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dvdshrink compression issue
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9. October 2008 @ 12:35 |
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Try it again. It comes with Rebuilder so if you don't have it, it will install it.
99% of all problems are between the computer and the chair.
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emeralds
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9. October 2008 @ 12:36 |
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oh and it's 2.5.8 RC3
also a dvdrebuilder question: i downloaded menushrink as suggestion by one of those guides but am seeing DVDRB has a "steal space from the extras" option. since i want to keep audio/animated menus anyway this seems like the more ideal option than removing the above and keeping the quality of the actual extras. if i select say the 33% option will it automatically do this when i backup or was i supposed to do something to enable this before backing it up with dvdfab?
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9. October 2008 @ 12:38 |
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Only on the extras. Not on the menu.
99% of all problems are between the computer and the chair.
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emeralds
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9. October 2008 @ 14:27 |
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so i'm close to a couple hours in and only at about 65%. it's quite the process considering the dvdfab work took i believe around 45 minutes and i'm sure the imgburn should take another 20 min or so i'm assuming? all in all about 5 hours of work compared to the one hour to dvdshrink.
if the quality shows then i won't complain, but i do want to ask again about the dvd5 vs dvd9 rip. i did i believe the dvd9 (whichever takes longer/more space). is there much of a difference between the two and will choosing the smaller one cut the amount of time this takes a good amount? i don't have the most state of the art tv/dvd setup so i feel like i could be wasting time for something i can't appreciate.
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9. October 2008 @ 14:32 |
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One program it transcoding and the other is encoding.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You can do both and compare. The real test is when there is a good amount of compression.
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9. October 2008 @ 14:39 |
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Originally posted by emeralds:
so i'm close to a couple hours in and only at about 65%. it's quite the process considering the dvdfab work took i believe around 45 minutes and i'm sure the imgburn should take another 20 min or so i'm assuming? all in all about 5 hours of work compared to the one hour to dvdshrink.
what CPU do you have ?.
Rebuilder can take a helluva lot longer than Shrink/DVDFab but it's output is infinitely better than any other program out there.. Mine's a Quad Core Q6600, and I'd literally just posted similar info here -
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/708029/4310114
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/708029/4310139
Originally posted by emeralds:
i do want to ask again about the dvd5 vs dvd9 rip.
DVD-9 is for Dual Layer discs (which are unnecessary as DVD Rebuilder produces such amazing quality that Dual Layer discs just aren't needed). I use only DVD-5; i've never wanted or needed Dual Layer discs.
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emeralds
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9. October 2008 @ 16:00 |
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so is the fact that i ripped dvd9 to be used on a non-dual layer disc going to create a problem?
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9. October 2008 @ 16:07 |
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Not at all!
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emeralds
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9. October 2008 @ 16:13 |
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[16:07:23] PREPARE/ENCODE/REBUILD completed in 200 min.
ouch. so this should cut down some next time when i rip in dvd5?
and the dvdrebuilder guide doesn't offer instructions to imgburn after you're done with rb. can someone tell me what to do from here then?
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9. October 2008 @ 16:21 |
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You're doing it the correct way. Now just burn the new files.
I haven't used the free version in years. I'm not sure if you can burn directly with ImgBurn.
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emeralds
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9. October 2008 @ 16:26 |
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so dvdfab rips the actual dvd into a folder.
dvdrebuilder takes that folder and creates a new folder, which is the "destination" folder, the files that are going onto the burned disc.
is that correct? just trying to get a slightly better understanding. and what is the "temp" folder for?
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9. October 2008 @ 16:33 |
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You got it...
the temp folder is exactly that, a working folder used until Phase 3 ie Rebuild, when the output folder starts being built from the working folder..
I have my working folder and destination folders on different discs, saves a bit of time.
But the 200 mins isn't to do with DVD-5 or 9, it'll be to do with whatever CPU you have..
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emeralds
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9. October 2008 @ 19:26 |
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thank you thank you guys. twas a success. will definitely be dumping dvdshrink for this.
two last questions however.
in that dvdrb guide under the steal extras section: it says "*CAUTION!!! Don't use this option with "Episode" DVDs!!!"
i assume this is referring to tv dvds, which is mainly what i burn. i was just curious what the problem with this was.
also when burning with imgburn it popped out after reaching 100%, then a alert box came up prompting me to close to push the dvd back in and the it started over again. is there a way to bypass it popping out the first time if i can't be around the computer to push it back in?
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emeralds
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9. October 2008 @ 19:37 |
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one more: i'm attempting to burn another and i'm getting this after hitting backup on dvdrb:
advisory: the input directory is already small enough to fit on a dvd-5. no compression is necessary. continue anyway?
what do i to make it back up with no compression then?
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Vulcan94
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9. October 2008 @ 20:07 |
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Originally posted by emeralds:
thank you thank you guys. twas a success. will definitely be dumping dvdshrink for this.
two last questions however.
in that dvdrb guide under the steal extras section: it says "*CAUTION!!! Don't use this option with "Episode" DVDs!!!"
i assume this is referring to tv dvds, which is mainly what i burn. i was just curious what the problem with this was.
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What would happen is this. Let's say I'm going to make a back up of one of my X-Files DVDs. Now this DVD has 4 episodes on the disk. With the steal extras enabled DVD-RB would steal space from episodes 2,3, and 4 to be used for episode 1. With a Episode DVD, DVD-RB doesn't know that it is stealing from the other episodes. It thinks that it is stealing from the extras just like you wanted. So you would end up with a backup that the first episode looks great and the rest of the episodes suck.
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9. October 2008 @ 23:23 |
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Originally posted by emeralds:
one more: i'm attempting to burn another and i'm getting this after hitting backup on dvdrb:
advisory: the input directory is already small enough to fit on a dvd-5. no compression is necessary. continue anyway?
what do i to make it back up with no compression then?
What exactly do you mean "burn another"? Are you simply wanting multiple disks of the same video? Once you have run the initial rip through DVDRebuilder it is done, if you want more copies just open the file in ImgBurn and burn straight away. Otherwise the program is telling you that your video will fit on your disk without the use of rebuilder, whereas you can go straight to burning.
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emeralds
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9. October 2008 @ 23:27 |
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no i'm trying to burn a different dvd now. the first one didn't prompt up that box about the compression though. maybe because i ripped in dvd9 and this time in dvd5? i just want to make sure what it is exactly and make sure i run it uncompressed before continuing on. it just doesn't seem to give me the option.
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9. October 2008 @ 23:36 |
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How big is the file you are working with now?
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emeralds
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9. October 2008 @ 23:39 |
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4.15GB
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9. October 2008 @ 23:49 |
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emeralds
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10. October 2008 @ 00:48 |
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so after ripping the dvd with dvdfab, bypassing dvd-rb and going straight to imgburn when under a certain size still produces the same quality burned dvd? if that's correct, what's the size cutoff?
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10. October 2008 @ 01:32 |
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DVD Shrink/DVD Rebuilder are only used if compression is needed. Your video will fit onto a single SL disc so using either program would be an extra step that isn't needed. You are essentially making a 1:1 copy if you take the menus/special features out of the equation. Quality will not be sacrificed at all.
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emeralds
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10. October 2008 @ 01:44 |
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isn't dvdfab compressing the dvd though when dvd5 is used? for example on this particular one when i used it it said quality: 59%
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emeralds
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10. October 2008 @ 01:53 |
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also i've used the "remove pgc" option on both dvds i've ripped in dvdfab and the fbi warnings are still there on both. is this supposed to work?
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10. October 2008 @ 02:01 |
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for example on this particular one when i used it it said quality: 59%
It sounds like you are using the full version of DVDFab and not simply the DVDFab HD Decrypter (free ripper) portion of the program. At any rate, if your file is only 4.15 Gb then you won't need any further compensation to get the movie on to a disc.
A PGC is a program chain and doesn't have anything to do with the FBI warnings....main movie, trailers etc. are PGC's. Selecting to "remove PGC's" will removed the trailers if they fit the specs.
Originally posted by dvdfab:
You can copy specific title(s)/audio/subpictures and set defaults for playback, include or eliminate original menus, and specify title playback order to create a DVD with only the stuff you want! See the illustrations below. To make your backup bypass all the warnings and other startup material, click the "Jump to first menu when disc inserted"; to delete these items from your backup, click the "Remove Annoying PGCs" button (PathPlayer must be enabled and "Preserve Menus" must be checked). If the "No Menus" option is checked, your customized backup will start with the first title and the "Rewind When Done Playing" checkbox will become active. Use this to cause the selected title(s) to play in a continuous loop.
http://www.dvdfab.com/docs/index.php/Main/DVDToDVDCustomize
I would manually remove them with VobBlanker.
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