Can I burn a Blu-Ray to a DVD?
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4. September 2008 @ 20:16 |
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Originally posted by jaymizzle: ok, i've read the thread a bunch of times and i have a couple questions still. i believe this thread is for posting questions, so here goes.
1. when u demux the desired streams, are u supposed to end up with 2 seperate files? one video, one audio? or are u supposed to just be taking out the other audio streams and keep it as one .m2ts file with the video and audio that u want?
2. step 3 in ryu77's post says remux the video only for compatibility. is this step supposed to take really long? like 25-30 hours in total? (i know it depends on ur computer specs and i g-uess the remuxing profile you have selected) i feel like i could be confused, but it seems like my computer takes about 8 hours to do job 1 in megui which is creating a .avs file.... i dont even know if thats right... and then in takes about 20 hrs to change my demuxed video file into mkv format. the resulting mkv files is about the same size and the demuxed video stream from the original blu ray disk b/c then i have to furthermore re encode the video with audio at a lower bitrate to make the file smaller.
i dont know if i'm making sense. please ask me to clarify if i'm not. in brief summary, i am just looking for a .mkv video file (with video and audio obviously, encoded with .h264 codec) that is much smaller, around 4-8 gigs. and the steps as i understand them are 1. rip video 2. demux selected stream of video and one desired audio 3. create .avs file and then change video to .mkv file 4. re encode new .mkv video file and audio into smaller .mkv file?
Depends which step 3 you are referring to...
This one... http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/646621/4010037
Or this one... http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/646621/3916260
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jaymizzle
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4. September 2008 @ 20:39 |
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i was referring to the second links' step 3
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dalibor18
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5. September 2008 @ 16:00 |
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Originally posted by tripplite: arg and i was about to log off two.....
to shrink use TsRemux to shrink your blu ray backups to a smaller size:)
to watch with AC3 track with the m2ts, this ...this is golden!
use mediacoder
http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/
you can use that to bring it to a MP3/AVI file for you to view!
to watch with a DTS track with the m2ts, i suggest loading the m2ts files into VirtualDubMod (note: set to Xvid-24bit-5Mb/s compression) which will convert them to AVI , this will leave you with about 6gbs of files (including DTS audio, so you'll have a combo of the DTS files and your newly encoded AVI files), you then watch them with just about any media player.... i hate to break it to you at the moment this is the only working method i have found for DTS audio, it leaves you with about 3 gigs of video and 2-3 gigs of audio....
Tried to do the latter but VirtualDubMod won't recognise .m2ts file.
You guys seriously need to write down step by step guide how to rip main movie from BluRay and
a) watch it on PowerDVD from HDD
b) record it on DVD and watch it on BluRay/DVD Player
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...as this is disturbingly confusing.
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philtrid
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20. September 2008 @ 19:55 |
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Ryu77, thank you kind sir for your wealth of information. I have been trawling the web for ages looking for the knowledge you have imparted in this thread!
Particularly, the info pertaining to DTS standards when authoring blu ray structure (don't crop!) and your meGUI blu ray profile are much appreciated.
If I had an MKV which contained a .264 video track that was 1920x800, what would be the best way to re-encode the track to a 1920x1080 resolution with black bars at the top and bottom?
Thanks again, you're a champ
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philtrid
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20. September 2008 @ 20:01 |
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21. September 2008 @ 08:48 |
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The easiest method to compress Blu-Ray to a type 5 or 9 is with Ripbot. It provides instructions to other applications such as TSmuxer. The settings are relatively easy in comparison to other methods and the outcome is usually quite good. I've been experimenting with different methods for some time and Ripbot has proven to work every time I've used it.
You can also calculate bitrate manually:
Quote: For example let's say you have a movie that has a run time of 2:10:14. That would be 7814 seconds. Now you have to determine the output size: a DVD+R (Dual Layer) holds 8,547,991,552 bytes or 68,383,932,416 bits. Divide that by the number of seconds and it means that, without any other considerations, you have a total of 8,751,463 bits per second (about 8751Kbs). If you assume a 6% overhead you will come to about 8400Kbs. Being the careful type I usually even take a little more off (because it takes lots of hours to encode, I don't want to oversize and have to do it twice). So let's round it down to 8200Kbs.
Now subtract the audio track. Let's say you are keeping one of the 640Kbs AC3 tracks... 8200 - 640 = 7560.
So you'd replace the 5240 with 7560 for that movie.
With Ripbot you don't need to calculate for bitrate although it wouldn't hurt since manual settings are usually the best.
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sasha717
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30. September 2008 @ 21:43 |
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Ryu77, you had said in an earlier reply to WEB11 that "If you would like to create a standard DVD from a Blu-ray disc there are better methods than the steps you listed. I will happily assist if needed, just let me know. :-)". I would like to know how to do this. I have AnyDVD HD and can rip Blu-ray discs, but have yet to figure out how to create a standard dvd that I can play in my other laptop that doesn't have a blu-ray disc reader in it. I currently use either DVD Decrypter or DVDFab to rip regular DVDs and Nero Recode to make my backups.
Thanks, sasha717
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17. October 2008 @ 14:03 |
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Hi first posting, so dont slaughter me on the replies.
My question is can you use anydvdhd to get the movie on your hdd, then xilisoft hd converter to convert(dl from torrent site?),then imgtoolburn to write?
I am not trying to be a software pimp, but it seems easier, or is there a way to output a higher resolution picture on a stand alone dvd player?
if there is a way than please excuse my ignorance, and correct me with guidence.
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MstrCheif
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17. October 2008 @ 18:07 |
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Sorry i didnt see the 2nd page of this thread. ignore the posting above.
It is better to say nothing, and have the world think you are a fool, than to open your mouth and prove it.
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Uroplatuz
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24. October 2008 @ 15:16 |
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I Followed this tutorial. When i demux my largest .m2ts file i get a .vc1 .ac3 and .sup file. I prefer MeGUI, but how do i convert the .vc1 file into .mkv?
Originally posted by Ryu77: Here are your best steps to recompress a Blu-ray disc to fit onto a DVD-9 (BD-9) or DVD-5 (BD-5)...
1) Load your main movie file into tsMuxeR. It will usually be the biggest file in this directory: BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts.
2) Demux the desired streams (advisable to select regular Dolby Digital (AC3) or DTS. Dolby TrueHD, DTS HD Master Audio/High Resolution Audio or PCM 5.1 (uncompressed audio) are going to inflate final file size too much.
3) Remux video only (no audio) into MKV or MP4 container (MeGUI, YAMB or MKVtoolnix are recommended). This step is not 100% necessary but I use it to increase compatibility with different encoding applications (or AVIsynth).
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ntblood
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9. November 2008 @ 18:29 |
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Hi. I bought AnyDVD HD and I read in this thread a few times where people say that you can rip a blu-ray disk with it. I don't understand that because the way I understand it AnyDVD HD just removes the copywrite protection so that another program can rip the disk. I don't understand what program to use to rip blu-ray onto my hard drive. blurayberry has disappeared from the internet, Starburn free version they tell me won't, Nero is supposed to be no good. So I'm at a loss.
Thank you,
Nathan
P.S. what I want to do is eventually burn to another blu-ray disk with my new LG drive.
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ntblood
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9. November 2008 @ 18:48 |
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<subscribing to thread>
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ntblood
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9. November 2008 @ 19:42 |
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the part about ripping with AnyDVD I got an answer to but I'm still figuring the rest out so any advice would be welcomed. Thank you,
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Right click the anydvd hd tray icon and select rip video to hdd.
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9. November 2008 @ 19:52 |
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ntblood
AnyDVD has its own ripper. Just go to the AnyDVD icon in your tray, right click, and choose "rip video to DVD Hard disk."
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ntblood
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9. November 2008 @ 20:15 |
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thank you.
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9. November 2008 @ 20:24 |
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Use eac3to (to rip/demux) with AnyDVD HD in the background. Eac3to is fantabulous, it;
-rips the main movie only (Use AnyDVD's ripper for the whole disc)
-fixes gaps/overlaps on seamless branching titles,
-converts audio if needed
-removes dialogue normalization on AC3 and TrueHD tracks,
-and even muxes the video stream to mkv for re-encoding.
-detects mpls information (audio/subtitle/chapters and other track information)
-plus a tonne of other great stuff.
It's a command based application or there are a couple of GUIs available too. I can work with the whole BD sructure as well directly from your PC's HDD.
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9. November 2008 @ 20:29 |
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ntblood
Take Odin's suggestion after you've got a couple re-encodes under your belts. In the long run it is always better to go for more options, and speaking of options. For those of you who are users of DVD Rebuilder, jdobbs is very close to releasing a Blu-Ray version to beta.
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ntblood
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9. November 2008 @ 21:42 |
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When I select the source file where do I look and which do I add? Do I just add one file and the whole DVD is loaded in or do I have to add each chapter or something?
Another person suggested I use tsmuxer after ripping with AnyDVD.
I'm curious about eac3to versus ripping with AnyDVD HD and then using tsmuxer?
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10. November 2008 @ 09:32 |
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In a Blu Ray movie you look for the single largest file in the folder containing the ripped movie. It will be quite large in size so you will have no problem finding it.
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ntblood
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10. November 2008 @ 17:31 |
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eac3to doesn't accept the m2ts file as valid. That is the main movie file.
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10. November 2008 @ 17:47 |
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ntblood
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10. November 2008 @ 18:33 |
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That sounds good Sophocles. When I download and try to run the RipBot264 application and it just shows a window with three items that say "no installed". I don't see the program itself (?). I was giving tsmuxer a try and am in that process now but I want to see which works best for me (simple is good). Funny that I look inside the Ripbot tools folder and I see tsmuxer as well as eac3to.
(not crucial now but is there a way to preserve the menu?)
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10. November 2008 @ 18:39 |
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ripbot
Is not a single application but a conglomerate of applications and Ripbot is the control center for them. You will need to download and update other applications that Ripbot will prod you for. Once that's done you will have to load the movie file (the large single file) and then wait for it to mux it. This really is the easiest method that I know of and with a little effort you will easily be able to figure it out.
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ntblood
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11. November 2008 @ 00:49 |
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Ok, I got RipBot up and running. I loaded in the main movie.
I selected output that said something about blu-ray and it looks like it's recoding it as an mp4. Then result was a 3.5GB mp4 file. I want to burn to a blu-ray disk so I am in the wrong thread here. Is this recoding like this with RipBot a necessary step? It seems like it's for burning to a DVD as it recodes a much smaller file.
Also, it's not a major priority for me but can the menu be saved? If that is fairly complicated than I'm good without it but if simple I'd keep it.
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11. November 2008 @ 08:19 |
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There are some settings that you need to take care of. Once you've muxed the disc and are ready to begin processing the file in the bottom be certain that you've checked Blu-Ray disc. Where it says mode choose 2 pass, and then to the bottom right choose lock size. This gives you the option to go for a single layer or dual layer disc. Look at the screen shots.
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