD Decrypter have been cracking the HD-DVD and Blu-Ray encryption for quite some time now.
Yes - I was confirming your statement. They have been doing it for some time now.
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10. March 2008 @ 20:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So if I download a ripped blu-ray film that is anywhere from 4.7Gb to 7.5Gb then if I burn it to a DL disk will it play on my stand-alone dvd player to my lcd tv?
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11. March 2008 @ 00:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by rastan:
So if I download a ripped blu-ray film that is anywhere from 4.7Gb to 7.5Gb then if I burn it to a DL disk will it play on my stand-alone dvd player to my lcd tv?
No, you still need a decoder chip capable of handling 1080p resolution and also the AVC, VC-1 video compression formats.

A stand alone DVD player is only capable of decoding up to 576p in mpeg2 format.

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PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346
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12. March 2008 @ 00:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Ryu77:
Originally posted by rastan:
So if I download a ripped blu-ray film that is anywhere from 4.7Gb to 7.5Gb then if I burn it to a DL disk will it play on my stand-alone dvd player to my lcd tv?
No, you still need a decoder chip capable of handling 1080p resolution and also the AVC, VC-1 video compression formats.

A stand alone DVD player is only capable of decoding up to 576p in mpeg2 format.
Can you explain more about the decoder chip, how to use it, and how to use/where to get the compression formats?
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12. March 2008 @ 00:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by morgandy:
...about the decoder chip, how to use it, and how to use/where to get the compression formats?
You need a player that can handle HD format(Blu-Ray/HD-DVD/PS3). You can't just buy a "chip" and somehow attach it to your regular player, MacGyver style. You can convert it to a regular DVD, but lose the HD quality.


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12. March 2008 @ 00:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by morgandy:
Can you explain more about the decoder chip, how to use it, and how to use/where to get the compression formats?
Yes, you can purchase these decoder chips, they all come with a free Blu-ray player! :-P

Please excuse my cheekiness. The only way you can play 1080p content is to buy either of the following... 1) HD-DVD stand alone player. 2) Blu-ray stand alone player. 3) Xbox 360. 4) PS3. 5) Home Theater PC (with Dual Core CPU as minimum).

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PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346
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12. March 2008 @ 15:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's like asking if you could convert your record player to play CD's - using a DVD spindle adapter, a red-laser phono cartridge, and a audio codec chip.

And for converting from HD to standard-def DVD, that's like taking a CD and making an album (adding hissing, clicks, and pops) so you could play it on your record player.

I think you get the idea. It's just more confusing because the discs are the same size and the drive looks like a DVD drive. Under the hood there are big differences.

They want your money - they want you to buy a HD player.

I say rent the standard dvd and watch the movie. When you can afford the HD player (and have an HDTV), start buying the movies.

If you want to dive in now, you could by an HD-DVD player for next to nothing and the movies are up to 75% off. The format is dead, but you could start watching HD movies sooner.
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12. March 2008 @ 22:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Has anybody tried the Topaz Enhance plugin for Adobe's After Effects?

http://www.topazlabs.com/topazlabs/03products/topaz_enhance/
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13. March 2008 @ 08:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I was wondering this also. I buy Blu movies now but dont want to have to buy a second copy for the DVD players in my home. I have a large family and allot of tvs so my children will watch movies on the regular DVD's and regular TV's. We have a PS3 and 1 HD tv were we do family night. But i would like to make a regular copys of my Blu movies onto a dvd so the kids as well as my wife can watch them on any tv . If there is a way to make a lower quality to go onto a DVD could some one give me the info thanks.
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13. March 2008 @ 16:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, same problem at my house. I think it would be great if all Blu-Ray DVDs were combo discs like some of the HD-DVDs were, or at least put a second DVD in the case that is standard definition.

Come on companies, give us little guys a break!

Only problem with that is they want you to buy a house-full of Blu-Ray players. What would be the incentive if they gave you a standard DVD with the Blu-Ray? It would take you a lot longer to convert over all of your old DVD players.
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31. March 2008 @ 23:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't know much about this, but I have a standalone upconverting dvd player that plays avi files. If I tried to play a downloaded blu-ray rip on this player, which is connected to my HDTV, would it work?
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31. March 2008 @ 23:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If the Blu-Ray rip is "virgin", it will not play!


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